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True, he should have owned up to it. Its poor image management.
Exactly. What is the point of electing BJP if they behave like Congress.
Just how every sickular did wondrous acrobatics to show that nothing ever was Congress high command's fault. It was always someone else's (mostly BJP's) fault.
 
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Exactly. What is the point of electing BJP if they behave like Congress.
Just how every sickular did wondrous acrobatics to show that nothing ever was Congress high command's fault. It was always someone else's (mostly BJP's) fault.

Owing up to it in public is only perception management and media management. It does not mean anything beyond that.

The real problem is the mindset that is defensive about governance which is a legacy from the "secular" govt's of the past. The media did a good job in ripping apart the Yogi govt. for this mindset and that whipping seems to have worked. But only time will tell if somebody will go to jail for this. Hopefully not the vendor but some govt. official.
 
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Congress "secular" rule in Karnataka,

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This is Typical Kerala style "Red Herring" which is the standard rule in public debate.

Whenever you will want to discuss real Kerala issues with a Malayalai, he will start talking about UP, Haryana, Akhilaq, Gujarat riots , US attack on iraq etc etc. :lol:


This absurdity has been swallowed Hook Line and Sinker by the "educated" mallus. That is the true power of sustained propaganda.

It would have been hilarious, if it was not so damn tragic.
 
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Nothing that we’re going to say here can ever be proved. One is free to believe it, one is free to label it a plain lie. That anyone says is immaterial, for the truth must be told somewhere.

What's happening right now was waiting to happen ever since Yogi Adi swore in as UP CM against the wishes of Motabhai and his trusted lieutenant.
The fact is, Motabhai wanted their puppet installed as CM in the state, the way they did in other states before UP. So Maurya was their choice.

After a high drama between Lucknow and 11 Ashoka Road, Yogi Adi was able to throw his weight around- thanks to the statewide influence of the Hindu Yuva Vahini (HYV) under his command. After a week-long drama, for the first time after ’14, Motabhai & co had to concede defeat in front of someone they considered weak.
Defeat notwithstanding and given the larger than life stature of Motabhai, negotiations ensued and Yogi Adi was asked to water down HYV, don a secular, moderate Vikaasvadi face. Adi had to agree to this and some top leaders of HYV were shown the door. Recruitment in HYV was brought to a near standstill in the state. Maurya and Sharma were made deputies to keep a tab on him.
Minority schemes in UP had a massive increase in funding- be it madrassas or minority scholarships.

But as if this wasn’t enough, Yogi Adi was warned in advance - One communal Riot in the state and he'll have to step down from CMship. Adi has been walking a darn tight rope in the state ever since. And even while he was concentrating on Law& Order in the state, Samajwadi Party ecosystem not helping things either, Gorakhpur happened.
There’s nothing novel about the left and the opposition making their usual noise over such things. What’s new this time is, even pro-BJP mouthpieces hyping the issue beyond Yogi's control - giving the impression it's a major national calamity.
Switch to any pro-BJP channel and they’ll be seen talking not about the RS scam, Doklam standoff, Pak ceasefire violation, debate on article 35A or even the current devastating floods in the NE– it’s all just the Gorakhpur incident everywhere.

There's an immense pressure right now on Yogi to resign.
This being the first strike against him, he won't. However, it means him being strong-armed by Mota Bhai to concede more ground to them and giving more powers to his men.

The moment Motabhai is done with his terms & conditions, makes Yogi let go of some of his territory, the media will swiftly turn to facts like who the doctor was, who the administrator was etc., and hint the fault of erstwhile SP govt in the entire case. Corruption will be labelled the culprit and Vikaas will emerge the winner.
Yogi will then be let off the hook and left to attend to his wounds, being shown his place and who he can't be the alternative to.

-- Shankh Naad

@Roybot @ranjeet @Soumitra @IndoCarib @Nilgiri @JanjaWeed @Rain Man

Who is the motabhai in this ? is it Arun Jaitely or Rajnath Singh? becoz yogi was the choice of both amith shah and modi so i dont see them going against him . Not sure how true is the above article as i cant believe anyone being more powerful than modi/Shah in BJP now


mota bhai is Amit Shah. Yogi needs to be mindful of the fact he has enemies both within his house and outside of it.
 
