Indian Small Arms Inventory Developed by DRDO ARDE & OFB

[Water Car Engineer]

I didn't ask your name. I asked you to list achievements of DRDO which is practically none.

DRDO is yet to successfully complete any of their projects, success and failure are a distant dream. Don't post pictures of catalogs like a dumb idiot. Post pictures of DRDO engines and systems in service.

It is DRDO which needs to ride the coat-tails of private sector to survive in he market. Dumbass like you should be slapped the shit out for posting fake stories.

You are a moron posting nonsense and expecting people to believe your lies. Tell your beloved DRDO to work on their ongoing projects and completing them first before taking on new ones. DRDO survives because of public funding. They have zero sales and would have been extinct withint their first decade.

And why are you hiding your shame behind private sector companies like TATA, Larsen and Toubro and other private firms? It just shows how INCOMPETENT DRDO is that private sectors have caught up so fast and already overtook a defunct and obsolete organisation that had been kept alive all these decades by public funds?

All the cute pictures you posted are developed or are being developed by PRIVATE SECTOR and not PSU and worthless POS like DRDO.

Its a shame that half-educated morons like you are dime a dozen in the Indian group.

"Private sector is not taking DRDO designs you loser"
"All the cute pictures you posted are developed or are being developed by PRIVATE SECTOR and not PSU and worthless POS like DRDO. "



You are one stupid idiot. They are all developed by DRDO labs, but instead of giving the rights to manufacture to OFB, BEL, etc. like it's usually done, they're giving it to the private sector. Most people on this forum know this, that's why they find you a moron.

You think systems like the Akash launcher is totally developed by TATA, right? But why does L&T produce them too? Because they both got the rights to manufacturing it from DRDO.

You're the only one here fighting about this, the private sector themselves wouldn't be on your side, because they blatantly want to produce DRDO created subsystems, and eventually whole systems.

Get used to the PPP trend, dumbass.

 

[Indian Patriot]

You are one stupid idiot. They are all developed by DRDO labs, but instead of giving the rights to manufacture to OFB, BEL, etc. like it's usually done, they're giving it to the private sector. Most people on this forum know this, that's why they find you a moron.

No, they are NOT designed by any DRDO labs. DRDO has not being able to design ANYTHING without ACTIVE foreign assistance.

Most Indians in this forum are idiots like you and that's why your opinion counts for nothing.

You think systems like the Akash launcher is totally developed by TATA, right? But why does L&T produce them too? Because they both got the rights to manufacturing it from DRDO.

Who said anything about Akash launcher? The missile itself is a copy of Russian design but DRDO bhakts like you would not know that.

You're the only one here fighting about this, the private sector themselves wouldn't be on your side, because they blatantly want to produce DRDO created subsystems, and eventually whole systems.

Private sector DOES NOT want to produce DRDO sh1t. Private sector wants to produce defense goods thats why Kalyani, TATA, Mahindra, L&T are wooing BAE, Denel etc. because DRDO is sh1t.

Get used to DRDO being kicked into obsolesce you dumbass.

 

[Water Car Engineer]

No, they are NOT designed by any DRDO labs. DRDO has not being able to design ANYTHING without ACTIVE foreign assistance.

Most Indians in this forum are idiots like you and that's why your opinion counts for nothing.



Who said anything about Akash launcher? The missile itself is a copy of Russian design but DRDO bhakts like you would not know that.



Private sector DOES NOT want to produce DRDO sh1t. Private sector wants to produce defense goods thats why Kalyani, TATA, Mahindra, L&T are wooing BAE, Denel etc. because DRDO is sh1t.

Get used to DRDO being kicked into obsolesce you dumbass.

You're an idiot. Agni launcher, AAD/parhaar, nirbhay, etc launchers are Russian too, right dumbass?

