Indian RAW kidnaps retired Pakistan Army officer from Nepal

[NKVD]

plz remove kargil from the list. Indians might feel ashamed of RAW.

Do you forgotten Famous Recording of Musharraf
in Beijing
http://www.rediff.com/news/2007/jun/27raman.htm

 

[Qutb-ud-din Aybak]

India is losing. Time out. Pakistan stance is reported everywhere, because we have the proofs.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/04/09/retired-pakistan-army-officer-goes-missing-in-nepal.html

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

both articles are Looking conspiracy theories None of the Sources is mentioned Most of the article based On theories which provided in Pakistan media

No reputable media has reported this

your sources are Speculative With Know official resources to back it up India have thousand such New Blogs and Sites

Please post some Credible and Established media ,Such hindu,Indian express

Not my sources , rather "indian" sourcea reporting it... so dont blame us for your media exposing your own people.

 

[NKVD]

http://mumbaimirror.indiatimes.com/...im-speak-Marathi/amp_articleshow/51579077.cms
How did Pak arrest Jadhav? They heard him speak Marathi
By S Hussain Zaidi, Mumbai Mirror | Updated: Mar 28, 2016, 09.00 AM IST

Kul Bhushan Jadhav was arrested by Pakistan's Intelligence Bureau as he had dropped his guard and started talking like a Marathi Manoos during his telephone conversations with his family, disclose senior officers from central intelligence.

Pakistan has alleged that he is a R&AW (Research and Analysis Wing, India's external spy agency) agent. India has told Pakistan that although Jadhav could be an Indian, he had nothing do with the government.

Top intelligence officers have revealed that after 14 years of working in the region he had become a bit complacent. It is suspected that his phone was on surveillance by the Pakistani agencies and those who were monitoring his communications found something amiss and out of character as Jadhav is alleged to be operating under the cover of a Muslim businessman.

Jadhav's habit of speaking to his family in Marathi and with extreme familiarity and comfort level in the language betrayed his cover - his passport identifies him as Husain Mubarak Patel; but his mannerisms were nothing like that of a Muslim Patel.

Patel's passport was apparently issued from Thane Regional Passport Office (RPO) showing his birth place as Sangli, Maharashtra. "We have tried to establish the veracity of Patel's passport and found that it was not issued from our RPO," says Thane police commissioner, Param Bir Singh. "No police verification report was ever submitted by Thane police. In all probability it could be a bogus passport," he added.

Jadhav, who last visited Mumbai some four months back, was under watch by the Pakistani agencies during his movements in Iranian cities in the course of his work, his close friends from Mumbai police told this newspaper. Jadhav could have been honey-trapped before his arrest and then subjected to ruthless methods of interrogation and torture to extract information from him over a period of several weeks, they feel. The family had lost contact with Jadhav since February leading to the suspicion that he was in the custody of Pakistan for a while now.

As a result, two other local contacts who were supposed to provide back-up assistance to Jadhav are also reportedly missing for over a month. The standard operating procedure is to always have some 'contacts' on standby to be the contact persons in times of emergency or when there is total blackout of communications and inaccessibility of the person of interest. Both the Indian contacts are inaccessible and have probably gone underground or are on the run - unless they have already been arrested and thrown behind bars -- disclosed officers from the Mumbai police.

The fallout of the Jadhav's arrest is the frantic counterwinding operations launched by the Indian agencies in India as also in Pakistan. According to experts, the operations which are connected to an operative have to be immediately erased or folded up soon after he is outed so that there is always a plausible deniability.

Shirish Thorat, New York-based security expert and former Indian police officer said, "In the event of an asset getting arrested the handlers immediately secure other related assets like Agents in Places (AIP) or regroup their operations and fold up all the ongoing or future tasks. This discontinuation of operations is far monumental a disaster than the arrest of an operative." In Jadhav's case too, the agencies have launched an expeditious exercise to retrace his footsteps and shut down all of his possible ongoing operations. The first step is to disown Jadhav as their operative and also ask the family to disassociate with him. Jadhav's family wanted to approach the top echelons of the government, including Prime Minister Narendra Modi and BJP president Amit Shah, to exert pressure on Pakistan to release him.

