Indian RAW kidnaps retired Pakistan Army officer from Nepal

[Navin A]

what was that again " we have your monkey " ?? hehehehe ...

It's not right labelling Prisoners as monkeys... let's call them for who they are, hostile agents & do not stoop their level.

 

[Falcon26]

Pakistani service members both active and inactive seem to be very active on social media so the chances of something like this happening was just a matter of time. Especially after RAW suffered that major humiliation with the arrested spy last year.

Anyways, India is on the front foot and has been huffing and puffing for a while now. It will keep pushing the envelop as much as it can get away with because the Pakistani military, government and media all seem to be out of synch and more entrapped with domestic dynamics.

Hope this poor guy returns to his family safe and sound. They did a good job breaking the story before the Bollywood scriptwriters had time to get all creative and loud.

 

[Levina]

To all the people who is scolding guy for putting his history on CV. Shoukd I show them linked in CV's of Ex CIA ex NSA agents CV's detailing what was their nature of job in their respective organizations ?

The guy was looking for a job in security related field. So he mentioned his relevant experiences just as hundreds of CIA or NSA agents who when switch to public sectors mention their IT related experiences when they were in NSA or CIA

From what I have observed- Senior officers start getting job offers even before they retire. They usually dont have to put their CV's with all the details in them on internet. But i would really like to see such CV's (as claimed by you).
Frankly him mentioning ISI itself looks very off.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

No surprises there, Pakistanis have set the standard by kidnapping an retired Indian mil officer for the sake of propaganda.

Your own news outlets have banged your fake *** claims.. and so has the Iranian visa on a fake ID, which itself was debunked by Indian police.

 

[NKVD]

Hope this poor guy returns to his family safe and sound. They did a good job breaking the story before the Bollywood scriptwriters had time to get all creative and loud.

Its just a Poor Job done By FO and ISI to Make this News public.If Indian agencies Made him public just like Kulbhushan Jhadav.Then he always remain in Media's eye His Movements will be traced But after Making This Public
It will be Anonymous That What actually happen to him in reality.You will Never trace him if he Abducted by RAW or any other agency

 

[asad71]

I thought RAW only kidnaps people in BD!

 

[Mrc]

Its just a Poor Job done By FO and ISI to Make this News public.If Indian agencies Made him public just like Kulbhushan Jhadav.Then he always remain in Media's eye His Movements will be traced But after Making This Public
It will be Anonymous That What actually happen to him in reality.You will Never trace him if he Abducted by RAW or any other agency

as much as a hair broken, imagine what will happen to kulbhushan jhadav......

 

[Falcon26]

Its just a Poor Job done By FO and ISI to Make this News public.If Indian agencies Made him public just like Kulbhushan Jhadav.Then he always remain in Media's eye His Movements will be traced But after Making This Public
It will be Anonymous That What actually happen to him in reality.You will Never trace him if he Abducted by RAW or any other agency

One thing about this forum I don't understand is why Indians like you with clear agenda to misinform and propagate Indian talking points are given free space to do their job.

It's one thing that has always amazed me since joining this forum.

 

[Srinivas]

Your own news outlets have banged your fake *** claims.. and so has the Iranian visa on a fake ID, which itself was debunked by Indian police.

Source?

I thought RAW only kidnaps people in BD!

RAW deals with extremists who are danger to India.

Seems you and that idune guy got bored because offlate your threads here are not getting enough response.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

The article is probably a translation from pakistani urdu press which is notorious for being fake. As for the story, the whole thing looks very suspect.

He was called for a interview?...and was given a nepali number in Oman? Why not wait to give it when he lands in Nepal?. Who meets interviewees during transition?

And, the story does not say if he attended the interview. What was the hiring company? Didn't the guy back check what the company was before he took off?.

Looks like a spy job gone wrong, else I don't see a reason for his disappearance.

What's the big hassle, even for some scholarships Pak students have to travel to Nepal for interviews.... i believe for German scholarships even I was offered to travel to Nepal ..

A retired Lt Col (specially if he's from a middle class background) there are little options...

A)Agriculture
B)Wait for some post at Fauji Foundation job (could take a lot of time)
C)Join some private firm or company

35-85K dollars is a good opportunity not many would leave.

I know people who retired and even went to Sri Lanka to work on some power plant.

Also an ISI operative would never do such a thing as mentioning his credentials on internet for jobs.

And blindly go for an interview in a third country.

Embassies are much better covers for Intel officers.

And I won't be surprised if Pak even has an ISI det at the Pak embassy in Delhi.

 

[NKVD]

as much as a hair broken, imagine what will happen to kulbhushan jhadav......

