Indian Prime Minister's Upcoming Visit

[Contrarian]

AL led govt is trying to disguise its acts of giving away transit to Indian interest. How a transit for India can be recipricated by India if again BD gives more transits to Nepal and Bhutan for their foreign trade? Foreign secretary is calling it a 'Regional Transit.' Not bad words to appease India. But, where is our transit? Why BD does not demand transits to Pakistan and China in exchange?

Because there is absolutely nothing that you can send to Pakistan through India. It is going to be expensive as hell. the same reason India doesnt ask for a land transit to Saudi Arabia from Pakistan!

Any trade like that is done through the sea. You really seem to be very intelligent.

China you can trade with. I dont know the status of that. Maybe the border should be settled first and then the rest of the discussions about trade should take place.

There is a big difference between China and India. While China tries to fix the ladder beneath our legs, India tries to take it away. This is why China is trusted and india is not.

Yeah, so you give your unsubstantiated statements based on your feelings. You trust China, so a credit line which is not as favourable as India's is acceptable to you blindly. Nice, way to go mate.

BTW, giving transit to India really helps BD, they make money in every form! From direct transit fee which they gain, to an increased economic activity in their territory, which includes tons of things from increased vehicle movement to heck the drivers eating at roadside dhabas! Its a complete win win for BD!

 

[Zabaniyah]

Anyone who is against Bangladesh's transit to India is a certified retard.

 

[asad71]

1. What India is actually looking for is not Transit but Corridor. So no one will know what is being transported.

2. Even a transit will eventually harm BD's free trade with NE. India employs various measures to discourage legal trading between BD and NE. For instance, several industrial ventures have been set up to cater for the NE market. Even some items brought in from India and pushed into NE are cheaper than would be going round the Siliguri Corridor.

3. Transit will open up NE economy thus harming the freedom struggles. If it is Corridor then overtly, if Transit covertly, India will transport military hardware to subjugate NE peoples further, and create an issue for BD's natural ally China.

5. The all important question is: why should BD accede to any request of India when she has not honored any treaty/commitment/promise/agreement she made with BD beginning The Mujib Indira Border Treaty?

6. Deals are made among friends. India has proved herself to be BD's Non-Friend because of her attitude problem, because she is shooting BD citizens on the border everyday, because she masterminded The Peelkhana Carnage, etc, etc.

 

[nForce]

1. What India is actually looking for is not Transit but Corridor. So no one will know what is being transported.

2. Even a transit will eventually harm BD's free trade with NE. India employs various measures to discourage legal trading between BD and NE. For instance, several industrial ventures have been set up to cater for the NE market. Even some items brought in from India and pushed into NE are cheaper than would be going round the Siliguri Corridor.

3. Transit will open up NE economy thus harming the freedom struggles. If it is Corridor then overtly, if Transit covertly, India will transport military hardware to subjugate NE peoples further, and create an issue for BD's natural ally China.

5. The all important question is: why should BD accede to any request of India when she has not honored any treaty/commitment/promise/agreement she made with BD beginning The Mujib Indira Border Treaty?

6. Deals are made among friends. India has proved herself to be BD's Non-Friend because of her attitude problem, because she is shooting BD citizens on the border everyday, because she masterminded The Peelkhana Carnage, etc, etc.

errr... You are accusing India of producing and selling goods at a cheaper cost??What kind of allegation is this?? I heard something like this for the first time.
And then,you go ahead accusing India of taking care of her own territory?? I dont get this one either.Should it have been other way around??

 

[luckyyy]

There is a big difference between China and India. While China tries to fix the ladder beneath our legs, India tries to take it away. This is why China is trusted and india is not.

i think it's not ladder fixing but more to do with religion ...

 

[integra]

i think it's not ladder fixing but more to do with religion ...

Didn't know that the Chinese were Hindu.....

 

[luckyyy]

Didn't know that the Chinese were Hindu.....

coz they are not ..

 

[Zabaniyah]

1. What India is actually looking for is not Transit but Corridor. So no one will know what is being transported.

What are they going to transport? Hiding nukes?

2. Even a transit will eventually harm BD's free trade with NE. India employs various measures to discourage legal trading between BD and NE. For instance, several industrial ventures have been set up to cater for the NE market. Even some items brought in from India and pushed into NE are cheaper than would be going round the Siliguri Corridor.