When asked whether the ministry of external affairs has officially informed the Mumbai police so that the Jadhav family can be intimated about his arrest in Pakistan, Deven Bharti, joint commissioner of police (law and order), replied in negative.

Its same Copy Paste And the Link Is speculative

Please Post some credible Media Outlets Like hindu,Indian express

 

[Qutb-ud-din Aybak]

Do you forgotten Famous Recording of Musharraf
in Beijing
http://www.rediff.com/news/2007/jun/27raman.htm

it was false. Just few days ago indian media also released many recorded videos.
"bohut bomb phatey".
and the famous tracking of daud ibrahim by times of india. I love it.
really you guys are amazing.

 

[NKVD]

Not my sources , rather "indian" sourcea reporting it... so dont blame us for your media exposing your own people.

Media So you listed 1 Fake blog Made on some Radom News Site Sources

Most Of Sources are Not Listed In PTI in India or Even has credibility as reputed media out let

it was false. Just few days ago indian media also released many recorded videos.
"bohut bomb phatey".
and the famous tracking of daud ibrahim by times of india. I love it.
really you guys are amazing.

It Was released By Military during Kargil In press conference Exposing the role Pakistan military in Kaargil which military not accepted

http://web.archive.org/web/20080701220255/http://www.india-today.com/kargil/audio.html

 

[Tolkien]

we will exchange this guy for the guy whose worst fate will be written by us.
Spy for an ex spy is not balanced trade.

There is zero proof given by Pakistan that he is a spy.
Not a single country has supported Pakistan claim that Kulbhushan was a spy.

Even we can accuse this habin guy of being a spy.
Kulbhushan too was a retired naval officer.

 

[Srinivas]

They are indian media outlets , quoting indian officials,police,neighbors etc and claim he was a spy.

if you read the report, it was a speculation. There is no conclusive words in those reports.

Apart from them we have people like kashmir singh and others whom Pak released and when they landed in india they openly blamed indian govt for abandoning them and confessed of beijg spies.

Yes spies exist in every country. But the accusation on Kulbhushan as terrorist are not true nor there is conclusive evidence to back up the claim.
The whole story told about him being in Iran and operating networks in Pakistan is to damage the reputation of India and Iran.

There is also a report by German Ambassador, which says he was kidnapped by Taliban and then sold to ISI
https://www.thenews.com.pk/print/110031-German-diplomat-says-Yadav-was-caught-by-Taliban
This he told in Pakistan to media.

While here we have a retired lt col who was called for an interview in nepal, for a job, for which he was offered, had posted his cv online and since than the servers and other connections which were used to communicate with him have been offline and traced back to delhi.

There is definitely something fishy about the whole story, A retired colonel will not go to the interview that too near Indian border with out verifying the credentials of the company. As per the report a simple search would have given him the details.

Tell me about 1 good spy who posts his mil creditionals online for jobs after retirement ? And goes to another country after getting a job offer.

Now i personally dont know of he has been abducted by indian intel or not but i do know that the person is nothing but a not so smart retired officer looking for a job to support his family.

The only thing the poor fellow got pn retirment would have been an apartment (remaining dues to be cleared from his pension) ..

The retired generals in Pakistani military are assets and they do have some privileges and help from Pakistani establishment. This is not a new development, for long ISI and RAW playing these games. Only recently these abductions are made public for propaganda purpose.
I guess the resume, interview story and pics he posted are all a cover up to his actual job.

India has not confirmed the pakistani reports. But a guy who worked in psyops department(one of the crucial dept.) and in a pak mil is a valuable asset for Indian agencies as a bargaining chip.

there are two things

1) Either he is running spy modules close to Indian border and set up a cover story just in case he gets caught.
2) He is retired and searching for job but lured and caught. But this is highly unlikely since after kulbhusan episode pak intel guys are alerted I guess.