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What INC must do is to buy these Sanghi propaganda poster's service for the next election. Look, how easily they are doing their work of "justifying" their RSS terrorist leaders. INC must use at least a few percentage of their khotala money in purchasing these swayamsevaks and propaganda posters of Bhartiya Joomla Party and RSS.
 
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What INC must do is to buy these Sanghi propaganda poster's service for the next election. Look, how easily they are doing their work of "justifying" their RSS terrorist leaders. INC must use at least a few percentage of their khotala money in purchasing these swayamsevaks and propaganda posters of Bhartiya Joomla Party and RSS.

I am available for the right price. Please ask INC to contact me.

Its about time I got my share of the loot. It has to be at least a 3 year contract. Do we have a deal ?
 
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Where is the opposition in India?
The BJP’s ideology is reasonably clear, in both its extreme and moderate forms. But the opposition lacks a coherent and consistent platform

My friends who are opposed to the Bharatiya Janata Party — and I have friends who support it too — often despair at the politics of the party ruling at the Centre and in various States. But sometimes I feel that they should despair more at the national opposition — and the parties in opposition to the BJP in many States.

Because the BJP, for better or for worse, is there. You can count its warts or confer a halo on it, but you cannot miss noticing it. But I wonder if we have any real opposition left in India — both at the national level and in many States.

This came through most recently in my home State, Bihar, where Chief Minister Nitish Kumar easily switched from his ‘grand alliance’ with Lalu Prasad to staying the Chief Minister with the support of the party (BJP) that he had rebuffed just three years ago. Now, I am not convinced that Mr. Kumar’s move was necessarily opportunistic — though things like his inability to induct more than one woman in a cabinet of 27, given his loud commitment to women’s emancipation, were definitely disappointing. Still, he had to choose between a family increasingly seen as tainted with nepotism and a party sadly dominated by those whose vision of the future seems to be based on virulent hatreds inherited from the past.

The disappearing opposition
So, that is not the main issue for me. It is this: that once Mr. Kumar made the switch, the opposition to the BJP was revealed as basically ineffective and non-existent. This seemed to follow the pattern at the Centre and in some other States. This is also far more worrying, because the BJP does exist as the ruling party today, but the opposition seems to exist less and less with each year.

There are various reasons for it. These include the inability of the Congress to abandon its ruling family, compounded by the fact that Rahul Gandhi, as decent a person as any in politics, nevertheless lacks the type of political charisma that is required to lead a party to victory in India today. This is partly because the times have changed: the taluk classes call the political shots in India, and they cannot easily trust a very metropolitan person like Mr. Gandhi. I know; I come from those taluk classes, and I have difficulty trusting Mr. Gandhi’s equivalents in the literary world! But even without the times changing, compare the political acumen and sheer rhetorical presence of Jawaharlal Nehru and Indira Gandhi with Rahul Gandhi’s performance, and you will spot a difference.

The communists have long been split between a highly intellectual urban circle, which can get across only to people with university degrees, and a very parochial rural movement, which addresses genuine problems (for instance, the exploitation of aborigines at the hands of all governments), but in the very process limits its appeal to small regions. Even if you are a communist, it is impossible to imagine the supposedly revolutionary activities of Maoist groups finding any purchase outside remote parts of the hinterland.

As for the rest, well, they seem to comprise parties led by powerful regional leaders, and often run by specific families. Sometimes the words come up — secularism, democracy, human rights, etc. — but they seldom seem to be anything other than rhetoric used by a certain group to obtain fleeting electoral support. In short, it is worrying: there is no substantial and coherent opposition left in India right now. Some people might argue that it exists at the grassroots. This is a deceptive argument: first, because it cannot be documented with numbers; and second, because in a working democracy any grassroots opposition needs to wear the face of at least some political party.

The great Indian tragedy
Some of my BJP friends — not in the lunatic fringe, thankfully, but belonging to the old ideological core — smirk at this. They exult in the fact that the Indian opposition is either in disarray or divided up by narrow domestic walls. This worries me (also because the lack of a real opposition seems to be a spreading global problem, undergirded by the corporate logic of neoliberal capitalism and its enmeshment with nationalism).

