Indian RAW directly involved in APS massacre (Dunya Kamran Khan kay Sath)

[MastanKhan]

Tell me IB, how much proof is there for this story ?
Bigger than a "postage stamp" ?

Sir,

Postage stamp is the most important part of the package---without it the mail is not delivered.

 

[syedali73]

this is a serious allegation and shouldn't be made without irrefutable proof. such proof should be shared with wikileaks and other international news agencies and UN.
if the so called proof is circumstantial and flimsy then the claimant should be punished so that such behaviour can be discouraged.

I doubt if our Indian neighbours can go that low. even if there is a suggestion of rogue RAW operation then it will be hard to prove because they will cover their tracks very well and use Afghan/ Pakistani operatives to stay blameless.


our COAS would have gone public and gone to Americans with such proof if Indian hand was discovered. I know RAW personale wont have lost any sleep over the massacre in APS and thousands in Indian web community actually mocked and taunted the APS victims but that doesnt mean Indians were involved. on the other hand thousands over thousands in inda not only prayed in respect for the dead but expressed their grief towards the victims too.

Taking into consideration what Bharat has been doing against Pakistan right from 1947, it is not far fetched an allegation. Bhrati occupation troops have been raping under aged girls as weapon of terrorism and suppression in Kashmir and elsewhere and raping women let alone underage girls (and boys) is far more heinous a crime against humanity than supporting terrorists to kill children. If Bharati troops can rape minors, what makes you think they'll not murder kids? Bharat can and will stoop to any level to take revenge of 900+ years of subjugation.

A government run by confessed terrorists like Modi and Dhoval can do ANYTHING.

Lets say we got all the proofs and evidences, do we have competent people in our Govt to properly "present" them not just in-front of internal audience but to the external stakeholders as well. I am very sorry to say that the way our Govt. Officials have handle these situations is pathetic. Just go over the "bayans" of Mr. Sartaj Aziz in the news article here they seems so defensive, where is the rage, where is the zeal of putting the commitment that we will bring to justice all who were involved and track them till we get them at all costs...?

I mean someone comes to your house kill your brother/sister/son etc, you have the proof/evidence in your hands about who did it then...what the hell you are waiting for? Why haven't you mobilize all the resources in your disposal to bring to justice or at least gather a support to bring the killers to justice....I mean do we have concrete strategy of countering Indian narrative in a methodical fashion on terrorism? Are we constantly working on executable short terms plans to develop and strengthen groups in-house and abroad to counter Indian lobbies maligning Pakistan specifically w.r.t. terrorism....? Why we are so dam lazy to bring to limelight the evidences in-front of UN and other rightful stakeholders...? What is holding us back? Anyone...please.

Governments run by a PM who is dying to establish business in an enemy country do not do types of things you have mentioned; it is a no-brainer. Why you think General Raheel has extended Zarb-e-Azb to cities and against corrupt to core politicians and their cronies (Dr. Asim one such example)? Why these bastard's cases are being taken to anti-terrorism courts? It is because a large majority of Pakistani politicians are 5th columns, bikao maal, whose interests are not in Pakistan.

 

[ravindra1455]

only a coward would hit civilian coz you cant fight with our brave army

come out of bunker and fight

 

[danger007]

Taking into consideration what Bharat has been doing against Pakistan right from 1947, it is not far fetched an allegation. Bhrati occupation troops have been raping under aged girls as weapon of terrorism and suppression in Kashmir and elsewhere and raping women let alone underage girls (and boys) is far more heinous a crime against humanity than supporting terrorists to kill children. If Bharati troops can rape minors, what makes you think they'll not murder kids? Bharat can and will stoop to any level to take revenge of 900+ years of subjugation.

A government run by confessed terrorists like Modi and Dhoval can do ANYTHING.


Governments run by a PM who is dying to establish business in an enemy country do not do types of things you have mentioned; it is a no-brainer. Why you think General Raheel has extended Zarb-e-Azb to cities and against corrupt to core politicians and their cronies (Dr. Asim one such example)? Why these bastard's cases are being taken to anti-terrorism courts? It is because a large majority of Pakistani politicians are 5th columns, bikao maal, whose interests are not in Pakistan.