 

[NKVD]

http://mumbaimirror.indiatimes.com/...im-speak-Marathi/amp_articleshow/51579077.cms
How did Pak arrest Jadhav? They heard him speak Marathi
By S Hussain Zaidi, Mumbai Mirror | Updated: Mar 28, 2016, 09.00 AM IST

Kul Bhushan Jadhav was arrested by Pakistan's Intelligence Bureau as he had dropped his guard and started talking like a Marathi Manoos during his telephone conversations with his family, disclose senior officers from central intelligence.

Pakistan has alleged that he is a R&AW (Research and Analysis Wing, India's external spy agency) agent. India has told Pakistan that although Jadhav could be an Indian, he had nothing do with the government.

Top intelligence officers have revealed that after 14 years of working in the region he had become a bit complacent. It is suspected that his phone was on surveillance by the Pakistani agencies and those who were monitoring his communications found something amiss and out of character as Jadhav is alleged to be operating under the cover of a Muslim businessman.

Jadhav's habit of speaking to his family in Marathi and with extreme familiarity and comfort level in the language betrayed his cover - his passport identifies him as Husain Mubarak Patel; but his mannerisms were nothing like that of a Muslim Patel.

Patel's passport was apparently issued from Thane Regional Passport Office (RPO) showing his birth place as Sangli, Maharashtra. "We have tried to establish the veracity of Patel's passport and found that it was not issued from our RPO," says Thane police commissioner, Param Bir Singh. "No police verification report was ever submitted by Thane police. In all probability it could be a bogus passport," he added.

Jadhav, who last visited Mumbai some four months back, was under watch by the Pakistani agencies during his movements in Iranian cities in the course of his work, his close friends from Mumbai police told this newspaper. Jadhav could have been honey-trapped before his arrest and then subjected to ruthless methods of interrogation and torture to extract information from him over a period of several weeks, they feel. The family had lost contact with Jadhav since February leading to the suspicion that he was in the custody of Pakistan for a while now.

As a result, two other local contacts who were supposed to provide back-up assistance to Jadhav are also reportedly missing for over a month. The standard operating procedure is to always have some 'contacts' on standby to be the contact persons in times of emergency or when there is total blackout of communications and inaccessibility of the person of interest. Both the Indian contacts are inaccessible and have probably gone underground or are on the run - unless they have already been arrested and thrown behind bars -- disclosed officers from the Mumbai police.

The fallout of the Jadhav's arrest is the frantic counterwinding operations launched by the Indian agencies in India as also in Pakistan. According to experts, the operations which are connected to an operative have to be immediately erased or folded up soon after he is outed so that there is always a plausible deniability.

Shirish Thorat, New York-based security expert and former Indian police officer said, "In the event of an asset getting arrested the handlers immediately secure other related assets like Agents in Places (AIP) or regroup their operations and fold up all the ongoing or future tasks. This discontinuation of operations is far monumental a disaster than the arrest of an operative." In Jadhav's case too, the agencies have launched an expeditious exercise to retrace his footsteps and shut down all of his possible ongoing operations. The first step is to disown Jadhav as their operative and also ask the family to disassociate with him. Jadhav's family wanted to approach the top echelons of the government, including Prime Minister Narendra Modi and BJP president Amit Shah, to exert pressure on Pakistan to release him.

When asked whether the ministry of external affairs has officially informed the Mumbai police so that the Jadhav family can be intimated about his arrest in Pakistan, Deven Bharti, joint commissioner of police (law and order), replied in negative.

This what your own media say
Insufficient evidence delays Jadhav dossier: Aziz - Newspaper ... - Dawn


Mystery as retired army officer goes 'missing' in Nepal

BAQIR SAJJAD SYEDUPDATED ABOUT 6 HOURS AGO

Retired Lt Col Mohammad Habib. ─Photo courtesy of author
ISLAMABAD: A retired Pakistan Army officer has mysteriously gone missing while visiting Nepal for a job interview.