Any democracy needs a thriving and coherent opposition. The great tragedy of India does not seem to be the BJP, with which one can agree or disagree; the great tragedy of India is the lack of a real and issue-based opposition. The BJP’s ideology is reasonably clear, in both its extreme and moderate forms. But the opposition seems to lack a coherent and consistent platform. It largely fails to provide alternative views of government and it seldom responds cohesively to the BJP’s moves, leaving it to afflicted politicians to react singly.

Alas, it is not just a nation that needs an opposition. So do human beings, as Kabir knew:

“Neendak niyare raakhiye aangan kuti chhawaye;

Bin saabun paani bina nirmal karat subhaye.”

Roughly translated:

“Your critic keep beside you, his hut on your house should lean:

Without water or soap, he’ll keep your nature clean.”

Both BJP supporters and BJP opponents need to worry about this lack of a coherent opposition — for the sake of India, and perhaps also for the sake of human nature.

http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/where-is-the-opposition-in-india/article19436063.ece/amp/
This is exactly what I have been saying for a long. A good opposition (not the bootlicker of one community for vote) is direly needed to keep a check on gov. Modi might have created his balloony image which is difficult to demolish even if he fails to deliver what he has promised to do. We must have a choice of another good political leader from good opposition party who can take on gov on its deliveries to common man & can capture the aspirations of ppl.
But the most sought pre requisite is he should be PRO DHARMIC, ruthless deliverer & no nonsense person when it comes to indianness.

Modi doesn't seem to be in desperation in the wake of weak opposition to deliver what he has promised to, this has disappointed me especially on Hindu cause like promoting Sanskrit,Namaami Gange, Anti conversion law, creating an univ for Vedic knowledge & science. He even didn't bother to take up RAM TEMPLE issue for speedy hearings in court, it was Swami who all the way leading the case now, Modi has just confined his gov wisdom to provide the affidavits in courts that's it.
Modi might have been able to curb the corruption at high level of governance system but what worries the common man lies at bottom. I still see how national asset is being looted or manipulated through tender process, babus at bottom are least disturbed by this gov in public offices, still babus are up to business as usual.

If we had a good opposition & more important a good caliber leader in opposition, Modi wouldn't have any chance to walk 7 race course in for second time.

Having said that I still have high hopes from Modi & see him a pivotal figure in politics for changing Indias discourse for futuristic good. Most important he is the only one pitching his hat for Hindu aspirations at present rest other political streams has replaced Gandhi's three monkeys.
 
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I am available for the right price. Please ask INC to contact me.

Its about time I got my share of the loot. It has to be at least a 3 year contract. Do we have a deal ?
Hey I have a direct line with Amit Shah. If you want increase in payment I can try and help you. But you have to increase your post count. Last 3 months you missed your target. This month as you know the target is double beciase of Independence Day

You meet your target and I will get you a raise
 
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Hey I have a direct line with Amit Shah. If you want increase in payment I can try and help you. But you have to increase your post count. Last 3 months you missed your target. This month as you know the target is double beciase of Independence Day

You meet your target and I will get you a raise

How can I trust Amit Shah when he has treated my hero prashant kishor so badly ?

Pappu gave prashant kishor Bihar, UP and punjab. Best part is we get paid even if we don't achieve any result. Pappu leads by example.

There is No way BJP can match these work environment. Next you will be asking me to pay taxes and link my PAN to aadhar.
 
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Nothing that we’re going to say here can ever be proved. One is free to believe it, one is free to label it a plain lie. That anyone says is immaterial, for the truth must be told somewhere.

What's happening right now was waiting to happen ever since Yogi Adi swore in as UP CM against the wishes of Motabhai and his trusted lieutenant.
The fact is, Motabhai wanted their puppet installed as CM in the state, the way they did in other states before UP. So Maurya was their choice.

After a high drama between Lucknow and 11 Ashoka Road, Yogi Adi was able to throw his weight around- thanks to the statewide influence of the Hindu Yuva Vahini (HYV) under his command. After a week-long drama, for the first time after ’14, Motabhai & co had to concede defeat in front of someone they considered weak.
Defeat notwithstanding and given the larger than life stature of Motabhai, negotiations ensued and Yogi Adi was asked to water down HYV, don a secular, moderate Vikaasvadi face. Adi had to agree to this and some top leaders of HYV were shown the door. Recruitment in HYV was brought to a near standstill in the state. Maurya and Sharma were made deputies to keep a tab on him.
Minority schemes in UP had a massive increase in funding- be it madrassas or minority scholarships.