There are Bangladeshi goods already in trade in NE India, and growing. The transit will help in that growth.
http://www.thedailystar.net/newDesign/news-details.php?nid=123730

3. Transit will open up NE economy thus harming the freedom struggles. If it is Corridor then overtly, if Transit covertly, India will transport military hardware to subjugate NE peoples further, and create an issue for BD's natural ally China.

Who told you this? Please don't speak nonsense. We don't have any stake in Indo-Sino hostilities.

5. The all important question is: why should BD accede to any request of India when she has not honored any treaty/commitment/promise/agreement she made with BD beginning The Mujib Indira Border Treaty?
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According to the Indians, the Indian PM's visit to Dhaka would address those. Apparently, Indian bureaucracy is very slow. I once posted a thread about this.
http://www.defence.pk/forums/bangla...angladesh-relations-one-sided-love-story.html

We'll just have to see. Pretty sure something will come out of it. Our politician's mistake was that it gave away the whole cake to India as far as use of the transit facilities go. They even gave tax-free. But then, what do we expect out of the AL? Stupid as stupid.

6. Deals are made among friends. India has proved herself to be BD's Non-Friend because of her attitude problem, because she is shooting BD citizens on the border everyday, because she masterminded The Peelkhana Carnage, etc, etc.

There is no proof hinting that India was behind the Pilkhana tragedy.

Yeah, a lot of shenanigans went on in the border. That's why there is a fence that India built which costed a lot of money. Ever wondered why there isn't one on Bhutan's and Nepal's border with India?

 

[Contrarian]

Wow! You really are really educated aren't you my friend! Phenomenally logical answers!

1. What India is actually looking for is not Transit but Corridor. So no one will know what is being transported.

Ofcourse BD would know what is being transported. Who the heck gives you such ideas, do the Jamatis or BNP talk about such idiocy in their speeches?

2. Even a transit will eventually harm BD's free trade with NE. India employs various measures to discourage legal trading between BD and NE. For instance, several industrial ventures have been set up to cater for the NE market. Even some items brought in from India and pushed into NE are cheaper than would be going round the Siliguri Corridor.

So now you are against trade at lowest prices! BD trades with any part of India with the same policies that GoI specifies! Unless your talking of smuggled goods, which anyway will reduce once the borders are settled and then eventually fenced.

3. Transit will open up NE economy thus harming the freedom struggles. If it is Corridor then overtly, if Transit covertly, India will transport military hardware to subjugate NE peoples further, and create an issue for BD's natural ally China.

Brilliant! You want to fan the militancy in India?
If that is the case, then relations between India and BD would be the same as India & Pakistan. Let me assure you, Pakistan tried for 5 decades, and look where they are now. BD wont even last 5 years if they decided to pursue the policy of destabilizing India.

This should be pretty clear, the only reason India is going ahead with any treaty with BD like the Water sharing deal, the border settlement(in which we lose a lot of land), the credit line, etc is because BD has shown a firm commitment to rooting out terrorists which were using BD as their base. A policy that was pursued by your BNP.

5. The all important question is: why should BD accede to any request of India when she has not honored any treaty/commitment/promise/agreement she made with BD beginning The Mujib Indira Border Treaty?

Read the above reply.

6. Deals are made among friends. India has proved herself to be BD's Non-Friend because of her attitude problem, because she is shooting BD citizens on the border everyday, because she masterminded The Peelkhana Carnage, etc, etc.

Yeah and im sure YOU and other Jamatis & BNP supporters are the ONLY people who know India masterminded the Pilkhana tragedy. Go show some bloody proof to your govt and if they don't listen to the UN.

As regards to shooting on the border, if people illegally cross the border, they will be shot.


Tell me my friend, how is it that you got SO intelligent?
BD really needs to bridge a human resources gap if they want to make it big.

 

[eastwatch]

Because there is absolutely nothing that you can send to Pakistan through India. It is going to be expensive as hell. the same reason India doesnt ask for a land transit to Saudi Arabia from Pakistan!

Any trade like that is done through the sea. You really seem to be very intelligent.

