Indian RAW's Kulbhushan S Jadhav sentenced to death for espionage & sabotage against Pakistan

[Raider 21]

It doesnt look like so since its so easy to obtain a confessional statement out of anybody in your custody. And the military Court decided only on confessional Statement. Write a confession and force the accused to sign it or tutor him to orate a story filled with imaginary facts.
And the best part is there is no Appeal to Supreme Court. Wow you are handing out death sentences and not giving opportunity to an innocent to prove his innocence. Jadhav has whole of India behind him and will support his family. But what about Pakistani people who have been given death sentences by Pakistani military Courts.

You're the expert...Cheers !!!

 

[Super Falcon]

He has done too much for his country. Thanks for your services to nation sir. You will be always remembered. May God give you strength.

Killing innocent civilians what makes Indian nation a service

It doesnt look like so since its so easy to obtain a confessional statement out of anybody in your custody. And the military Court decided only on confessional Statement. Write a confession and force the accused to sign it or tutor him to orate a story filled with imaginary facts.
And the best part is there is no Appeal to Supreme Court. Wow you are handing out death sentences and not giving opportunity to an innocent to prove his innocence. Jadhav has whole of India behind him and will support his family. But what about Pakistani people who have been given death sentences by Pakistani military Courts.

Spies don't have right to appeal topic it documents which found from him is enough evidance he was behind all attacks in Pakistan and he was acting service man of Indian Navy and raw spies don't have any right to appeal in courts they sent straight to hell crime against humanity conspiracy against a nation don't deserve a appeal

 

[Falcon26]

Yes they have....it is just not been documented most of the times.

Any examples? Also was Sheikh Shamim the first Indian to be hanged in Pakistan in 1999 tried under military courts or civilian? How about the previous spies?

 

[Pseudonym]

Murder it is. You cant treat spies with death sentences in courts which do not go by evidence. Anyways everyone has to go one day or the Other and I am sure the Govt. of India will take good care of his family.

So he's a spy now? not some indian businessman?

 

[Kedardel]

You're the expert...Cheers !!!

Deflecting genuine questions doesnt help. Right to appeal to Supreme Court must be given to somebody who has been handed out a death sentence. You may keep the proceedings in secrecy.
See you have the guy, you put accusations on him and you will hang him. India asked for counselor access you denied it. You didnt even informed India that you have put him on trial.
What can we do ? Other than may be kill a few people from your country including some Officer from Armed Forces but that doesnt bring him back.
But the question still remains if you dont allow fair trial to somebody who has been handed a death sentence including a right to appeal to SC then its humanity that is being murdered. The fate of the person whose case goes to the Military Court is pre decided. Its for Pakistanis to decide.

So he's a spy now? not some indian businessman?

Doesnt matter I am just accepting all your allegations and then debating on the method to hang him. officially India maintains the guy is innocent and asking for counselor access. We value our people.

 

[Pseudonym]

Doesnt matter I am just accepting all your allegations and then debating on the method to hang him. officially India maintains the guy is innocent and asking for counselor access. We value our people.

Doesn't matter? Okay, since you're accepting all of the allegations against your monkey, you should also accept that this is the fate a spy/terrorist involved in the killing of innocent civilians deserves.

 

[Kedardel]

Doesn't matter? Okay, since you're accepting all of the allegations against your monkey, you should also accept that this is the fate a spy/terrorist involved in the killing of innocent civilians deserves.

Fair enough but who will decide he was involved in killing of innocent civilians, your courts only, be it military court, isnt it?
Then what's the problem in sharing the evidence with court of repute like your SC. What's the problem with giving him consular access (or you believe our consular will snatch him and take him away to India)
Writing monkey could have been avoided but since you wrote it then it prima facie appears you are not open to any arguments and suggestions. Its ok.

 

[Hafiz-Zafar]

Great decision.

 

[Pseudonym]

Fair enough but who will decide he was involved in killing of innocent civilians, your courts only, be it military court, isnt it?
Then what's the problem in sharing the evidence with court of repute like your SC. What's the problem with giving him consular access (or you believe our consular will snatch him and take him away to India)
Writing monkey could have been avoided but since you wrote it then it prima facie appears you are not open to any arguments and suggestions. Its ok.