 

[cloud_digger]

Dude water car, let it go man, that guy is an obvious troll, u r wasting your breath trying to explain things to him that he clearly knows already but refuses to accept.
Whats that saying? You can drag a horse to the river, but you cannot make it drink.... Or something like that. Let it go. Let's concentrate on what DRDO is doing and how we think they can do better.
There will always be little runts like callofduty and what not that will get pulled in by his rhetoric, who says idiots dont exist in india?? We are afterall a billion strong. We can explain to all billion but all of them wont see the truth (Re: horse). Do our bit and move along.
Not saying DRDO is the best or it is without faults, its just not how patriot is portraying.

 

[Water Car Engineer]

Dude water car, let it go man, that guy is an obvious troll, u r wasting your breath trying to explain things to him that he clearly knows already but refuses to accept.
Whats that saying? You can drag a horse to the river, but you cannot make it drink.... Or something like that. Let it go. Let's concentrate on what DRDO is doing and how we think they can do better.
There will always be little runts like callofduty and what not that will get pulled in by his rhetoric, who says idiots dont exist in india?? We are afterall a billion strong. We can explain to all billion but all of them wont see the truth (Re: horse). Do our bit and move along.
Not saying DRDO is the best or it is without faults, its just not how patriot is portraying.

Yeah, you're right.

Ontopic.

The top scientist looking after the development of the Small Arms informed us that the MCIWS Assault Rifle will be ready for trials by December 2015 – January 2016 for trials. Beaming with confidence they boasted of the mastery achieved over the metallurgy that will produce the world’s one of the finest weapons

in its class. The body of the MCIWS under development is made up of a single block of very high grade aluminium alloy. The rivet-less body makes the weapon more resilient to combat stress. The modular design makes the weapon unique and extremely soldier friendly. A soldier will be able to field strip MCIWS without any tool by just removing a pin.

The deadly looking weapon likely to become the basic weapon of an Infantryman has a multi calibre option between 5.56 x 45 mm, 6.8 x 43 mm and 7.62 x 39 mm. It is capable of firing different calibre ammunition by changing barrel group, breech block and the magazine while retaining 92 per cent of commonality of parts. This affords the Army a choice between going in for a multi-calibre or a single calibre weapon as the case may be.

It is lightweight and modular in design having multiple picatinny rails for sighting system and foregrip. The already under production, indigenous 40 mm Under Barrel Grenade Launcher fitted with MCIWS makes it a very lethal combination. The air bursting grenade having a range of 500 m could work havoc on the enemy defiladed behind at those ranges.

The MCIWS is a highly impressive weapon system. On July 13, 2015, a composite team comprising Director General of Para Military and representatives of various forces under the Additional Home Secretary visited ARDE. This weapon had impressed the visiting team and they are now willing to induct MCIWS for use by the BSF, CRPF, ITBP, CISF and the SSB as soon as possible. The strength of Indian paramilitary forces outnumber that of the Indian Army. This move could boost the sagging morale of the scientists whose tremendous efforts have constantly been overlooked thus far. And also, the MCIWS will give a huge impetus to those fighting the Naxal insurgency and may well prove to be a game changer.

Another ARDE official, meanwhile, informed that apart from MCIWS Assault Rifle, other weapons and weapons system are also being worked on including a Joint Venture Protective Carbine (JVPC).The user trials of which were recently conducted involved the German MP-7 and Belgium P-90, our JVPC fared better than the other two. Commenting upon the irrationality overshadowing the logic during trials, he cited the unnecessary non-critical tests responsible for delayed induction. He informed us that as that as per the GSQR laid down, this carbine was required to pass through 99.7 per cent reliability test. All the weapons (JVPC) tested were proved above 99 per cent reliable. However, six out of the lot were above 99.5 per cent thus largely bracketing them between 99.4 to 99.5 per cent reliable. All necessary changes are being incorporated to pass through the stringency of the tests. He said 50 JVPC will be provided to the Army for fresh trials in January 2016.

Multi-Calibre Assault Rifle: Made in India vs Make in India » Indian Defence Review

 

[Abingdonboy]

Yeah, you're right.