I always wondered about TTA's senses... it is pakistan who started mess in kashmir. .. you are talking like innocent. .. funding and exporting your citizens illegally into kashmir. .. brainwashing kashmir youth and turning them against instead.... and crying for them...it is pakistan who is exporting terrorism into India for kashmir... we are just defending our territory. . Lets not forget that OBL raid happened in pakistan not somewhere else. . US Israel etc are urged directly pakistan to not let free the Mumbai masterminds .. so much innocent talk from TTA..

Taking into consideration what Bharat has been doing against Pakistan right from 1947, it is not far fetched an allegation. Bhrati occupation troops have been raping under aged girls as weapon of terrorism and suppression in Kashmir and elsewhere and raping women let alone underage girls (and boys) is far more heinous a crime against humanity than supporting terrorists to kill children. If Bharati troops can rape minors, what makes you think they'll not murder kids? Bharat can and will stoop to any level to take revenge of 900+ years of subjugation.

A government run by confessed terrorists like Modi and Dhoval can do ANYTHING.


Governments run by a PM who is dying to establish business in an enemy country do not do types of things you have mentioned; it is a no-brainer. Why you think General Raheel has extended Zarb-e-Azb to cities and against corrupt to core politicians and their cronies (Dr. Asim one such example)? Why these bastard's cases are being taken to anti-terrorism courts? It is because a large majority of Pakistani politicians are 5th columns, bikao maal, whose interests are not in Pakistan.

I always wondered about TTA's senses... it is pakistan who started mess in kashmir. .. you are talking like innocent. .. funding and exporting your citizens illegally into kashmir. .. brainwashing kashmir youth and turning them against instead.... and crying for them...it is pakistan who is exporting terrorism into India for kashmir... we are just defending our territory. . Lets not forget that OBL raid happened in pakistan not somewhere else. . US Israel etc are urged directly pakistan to not let free the Mumbai masterminds .. so much innocent talk from TTA..

 

[kadamba-warrior]

Indian RAW directly involved in APS massacre (Dunya Kamran Khan kay Sath)
Kamran Khan today in his program revealed that Indian intelligence agency RAW was behind APS Peshawar massacre. All attack was planed by RAW and attackers were directly taking instructions from RAW agents in Afghanistan. Pak Army have collected all related evidence and in the form of dossier all Indian terror activities in Pakistan was to be presented to India in cancelled dialogue.

He also revealed that many terrorist networks operated by RAW are broken and hundreds of Indian agents have been arrested that's why India is firing on working boundary to divert attention of Pak army.

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In an hour long commentary filled with political commentary, news about ceasefire violations, punctuated by military chest-thumping and commercial breaks, the dude makes a passing reference to the same old conspiracy theory with absolutely nothing to back it up and the Pakistanis take it as a breaking news and an irrefutable new evidence!

Like somebody already pointed out, this is really sick and trivializing the death of those innocent souls for petty point-scoring and even worse, for their own TRP's!


On a larger point, I think this kind of 'news' is simply part of the same propaganda by Pakistani intelligence agencies with their own people who 'want' their gullible civilians to believe that India was responsible for APS attack.

This kind of propaganda with their own people, not only serves to deflect accountability from the security/investigating agencies to find out the real culprit, but also helps to prepare the next generations of Ajmal Kasab's that will take up guns after a brief sermon, to sneak into India to cause multiple Mumbai-like massacres!

 

[Kakaspai]

What would India archive by helping commit this heinous crime, i feel so low even in denying this base less allegations full of lies.

why such a delicate issue is being aired through media ? why not go to UN if you are so sure about it. This is very pathetic allegation

bro you may be a good person but bad elements are present in both india and Pakistan,and they dont fell so low doing this

 

[Butchcassidy]

Lol at news anchors on both sides

 

[ravi kiran]

industrial scale murder of Indian civilians, and families, parents and children

wow great just great

 

[Neutron]

TTP spokesman Muhammad Omar Khorasani said that "we targeted the school because the Army targets our families. We want them to feel our pain.", "Our six fighters successfully entered the Army school and we are giving them instructions from outside," said Khorasani by phone. Khorasani also said "Our suicide bombers have entered the school, they have instructions not to harm the children, but to target the Army personnel. It's a revenge attack for the Army offensive in North Waziristan." Later though the Taliban claimed contrary by putting out a statement saying, “More than 50 sons of important army officers were killed after being identified.” The attacks were mainly coordinated by TTP leaders operating in Afghanistan.According to the Pakistani Federal Investigation Agency or FIA's early investigations, the group was led by the terrorist, Abu Shamil who planned the attacks, accompanied by three Arabs and two Afghans who spoke Pashto and were from Eastern Afghanistan.On 18 December 2014, a video was released by TTP on their website showing a man named Umar Mansoor revealing that he was the mastermind behind the Peshawar School attack.However, the Pakistan government officials commented that the planning of the attack was actually carried out by Saddam Jan, who was instructed by Umar Mansoor on behalf of Maulana Fazlullah.On 26 December 2014 at midnight, Jan was hunted and killed by the special forces in Khyber Agency in a secret hideout alongside six unidentified high value targets.