Any body Who sign For Intel Job Knows His Fate if he get caught.So Its Fundamentally clear phenomenon

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Source?



RAW deals with extremists who are danger to India.

Seems you and that idune guy got bored because offlate your threads here are not getting enough response.

HOW DID PAK ARREST JADHAV? THEY HEARD HIM SPEAK MARATHI

Kul Bhushan Jadhav was arrested by Pakistan's Intelligence Bureau as he had dropped his guard and started talking like a Marathi Manoos during his telephone conversations with his family, disclose senior officers from central intelligence. Pakistan has alleged that he is a R&AW (Research and Analysis Wing, India's external spy agency) agent. India has told Pakistan that although Jadhav could be an Indian, he had nothing do with the government.

Top intelligence officers have revealed that after 14 years of working in the region he had become a bit complacent. It is suspected that his phone was on surveillance by the Pakistani agencies and those who were monitoring his communications found something amiss and out of character as Jadhav is alleged to be operating under the cover of a Muslim businessman. Jadhav's habit of speaking to his family in Marathi and with extreme familiarity and comfort level in the language betrayed his cover his passport identifies him as Husain Mubarak Patel; but his mannerisms were nothing like that of a Muslim Patel.

Patel's passport was apparently issued from Thane Regional Passport Office (RPO) showing his birth place as Sangli, Maharashtra. "We have tried to establish the veracity of Patel's passport and found that it was not issued from our RPO," says Thane police commissioner, Param Bir Singh. "No police verification report was ever submitted by Thane police. In all probability it could be a bogus passport," he added. Jadhav, who last visited Mumbai some four months back, was under watch by the Pakistani agencies during his movements in Iranian cities in the course of his work, his close friends from Mumbai police told this newspaper.

Jadhav could have been honeytrapped before his arrest and then subjected to ruthless methods of interrogation and torture to extract information from him over a period of several weeks, they feel. The family had lost contact with Jadhav since February leading to the suspicion that he was in the custody of Pakistan for a while now. As a result, two other local contacts who were supposed to provide back-up assistance to Jadhav are also reportedly missing for over a month. The standard operating procedure is to always have some `contacts' on standby to be the contact persons in times of emergency or when there is total blackout of communications and inaccessibility of the person of interest.

Both the Indian contacts are inaccessible and have probably gone underground or are on the run unless they have already been arrested and thrown behind bars -disclosed officers from the Mumbai police. The fallout of the Jadhav's arrest is the frantic counterwinding operations launched by the Indian agencies in India as also in Pakistan. According to experts, the operations which are connected to an operative have to be immediately erased or folded up soon after he is outed so that there is always a plausible deniability.

Shirish Thorat, New York-based security expert and former Indian police officer said, "In the event of an asset getting arrested the handlers immediately secure other related assets like Agents in Places (AIP) or regroup their operations and fold up all the ongoing or future tasks. This discontinuation of operations is far monumental a disaster than the arrest of an operative.

" In Jadhav's case too, the agencies have launched an expeditious exercise to retrace his footsteps and shut down all of his possible ongoing operations. The first step is to disown Jadhav as their operative and also ask the family to disassociate with him. Jadhav's family wanted to approach the top echelons of the government, including Prime Minister Narendra Modi and BJP president Amit Shah, to exert pressure on Pakistan to release him. When asked whether the ministry of external affairs has officially informed the Mumbai police so that the Jadhav family can be intimated about his arrest in Pakistan, Deven Bharti, joint commissioner of police (law and order), replied in negative.
http://ahmedabadmirror.indiatimes.com/news/india//articleshow/51588961.cms?

https://www.google.com.pk/amp/www.i...g-marathi-over-call-interception-1063063/amp/

 

[Tolkien]

reminds me of spy swap between West Germany & USSR in 1976.

 

[patman]

the story is pathetically made up.

why would a recently retired ISI officer come to a nepal ,a country with open borders with india and has been the sopt for recent terror attacks. that too for employment , by contacting a Indian site that was. this is so bs it makes my head hurt that there are people dumb enough to believe this

 

[Navin A]

Any body Who sign For Intel Job Knows His Fate if he get caught.So Its Fundamentally clear phenomenon

Predicable trend............ Loading

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India interrogates and exposes the ISI and the pakistani establishment of the deeds.

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Pakistan rejects....

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information is provided to our allies and other respected agencies vindicating our stand.


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Silence
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request for access to interrogate him.
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India rejects.
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a Dossier is prepared and evidence is provided to the Pakistani's to validate.
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Pakistan rejects he is a Pakistani national, and evidence submitted is mere "literature"

and then rest is history.

back to square 1.