Multi-Calibre Assault Rifle: Made in India vs Make in India » Indian Defence Review

Get it in service ASAP, the IA is still using the pre WW2 era Sten gun and they are arguing over a 0.2% differential from GSQRs- incredible!

 

[Water Car Engineer]

Get it in service ASAP, the IA is still using the pre WW2 era Sten gun and they are arguing over a 0.2% differential from GSQRs- incredible!

For real!! .2% difference and it fared well against outside competitors like the P90 and MP7?? Bro, that thing has been re trialed over, and over, and over again!!

 

[Argon Prime]

For real!! .2% difference and it fared well against outside competitors like the P90 and MP7?? Bro, that thing has been re trialed over, and over, and over again!!

If I recall correctly,the biggest problem of this MSMC aka JVPC,is its high recoil and resulting high muzzle rise during long bursts,which could not be rectified even after repeated attempts to do so by the designers in the ARDE.I guess Indian Army should adopt the Amogh Carbine to replace its WWII era Sterling SMGs.

Get it in service ASAP, the IA is still using the pre WW2 era Sten gun and they are arguing over a 0.2% differential from GSQRs- incredible!

That's IFA (Indian Foreign Army) for you!!

 

[Indian Patriot]

You're an idiot. Agni launcher, AAD/parhaar, nirbhay, etc launchers are Russian too, right dumbass?

Yes they are indeed Russian designs. China, north korea, India and indirectly pakistan have all build their missiles from Russian inspired designs. But why am I talking these things with you? An illiterate idiot like you would not be even able to tell the fine lines between American ICBMs and Russian ICBMs.

By the way does a moron like you know whether Indian ballistic missiles are liquid fueled or solid fueled? Does an illiterate like you even know what fuel means?

Dude water car, let it go man, that guy is an obvious troll, u r wasting your breath trying to explain things to him that he clearly knows already but refuses to accept.
Whats that saying? You can drag a horse to the river, but you cannot make it drink.... Or something like that. Let it go. Let's concentrate on what DRDO is doing and how we think they can do better.
There will always be little runts like callofduty and what not that will get pulled in by his rhetoric, who says idiots dont exist in india?? We are afterall a billion strong. We can explain to all billion but all of them wont see the truth (Re: horse). Do our bit and move along.
Not saying DRDO is the best or it is without faults, its just not how patriot is portraying.

Another DRDO bhakt. How many successful projects has DRDO completed so far?

Get it in service ASAP, the IA is still using the pre WW2 era Sten gun and they are arguing over a 0.2% differential from GSQRs- incredible!

The MCIWS does not exist other than mere prototypes. People have a hard time understanding that DRDO CANNOT make a good rifle because DRDO is devoid of good scientists and engineers. It is a government sector unit and the best brains in India either go abroad or join the private sector which is driven by meritocracy.

The IA is looking to import rifles because they know what DRDO makes is sh1t. Now some bhakts here who have never seen a real rifle in their life or think that water can power cars believe they know more about weapons than the army who use the said weapons and risk their lives.

The opinion of such dumb bhakts count for nothing. The army who is the end user has called DRDO sh1t and their products even bigger pieces of sh1t. INSAS failed, Arjun failed, Tejas failed, arty guns don't exist, IFV don't exist. For what are the obsolete DRDO retards taking public money for?

For real!! .2% difference and it fared well against outside competitors like the P90 and MP7?? Bro, that thing has been re trialed over, and over, and over again!!

Now the bhakt thinks MSMC is better than MP7 and P90. That is why no armed force outside of India is interested in these pieces of sh1t.

To make them feel better bhakts come up with lies that Oman imported INSAS rifles when there is not a single picture of Oman soldiers using INSAS. Bhakts are known for lying and their lack of integrity.

 

[Water Car Engineer]

Yes they are indeed Russian designs. China, north korea, India and indirectly pakistan have all build their missiles from Russian inspired designs. But why am I talking these things with you? An illiterate idiot like you would not be even able to tell the fine lines between American ICBMs and Russian ICBMs.

By the way does a moron like you know whether Indian ballistic missiles are liquid fueled or solid fueled? Does an illiterate like you even know what fuel means?