But as if this wasn’t enough, Yogi Adi was warned in advance - One communal Riot in the state and he'll have to step down from CMship. Adi has been walking a darn tight rope in the state ever since. And even while he was concentrating on Law& Order in the state, Samajwadi Party ecosystem not helping things either, Gorakhpur happened.
There’s nothing novel about the left and the opposition making their usual noise over such things. What’s new this time is, even pro-BJP mouthpieces hyping the issue beyond Yogi's control - giving the impression it's a major national calamity.
Switch to any pro-BJP channel and they’ll be seen talking not about the RS scam, Doklam standoff, Pak ceasefire violation, debate on article 35A or even the current devastating floods in the NE– it’s all just the Gorakhpur incident everywhere.

There's an immense pressure right now on Yogi to resign.
This being the first strike against him, he won't. However, it means him being strong-armed by Mota Bhai to concede more ground to them and giving more powers to his men.

The moment Motabhai is done with his terms & conditions, makes Yogi let go of some of his territory, the media will swiftly turn to facts like who the doctor was, who the administrator was etc., and hint the fault of erstwhile SP govt in the entire case. Corruption will be labelled the culprit and Vikaas will emerge the winner.
Yogi will then be let off the hook and left to attend to his wounds, being shown his place and who he can't be the alternative to.

-- Shankh Naad

@Roybot @ranjeet @Soumitra @IndoCarib @Nilgiri @JanjaWeed @Rain Man

Who is the motabhai in this ? is it Arun Jaitely or Rajnath Singh? becoz yogi was the choice of both amith shah and modi so i dont see them going against him . Not sure how true is the above article as i cant believe anyone being more powerful than modi/Shah in BJP now
Sounds like an article from HYV insider! Motabhai could either be Modi or Shah!
Having said that..they wouldn't go down such a cheap route to fix Yogi, regardless what they think of him!
Considering the gravity of the situation, Yogi govt is bound to face some heat..Then again he is doing everything he can to unravel the truth. Till that comes out.. it's free for all in media! They have to make the most till the truth ultimately comes out! You won't see such media manic the day real culprits are caught..
 
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Seculars rape Dalit girls again in UP.
Where are the champions of Dalits?
Where are the champions of secularism?
 
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Mota Bhai means big brother in Gujrati - So most probably it will mean Modi

We BJP supporters should not be hypocritical. Had this happened in say Karnataka we would be demanding Siddaramaih's head. The Responsibility of the Garakhpur tragedy rests n Yogi. For once I am happy that Republic and Times Now are pointing it out , like the way they pursued the Chandigarh case.

Chandigarh case I am inclined to believe the gorl 90% but there is a 10% chance of her lying to defame the boy. Let the investigations be complete

In this case there is no doubt in my mind. The company was not being paid for months together and they had sent repeated reminders. No company can continuously afford to bear the loss and it was the govt's duty to pay them. Whether funds were released for the payment and were gobbed up by babus fo the funds were not even released has to be investigated. But the end result is that the UP govt is at fauld and that means that the buck stops with Yogi Adityanath.

Please note I am not taking the left liberal media view of treating these deaths as a satire - asking whether children needed vande mataram or oxygen or whether they will go to shamshaan or Kabristan.

Please have a read to get some more additional perspective (I of course agree with lot of your opinion here too), TIFWIW, I don't think CM Yogi can be blamed 0% or 100%:

http://rightlog.in/2017/08/yogi-adityanath-japanese-encephalitis-01/

If cong admin in say KA it happened, I would definitely blame them more because they have been in power there much longer and also inherited more robust health system than UP has now. If they also a new admin with bad inheritance issue, then I will mitigate the blame like I do for Yogi admin now.

But Yogi even after this, I still believe he genuinely wants to achieve real change and gets that only way to defeat JE truly is to improve sanitation and get 100% ODF ASAP (prevention is always better than cure). I will definitely be holding him to that promise over everything else.
 
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to improve sanitation

As long as there are butcher shops operating with impunity, sanitation will never improve.
As long as there are tanneries operating near water bodies, sanitation will never improve.

Touch these 2 industries and seculars will cry foul.
Yogi will get blamed either way. He should go full steam ahead and close anything that harms sanitation and say hell to anyone opposing it.
 
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