You send him over to balochistan using iranian visa on an indian passport with a fake name for espionage and terrorist activities and when he's caught, you still expect us to play by the rules?

 

[SirHatesALot]

Thank you Sir for your services to this country, i hope your sacrifice will inspire millions more.

 

[RIP Pak LAW]

Its amusing to see Indians here in PDF finally accepting that he was indeed a RAW agent, which they were in a denial before yesterday. Same was observed in their typical nefarious media. Infact their Govt is still maintaining a stance that he was just an ordinary businessman. Man, these people are so confused. There is even no cohesion in their official stance and while they keep firing statements in the air. But what I have perceived from their views is that,in their hearts they do acknowledge him as a raw agent which obviously to me a progress since they tend to ignore everything Pakistan says. They do now believe that India does interfere in Pakistan through militancy. India does back militants in Baluchistan and other parts of the country. India is involved in a proxy war against Pakistan via Afghanistan which they all used to shrug off.

 

[CriticalThinker02]

Its amusing to see Indians here in PDF finally accepting that, man was a RAW agent, which they were in a denial before yesterday. Same was observed in their typical nefarious media. Infact their Govt is still maintaining a stance that he was just an ordinary businessman. Man, these people are so confused. There is even no cohesion in their official stance and firing statements in the air. But what I have perceived from their views is that,in their hearts they do acknowledge him as a raw agent which obviously to me a progress since they tend to ignore everything Pakistan says. They do now believe that India does interfere in Pakistan through militancy. India does back militants in Baluchistan and other parts of the country. India is involved in a proxy war against Pakistan via Afghanistan which they all used to shrug off.

They don't shrug off they know it, they just ignore it or deny it because by nature baniyas are hypocritical, pathological liars.

 

[POPEYE-Sailor]

Fair enough but who will decide he was involved in killing of innocent civilians, your courts only, be it military court, isnt it?
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lol u want to say this ? kulbhushar came Pakistan for peace and he was trying to make peace between pak n india ? with out visa and try to convenience terrorist that war is bad like Gandhi g told Hitler ??

 

[litman]

https://www.dawn.com/news/1326291/india-will-go-out-of-its-way-to-save-jadhav-from-death-row-swaraj
pak is in great difficulty now. pakistani govt doesnt have the guts to face this threat. it will bring lot more shame to the country then raymond davis incident. we succumbed to US pressure that time but running away from the indian pressure will be lot more shameful. most likely now the govt will intervene and they will invent some new clause in the constitution . the terrorist will be released and we will hear some statements like "khairsigali k jazbay k tahat sadr e pakistan nay kalbhushan ki rihae ka hukamnama jari ker dia. hamari aman ki koshishon ko kamzori na samjha jay"
this is pakistan and we have a history of bowing to any power.

 

[IceCold]

https://www.dawn.com/news/1326291/india-will-go-out-of-its-way-to-save-jadhav-from-death-row-swaraj
pak is in great difficulty now. pakistani govt doesnt have the guts to face this threat. it will bring lot more shame to the country then raymond davis incident. we succumbed to US pressure that time but running away from the indian pressure will be lot more shameful. most likely now the govt will intervene and they will invent some new clause in the constitution . the terrorist will be released and we will hear some statements like "khairsigali k jazbay k tahat sadr e pakistan nay kalbhushan ki rihae ka hukamnama jari ker dia. hamari aman ki koshishon ko kamzori na samjha jay"
this is pakistan and we have a history of bowing to any power.

I too had similar apprehension but we also need to keep certain facts one of which is that now army chief has further endorsed this decision and has made headlines that enemies of Pakistan will know etc etc. Defense minister khawja Asif than had to come out and endorse the same. He even named India, a change in PML N policy so far which was not to name India under any circumstances. With Panama decision in the limbo, meaning it could go in any direction, pml will not embarrass the army over such critical matter. Doing so will mean an open confrontation. This could also mean dawn leaks to be surfaced again. Point being pml n is too deep in its own shit that they can hardly resist no matter how bad they want too.