The officer, identified as retired Lt Col Mohammad Habib, has been untraceable since Thursday (April 6) from Lumbini, a Nepalese town near the Indian border and a Buddhist pilgrimage site, soon after his arrival there. He last contacted his family on Thursday afternoon and since then his phone numbers have not been reachable.

Col Habib’s family reported his disappearance to the Foreign Office after not having been able to reach him. He is feared to have been abducted, a source said.

“We wrote to the Nepalese foreign ministry about the missing Pakistani national on Friday, but we have yet to hear back from them,” Pakistani charge d’affaires Javed Imrani told Dawn over the phone from Kathmandu on Saturday.

Col Habib last contacted his family from Lumbini, near Indian border
The story about the disappearance of the former military officer first surfaced in WhatsApp groups of retired military officers and was subsequently picked up by the media.

The colonel, who reportedly retired in October 2014 and belonged to artillery, was currently employed with a private firm in Pakistan and had posted his CV online in search of employment.

According to the publicly available account of the events preceding his disappearance, somebody by the name of Mark Thompson had contacted him both via email and telephone for a job interview in Nepal for which he [Col Habib] was also provided an air ticket.

Col Habib departed from Lahore on Wednesday, reaching Kathmandu on Thursday from where he immediately flew to Lumbini. In Kathmandu, the information coming from retired army officers groups and verified by military sources reveals, he was provided a Nepalese cellphone SIM card by one Javed Ansari, who received him there.

The last message that he sent from Lumbini said that he had reached his destination.

Subsequent probing by his family and friends shows that the UK telephone number from which he had received telephone call for the interview was a computer-generated one, while the email domain and its associated website were registered in India. This has prompted concerns that the Indian spy agency RAW could have been behind the abduction plot.

India has always maintained strong influence in Nepal both as the Himalayan country’s main economic and defence partner. Nepalese soldiers are trained in India, which also supplies arms to Nepal. Critics describe India’s relationship with Nepal as ‘semi-colonial’.

India runs its influence in Nepal through RAW. The Nepalese government last year in May cancelled President Bidya Bhandari’s visit to India accusing RAW of backing attempts to topple it. The crisis in the relationship was later managed and RAW retained its foothold there. And as Prof Micheal Hutt, who teaches Nepali and Himalayan Studies at University of London, sometime back told BBC: “India has been a political player in Nepal as much as any Nepali political party.”

A serving RAW officer Kulbhushan Jadhav, who is originally from India, was caught in Pakistan last year and has been accused of involvement with subversive activities here.

Published in Dawn, April 9th, 2017

 

[Umaish Khan]

We hope our side tackles it in a way that they would forget to use such cheap tricks in the future. The officer should return home safely. It is a matter of honour now.

 

[Indian wonk]

Mindless allegation by Pakistan , they are GUESSING he has been abducted by R&AW what non sense.

 

[el 3mir]

You should point that to the OP who started this insinuation that RAW was involved. This pyramid is build on false assumptions and it will fall like pack of cards.

I defenitely think that this case will fail miserably in international courts–if it even goes there. RAW is involved yes, but the claim that the guy they caught is an ISI agent is just absurd and stupid.

 

[Sam.]

ISI with small budget defeated RAW, KHAD and the papa of all KGB.
We can do it again. For your information mossad and CIA can't do it. They will put alot at stake. Pakistan can hit israel hard by helping hezbollah or hamas. CIA needs us in afghanistan because we have got few friends there too. And not to forget our new friends and 4 million potential recruits sitting here. We just have to blackmail them and we will have our agent.

Lol KGB defeated by NATO, CIA & Mossad. Next thing you will claim is USA mars mission i guess

 

[patman]

Mindless allegation by Pakistan , they are GUESSING he has been abducted by R&AW what non sense.

wtf was he doing at the open borders of Nepal , seriously i wish our agency caught this terrorist and bust his operation rings

 

[Sam.]

We hope our side tackles it in a way that they would forget to use such cheap tricks in the future. The officer should return home safely. It is a matter of honour now.

Bangladesh has him so go fetch him from there.