Indian Space Capabilities

[shchinese]

ah you again with

I am saying cooperation is always good, it becomes even better/more important when you couldn't build anything yourself.

Please just read some introduction of your Delhi class destroyer, they are being laughed in my country on a hourly basis. we had someone come up with a list of all equipments/weapons on board the Delhi class destroyers and we all surprised to see nothing is built by India.

Radar, Engine, Missiles, Sonar, Guns......blah blah

sorry, now I have to question how many devices/components used in India space programs are actually designed/made in India, not some 1960s era US/USSR left overs.

 

[nitesh]

again started

 

[shchinese]

again started

if you don't have anything to talk, why don't you just shut up? tell me what is the point of your post?

I am saying given that most gears on the Delhi class destroyers are made in Europe/US/Russia, I want to raise the question how many of those components/devices used in India's space program are actually India made. Do you understand this?

when the country couldn't build a ship on its own, how it is possible to build a spaceship and ensures it can operate safely?

this is my question, which is directly related to the topic of this thread, you can answer it, ignore it if you want, but please stop spamming here.

 

[nitesh]

please read post no. 452

 

[duhastmish]

shchinese there is no doubting that china heading toward great power in space capability. which is just great and reason being they are most hardworking race in the world right now. very similar to last century Japanese. but on the other hand we should also appreciate the capability of Indian space research with its limited resource and third world country background. Rome was not made in a day. but i think Chinese are way ahead. and i would liek to see them being the pioneer here for india and other such countries. kind of inspiration to go ahead. WHERE As for copycat thing : we need to grow some sensibility these childish comments only downgrade your judgment on this forum. developing something and copying something are two different subjects.

 

[shchinese]

please read post no. 452

there are at least two very basic but dead important components you just couldn't design and build by yourself.

one is the CCD chip used on that camera. another thing is the central processing unit (CPU) used for data processing and mission control.

for CCD chip, I am happy to tell you that we have a Nasdaq listed company building billions of them. For the CPU specially designed for space mission is a part of the godson project which we have been working on since 2000, normal processor 1G (PIV speed) for home and office use is available at $30, this is called mass production.

all made in india? major all made in india just other than those core components.

 

[shchinese]

shchinese there is no doubting that china heading toward great power in space capability. which is just great and reason being they are most hardworking race in the world right now. very similar to last century Japanese. but on the other hand we should also appreciate the capability of Indian space research with its limited resource and third world country background.

we started our space program when our engineers even couldn't had enough food, they designed our first satellite and rocket when feeling hungry everyday. as of today, China is still a developing country like india and our budget on space program was largely cut in the 1980s/1990s - we had our next generation rocket engines tested/certified for ages, but we just didn't go ahead for the new rocket - why? because at that time, there is no clear valuable aim for the space mission/capacity, putting those money onto infrastructure and eduction was one of the best decisions made by the communist party.

so you can happily withdraw the claim about how poor you country is, how difficult conditions your men are facing. thanks.

Rome was not made in a day. but i think Chinese are way ahead. and i would liek to see them being the pioneer here for india and other such countries. kind of inspiration to go ahead. WHERE As for copycat thing : we need to grow some sensibility these childish comments only downgrade your judgment on this forum. developing something and copying something are two different subjects.

then you are copying, we are developing.

The long march rockets series is one of the best developed rocket series with different capacities/engines. they were designed by a pure Chinese soul who contributed numerous theories to the space technologies.

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the most interesting thing here on this forum is indian members are talking about development and research when their country even couldn't file some WIPO patents. maybe their findings are just too advanced to be put into any WIPO category?

 

[shchinese]

What a cheap shot to arouse emotions from Indian members.
FYI many Indians eat beef. Even among Hindus...

good for you.

 

[duhastmish]

sir shchinese,

China can not afford a war with India now or in future. we will loose alot but china will loose much more than India will! so all these claim are meaning less to compare each other. where as these constant remark on poverty in india. these people sitting here on their computer are not those poor .... indians.

 

[indiatech]

wrong and untrue claims.

defence and some of the non defence chips are designed and then HW is made in Taiwan under secrecy and in india itself with companies like semiconductor complex ltd etc. SCL currently manufactures .8 micrometer. Soon it will manufacture upto .35 micrometer chips. India will be independent on foreign manufacturing to a great extent.

eg: drdo is almost not dependent slowly on foreigh processors for its missiles and microelectronics. It has the "Advanced Numerical analysis group", who designs processors and ASICs .

by the way, chinas chip industry is infant but growing at fast pace. they are way behind leaders yet like taiwan, japan, US, korea, but are growing by doing collaborations and bringing investments. Chinas chip industry is expected to surpass $28 Billion in 2011. Meanwhile the current net worth or sales of a single semiconductor giant in taiwan is way more than that ,United micro ($50 Billion), TSMC ($45+ billion) , HonHai precision ( $58 billion) etc etc.

So china has long way to even catch up with a single company in Taiwan, and india will not lag behind, considering that india has a huge ASIC design task force . HW manufacturing however isn't catching up much.