Don't you know that Umar mansoor, Saddam Jan and Fazlullah were indian assets?????

 

[I.R.A]

Well call me emotional or whatever, but if it was up to me I will show a middle finger to Afghanistan and go straight after Radio Fazlu, I would have a dedicated strong team assigned this task to bring that swine back alive in Pakistan, and to assist that team I would not hesitate to use whatever resources, JF, F-16, Ghouriz, Hatafs, Gunships, Mortars, POF eye, shells, daggers, rocket launchers, missiles or whatever other gola barood you people discuss on this forum, but I would not sleep and utter a word till that swine along with fake Khurassanis is brought back alive here in Pakistan. But again that would be me and I am no one.

That bastard Radio ran away leaving behind his female family members including little daughter at the mercy of his worst enemies, whom he hates so much, and then planed to carry out an attack on harmless innocent children of his enemies. Dallah low life.

 

[iPhone]

Lately, it seems some in Pak media have gone the Indian media route i.e. blame anything bad that happens in your country on the other side. Like this buffoon indian investigative reporter who rang a random number, supposedly, in Karachi to prove Daowd Ibrahim lived there.

It's been a known and proven fact that some in Pak media are very impressionable- Entire news channels as a matter of fact. When they see some indian tv channels (not all) being loud and obnoxious, screaming on top of their lungs, ISI involvement and big bad Pakistan. They in turn try to prove their patriotism by doing the same.

Kamran Khan. Sigh, oh lord. Imo, he should be declared a disgraced journalist, due to his involvement with bol tv network. After the whole Xact fiasco, Talat Hussain on his show took KH to task, when he grilled him for his bol tv venture. KH, couldn't give a satisfactory response.

I don't know what to say about Raw behind APS attack but if that is the case then it's gotta be taken to the u.N. no ifs ands or buts, and no media trial until it's taken to the official international organizations. Why should pak stay quiet on this utter barbaric act committed some of the lowest of the lowest forms on earth? I don't believe in conspiracies and to my understanding, Pak army has avenged those children - to a large extent - by hanging the directly involved by their necks and destroying their network of terror.

I say, the earthly case for this incident has closed. May the creator judge the culprits and continue to judge them through all entirety for what they did that day.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

Taking into consideration what Bharat has been doing against Pakistan right from 1947, it is not far fetched an allegation. Bhrati occupation troops have been raping under aged girls as weapon of terrorism and suppression in Kashmir and elsewhere and raping women let alone underage girls (and boys) is far more heinous a crime against humanity than supporting terrorists to kill children. If Bharati troops can rape minors, what makes you think they'll not murder kids? Bharat can and will stoop to any level to take revenge of 900+ years of subjugation.

A government run by confessed terrorists like Modi and Dhoval can do ANYTHING.


Governments run by a PM who is dying to establish business in an enemy country do not do types of things you have mentioned; it is a no-brainer. Why you think General Raheel has extended Zarb-e-Azb to cities and against corrupt to core politicians and their cronies (Dr. Asim one such example)? Why these bastard's cases are being taken to anti-terrorism courts? It is because a large majority of Pakistani politicians are 5th columns, bikao maal, whose interests are not in Pakistan.

like I said, allegations are serious and must be backed up with admissible and hard proof otherwise they remain just allegations which shows us poorly and gives Indians a chance to make a mockery of us even more

 

[Dazzler]

i feel for Indians really, they are tasting their own medicine lately, it is you whose media shouts ISI behind everything yeah, that pigeon, that parrot, whats next? the dog that crossed LOC?

 

[nair]

If Pakistan had any proof against India on this incident then they would have been all over the world by now (rightly so)... if they disclose this on those rhetoric talk shows that means they have no proof or they look for some one to blame...The best option?? "Evil hindu". Who else....

 

[Bhasad Singh Mundi]

10 years, so much destruction, so much killing and these ppl still havnt learnt anything.