Oh wow, those designs are indirectly inspired from Russian missiles? Great dumbass, the US, Russian space and missile program came indirectly, and cases like with Von Braun or other imported Nazi scientist, directly from the Nazis. So did several other concepts from assault rifles to cruise missiles.

The Russians didnt flatout over see the Agni, etc. projects for India. They cant even help India with a cruise missile beyond 290km, let alone ballistic missiles.Nor did they give them designs of the launchers for DRDO's own missiles, which DRDO gave the transfer of tech to your favorite private sector to produce.

 

[Indian Patriot]

Oh wow, those designs are indirectly inspired from Russian missiles? Great dumbass, the US, Russian space and missile program came indirectly, and cases like with Von Braun, directly from the Nazis. So did several other concepts from assault rifles to cruise missiles.

And who says they didn't? US and USSR copied German designs and every country henceforth copied from either US or mostly from Russia. But an illiterate like you won't understand such simple things because you lack education.

You want to believe DRDO can make a ICBM but they cannot even copy a basic thing like AK-47? Oh wait, a dumb dumb like you does not even know that the INSAS was a pathetic attempt by DRDO to copy and reverse engineer the kalashnikov, did you? One look at the difference of designs between AK-47 and INSAS shows how stupid and retarded DRDO employees are.

The Russians didnt flatout over see the Agni, etc. projects for India. Nor did they give them design of the launchers for DRDO's own missiles, which DRDO gave the transfer of tech to the private sector to produce.

The Russians did not flat out oversee Chinese made copies either and neither did Germans flat out oversee US or USSR designs. But I keep forgetting that I am arguing with an illiterate idiot like you whose knowledge runs into negative integers. You do know what interger is right, and you know integer in mathematics is different from intezaar in Hindi language?

DRDO gave nothing to private sector. If DRDO was successful then there would have been no reason to involve private sector in the first place. During Nehruvian era defence was concentrated into public sector because the government did not trust the private entrepreneurs. But seeing the mess that PSUs has become post 1990 onwards there has been a slow but steady up scale of private sector kicking out DRDO.

It takes TATA less than a decade to team up with Denel to build their truck mounted 52 cal 155 mm howitzer. Where is DRDO made howitzer? DRDO cannot even design a 155 mm gun, why because their Russian fathers did not share the technology? Papa Russia did not help so INSAS became a junk.

What is the export of DRDO? A country as small as pakistan and whose industrial infrastructure is far weaker than India is exporting surveillance drones to USA. Are you even aware that pakistan has better military export figures than India? Just how educated are you, matric appeared?

Not a single country in a planet of 190+ countries is interested in DRDO made weapons which itself speaks a lot just how sh1tty DRDO made products are. But please be a bhakt, you bhakts provide a lot of entertainment.

 

[Water Car Engineer]

It takes TATA less than a decade to team up with Denel to build their truck mounted 52 cal 155 mm howitzer. Where is DRDO made howitzer? DRDO cannot even design a 155 mm gun, why because their Russian fathers did not share the technology? Papa Russia did not help so INSAS became a junk.

All they did was put Denel designed artillery piece/system onto their TATA truck. Ashok Leyland did the same with Nexter. They didnt design shit, they just want to produce outsourced designs to eventually bring out their own subsystems/systems later on.

You're out here thinking you're smart shit and think TATA, AL was the serious partner out of them and Denel and Nexter?

Dude, Denel, Nexter will offer that same package to any other vehicle company or grandma trying to get into the defence game, if the money is right.


And DRDO has a 155mm in development, and guess who wants to get a hold of it, dumbass? A whole lot of the private sector.

DRDO Holds Parleys with Tata, L&T, BEL for Howitzers

DRDO gave nothing to private sector. If DRDO was successful then there would have been no reason to involve private sector in the first place.

This is why you're an idiot, showed you several examples of them flatout taking DRDO designs.