China you can trade with. I dont know the status of that. Maybe the border should be settled first and then the rest of the discussions about trade should take place.

Yeah, so you give your unsubstantiated statements based on your feelings. You trust China, so a credit line which is not as favourable as India's is acceptable to you blindly. Nice, way to go mate.

BTW, giving transit to India really helps BD, they make money in every form! From direct transit fee which they gain, to an increased economic activity in their territory, which includes tons of things from increased vehicle movement to heck the drivers eating at roadside dhabas! Its a complete win win for BD!

You are not probably aware that Bangladesh govt has already asked a railway transit to Pakistan through which it wants to import Uzhbek cotton. Since this is the reality, therefore, all your other arguments like transit to Saudi Arabia or taking a ship to Tibet (oh! you did not say that. But, why not? You should talk like an Indian) are invalid. No point in answering your illogical points.

 

[InFn-0]

Lets see how many of these promises will be fulfilled. If history means anything then we ll not even get a dime.

 

[eastwatch]

Because there is absolutely nothing that you can send to Pakistan through India. It is going to be expensive as hell. the same reason India doesnt ask for a land transit to Saudi Arabia from Pakistan!

Any trade like that is done through the sea. You really seem to be very intelligent.

China you can trade with. I dont know the status of that. Maybe the border should be settled first and then the rest of the discussions about trade should take place.

Yeah, so you give your unsubstantiated statements based on your feelings. You trust China, so a credit line which is not as favourable as India's is acceptable to you blindly. Nice, way to go mate.

BTW, giving transit to India really helps BD, they make money in every form! From direct transit fee which they gain, to an increased economic activity in their territory, which includes tons of things from increased vehicle movement to heck the drivers eating at roadside dhabas! Its a complete win win for BD!

I understand the feeling of all the Indians. But, you also have to understand how your politicians and bureaucrats have messed everything by taking advantage of our weak position in the past. What I have stated in the other post is not my personal feeling. It is what, in average, the people of Bangladesh think of india.

Well, you may say China is taking advantage of it. But, it is not true. It is we who are taking advantage of India-China rivalry. Chinese companies are building bridges, water treatment plants, highways, roads, and even a urea fertilizer factory. They extend us loan, but their people do not make a fuss about it. This makes a big difference between China and india. Indians love to brag and want to become big DADA. DADA mentality is dispised by all the Bangladeshis.

 

[Contrarian]

You are not probably aware that Bangladesh govt has already asked a railway transit to Pakistan through which it wants to import Uzhbek cotton. Since this is the reality, therefore, all your other arguments like transit to Saudi Arabia or taking a ship to Tibet (oh! you did not say that. But, why not? You should talk like an Indian) are invalid. No point in answering your illogical points.

I hope you are aware that it is the Indian railways that mooted the proposal of an interconnected South Asian rail system!

 

[Contrarian]

I understand the feeling of all the Indians. But, you also have to understand how your politicians and bureaucrats have messed everything by taking advantage of our weak position in the past. What I have stated in the other post is not my personal feeling. It is what, in average, the people of Bangladesh think of india.

What advantage of BD? Be specific. India is willing to have a border deal with you in which we lose land. India is willing to sign a water sharing agreement with you, India is willing to give you a credit line.

You have a sense of entitlement. Why?
You have this thing that only you were wronged. Do you know that your major national party BNP-when in power- actively supported the militancy in NE India? Do you know that the Arms haul uncovered in BD involves the son of your ex PM, and was intended to be given to ULFA?

Well, you may say China is taking advantage of it. But, it is not true. It is we who are taking advantage of India-China rivalry. Chinese companies are building bridges, water treatment plants, highways, roads, and even a urea fertilizer factory. They extend us loan, but their people do not make a fuss about it. This makes a big difference between China and india. Indians love to brag and want to become big DADA. DADA mentality is dispised by all the Bangladeshis.

So you want India to help you, but you dont want anyone to talk about it. Heck when your current govt helped India by removing militants from your territory and took action against them, India VOCALLY appreciated that. You didnt seem to mind it then?

 

[praveen]

@eastwatch I don't know what grouse Bangladeshis have wrt to india but I warn you not to entertain anti india thoughts.The one who is cause of your genesis will be the cause of your demise