 

[indiatech]

there are at least two very basic but dead important components you just couldn't design and build by yourself.

one is the CCD chip used on that camera. another thing is the central processing unit (CPU) used for data processing and mission control.

for CCD chip, I am happy to tell you that we have a Nasdaq listed company building billions of them. For the CPU specially designed for space mission is a part of the godson project which we have been working on since 2000, normal processor 1G (PIV speed) for home and office use is available at $30, this is called mass production.

all made in india? major all made in india just other than those core components.

wrong and untrue claims.

defence and some of the non defence chips are designed and then HW is made in Taiwan under secrecy and in india itself with companies like semiconductor complex ltd etc. SCL currently manufactures .8 micrometer. Soon it will manufacture upto .35 micrometer chips. India will be independent on foreign manufacturing to a great extent.

eg: drdo is almost not dependent slowly on foreigh processors for its missiles and microelectronics. It has the "Advanced Numerical analysis group", who designs processors and ASICs .

by the way, chinas chip industry is infant but growing at fast pace. they are way behind leaders yet like taiwan, japan, US, korea, but are growing by doing collaborations and bringing investments. Chinas chip industry is expected to surpass $28 Billion in 2011. Meanwhile the current net worth or sales of a single semiconductor giant in taiwan is way more than that ,United micro ($50 Billion), TSMC ($45+ billion) , HonHai precision ( $58 billion) etc etc.

So china has long way to even catch up with a single company in Taiwan, and india will not lag behind, considering that india has a huge ASIC design task force . HW manufacturing however isn't catching up much.

 

[nitesh]

ISRO may allow school students to use its laboratories soon

Chennai: The Indian Space Research Organisation (ISRO) may soon allow school students to use its laboratories to carry out project work.

This was informed by Mayilsamy Annadurai, Project Director of Chandrayaan-I.

Annadurai said, "The growing interest among school children on space research after the success of Chandrayaan-I will give an impetus to space research in future."

"Now, around 200 graduate and postgraduate students are allowed to use ISRO lab to carry out their project work," added Annadurai.

Interacting with students Dr. Annadurai answered queries raised by students.

"As the success of Indian space research has come at a time of the slump in the IT industry, many bright young minds in the country will start to think of a career in space research," he added.

Dr. Annadurai also said that the country could achieve the long term goals of space research in a short span of time if more school students came forward to contribute to research in the field.

He mentioned the importance of tapping the potential of the moon in meeting the energy needs of the country.

ISRO may allow school students to use its laboratories soon, Tamil Nadu News - By Indiaedunews.net

 

[nitesh]

The Hindu : National : 70 scientists to review Chandrayaan-1 data

70 scientists to review Chandrayaan-1 data

Aloysius Xavier Lopez

Project Director says may lead to new, interesting findings

CHENNAI: Around 70 scientists including those from other countries will participate in the first meeting to review scientific findings from the data acquired from each instrument of the Chandrayaan-1 project at Bangalore on January 29.

Speaking to The Hindu on the sidelines of a brainstorming session with schoolchildren at Chennai on Monday, Project Director Mayilsamy Annadurai said, “We expect something new about the moon to emerge during the first meeting of scientists associated with all the 11 instruments of Chandrayaan-1.”

One of the instruments of Chandrayaan-1, MiniSAR, has the objective of detecting water ice in regions on the lunar surface not yet studied. “We see something unique and if during the meeting in Bangalore the scientific findings provide a breakthrough in detecting water ice in the moon, it will be a goldmine,” said Dr. Annadurai. Such a breakthrough will be a stepping stone to setting up a colony in the moon, he added.

Apart from scientists from the country, eminent space scientists participating in the first meeting will include Paul Spudis, Carle Pieters, Ben Bussey, Stas Barabash, Christian Erd and Manuel Grande.

SARA, Sub keV Atom Reflecting Analyser, is the first ever such instrument to decipher what the planetary body contains. The data from SARA, Dr. Annadurai said, may also lead to new and interesting findings on the moon.

The scientists participating in the deliberations in Bangalore on January 29 are from organisations such as NASA, Rutherford Appleton Laboratory, Brown University, Johns Hopkins University and Max Planck Institute.

At the meeting, the findings of each instrument will be discussed by the scientists concerned in order to get a comprehensive picture of the preliminary results of the project, said Dr. Annadurai.

 

[nitesh]

Space there? NASA scientists call up ISRO

Bangalore: Several NASA scientists — of Indian origin and foreigners alike — are knocking the door of Indian Space Research Organisation looking for opportunities to work in future Indian space missions following the success of Chandrayaan-1 launch, a senior ISRO official said on Saturday.

Project Director of Chandrayaan-1, India's first unmanned lunar mission, Mayilsamy Annadurai says he definitely sees a "small trend" of what he calls "reverse brain-drain".

"Some of my friends and juniors working there (NASA) are looking for opportunities for working in ISRO," Annadurai said.

He said at least half-a-dozen of them had approached him seeking openings in the Indian space agency and he knew that "a good number of foreigners" were also looking for such jobs.

Other senior ISRO officials sure would have got similar calls, he said. The question they are all asking is: "Is there any opportunity for working in future missions of ISRO".

India's Chandrayaan-1, launched on October 22, is carrying 11 payloads (scientific instruments) — two from NASA, three from European Space Agency, one from Bulgaria and five from India.

"Fifty per cent of the instruments have come from outside. It's symbolic. Instead of we going there, they have come along with us as co-passengers," Annadurai said.

ISRO Chairman G Madhavan Nair said "comments and observations with envy that have come from overseas after Chandrayaan-1's launch reaffirms ISRO's matured and advanced technologies."

After the launch, US Democratic Presidential nominee Barak Obama had said India's mission should be a wake-up call to America, and should remind his nation that it was getting complacent or sloppy about maintaining its position as the foremost nation in space exploration.

 

[nitesh]