Like I said, at this stage in their growth, they'll take from anywhere, DRDO, Denel, Supacat, BAE, etc, etc. To eventually build a base to bring out their own designs.

And these private firms dont have nothing against DRDO, unlike your dumbass, for them it's another source to get tech.

 

[Argon Prime]

All they did was put Denel designed artillery piece/system onto their TATA truck. Ashok Leyland did the same with Nexter. They didnt design shit, they just want to produce outsourced designs to eventually bring out their own subsystems/systems later on.

You're out here thinking you're smart shit and think TATA, AL was the serious partner out of them and Denel and Nexter?

Dude, Denel, Nexter will offer that same package to any other vehicle company or grandma trying to get into the defence game, if the money is right.


And DRDO has a 155mm in development, and guess who wants to get a hold of it, dumbass? A whole lot of the private sector.

DRDO Holds Parleys with Tata, L&T, BEL for Howitzers





This is why you're an idiot, showed you several examples of them flatout taking DRDO designs.

Like I said, at this stage in their growth, they'll take from anywhere, DRDO, Denel, Supacat, BAE, etc, etc. To eventually build a base to bring out their own designs.

And these private firms dont have nothing against DRDO, unlike your dumbass, for them it's another source to get tech.

You gotta admit it young man,the bugger is kinda cute,ain't it??

 

[Indian Patriot]

All they did was put Denel designed artillery piece/system onto their TATA truck. Ashok Leyland did the same with Nexter. They didnt design shit, they just want to produce outsourced designs to eventually bring out their own subsystems/systems later on.

Problem is DRDO CANNOT do something even as basic as that because DRDo cannot even design a truck. Do not talk like DRDO designs are world famous and envied by all, DRDO does not make the shitt1est designs in the world, not by a long margin. Do you know why? Because DRDO cannot even design in the first place. Even for buying a pencil they will need TOT.

You're out here thinking you're smart shit and think TATA, AL was the serious partner out of them and Denel and Nexter?

This is the kind of response you get from morons who are matric appeared.

Unlike DRDO which wasted 40 years and billions of dollars of public tax money TATA found a working solution. They knew they don't have the expertise yet to build a gun from scratch so they teamed up with a foreign partner and came up with a new contraption. Do you know the word contraption or do I need to explain this to a uneducated bhakt like you?

That is called professionalism, by TATA. Now what does your beloved DRDO do? They know they can't produce sh1t without medical assistance but they are too full of sh1t to admit that they are failure. So they will waste 40 years and billions of dollars and all they can emit is volumes of empty gas.

Dude, Denel, Nexter will offer that same package to any other vehicle company or grandma trying to get into the defence game, if the money is right.

Yes they will. But dumb dumbs like you don't know what business means and I don't have the patience to explain to you about business. You won't get it any way, you are too weak between your ears.

If TATA can approach Denel then WTF was stopping DRDO from approaching foreigners to make a howitzer?

And DRDO has a 155mm in development, and guess who wants to get a hold of it, dumbass? A whole lot of the private sector.

WITHOUT private sector assistance DRDO 155 mm gun will remain permanently "in development".

It takes DRDO 26 years to reverse engineer the Bofors, reverse engineer NOT ORIGINAL DESIGN, and bhakts like you are thumping the chest like DRDO has won the world. You bhakts are simply too pathetic to be laughed at.

This is why you're an idiot, showed you several examples of them flatout taking DRDO designs.

Like I said, at this stage in their growth, they'll take from anywhere, DRDO, Denel, Supacat, BAE, etc, etc. To eventually build a base to bring out their own designs.

And these private firms dont have nothing against DRDO, unlike your dumbass, for them it's another source to get tech.

There are NO DRDO designs.

Whatever DRDO has made is imported technology obtained by TOT.

Private sectors would use their money investing in BAE, Denel etc. instead of failures like DRDO. Mahindra tied up with freoign companies to make up MRAP while DRDO is still trying to find out what is the full form of MRAP.

 

[Argon Prime]

@Water Car Engineer ,my boy,here we go again!!Fartiot farts again.