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[Nilgiri]

From apoorva kumar Phase 3 projection by constituency: (Apoorva Kumar (@ApoorvaKumar4) | Twitter

I will update on my map later, lets see how the Nov 8 results actually turn out....there could be even a bigger Sanghi wave . Even this looks like a royal hammering.

 

[Jai Bharat]

Scroll.in is anti-India newspaper. Their job is post wrong/bad/biased news all the time. Read their history

Absolutely not anti India. It is an anti Hindu website.

By Aarefa Johari. Nuff said.

Some more jems from that wicked source.

I don't get it. India is 80% Hindu, 84% if you add all Dharmics. How is being against 84% of population of a country not being against that country? Which school of logic is this?

To top it Indian soul is a Hindu soul. So can one be pro-India but anti its soul?

Whole editorial board is dominated by non-Hindus. It's another left + cong arse licking site dreaming to replace tehelka as number 1 pseudo liberal chamcha.

Scroll.in is funded by Omidyar Group.

Omidyar Group is a CIA front for US propaganda and misinformation.

search for: pierre-omidyar-co-funded-ukraine-revolution-groups-with-us-government-documents-show

I can't post links yet. But there are a number of online sources and connections between the CIA, Omidyar, and the Ukraine revolutions. Pretty damning stuff.

US has been directly attempting to influence and control India for its entire existence. They started with the Christian NGOs, but after they got banned and Modi+BJP started rising they are increasingly resorting to manipulated media, which is automatically pushed to the top of the list for searches by Google. As is required by the NSA and 'Patriot Act', US has full control of all social media and they will use it entirely to their advantage. India needs to do what China and Russia did and start developing its own state-run media houses that is free from foreign control.

Edit: You should also check out Hilary and her 'Get Modi' initiative which failed. The premise was to set up dummy 'Human Rights' groups in Scandinavian countries to attack Modi and India.

This is how US operates. 'Freedom of the Press' is only for domestic affairs. All international news coming from their media houses, and media fronts, is controlled by the White House.

 

[thesolar65]

Why do you think they are returning the awards? They want people to know their names and be known as a intellectual seculars

Its a clever marketing strategy for their upcoming movies.

 

[itachii]

@wolfschanzze is @bombermax

looks like even @bombermax got banned..

 

[ranjeet]

@Marxist @Nair saab

what is this about?

 

[saurav]

Abhi to Party shuru hui hai..

Quota to Muslims not a sin, says Siddiqui - The Times of India

 

[ranjeet]

https://twitter.com/x/status/659594911394742272

 

[indiatester]

https://twitter.com/x/status/659594911394742272

Tweet that to that shame of an editor RanaAyub

 

[Bang Galore]

Perceptions matter: It’s no coincidence that the narrative of rising intolerance has been peaking around elections

October 28, 2015, Baijayant 'Jay' Panda

It has been some months now since news reports of attacks on churches in India disappeared from the headlines. And thank goodness for that! Yet, for a while late last year and early this year, such reports had seemed to dominate the news, at least in the mainstream English media if not in its much larger vernacular cousins nationwide. In hindsight, it can be useful to examine what happened, as well as assess other allegations and reports of intolerance that have now taken centre stage.

Did the reports of church attacks fade away because, as Vatican Radio reported in May, after many months “prominent Christian leaders (felt the government was finally showing) genuine concern over attacks on the minority community”, causing a sudden cessation of violence? Or was it the case, as argued by many equally prominent voices, that a handful of isolated incidents, some of which were clearly not of a communal nature, had been played up into something worse?

The latter argument is bolstered by the fact that even larger numbers of robberies, vandalism and desecration of other places of worship rarely get reported in the media. For instance, on Christmas Eve last year there was a rather spectacular robbery and desecration of a famous temple in my constituency. Despite creating much consternation locally, the incident barely registered in the regional media, and didn’t get even a passing mention nationally. Fortunately, it was not communal in nature and, equally importantly, no one tried to claim it was.

But discontinued stories of church attacks have given way to a sustained and broader narrative of intolerance against minorities, again much more so in the English rather than vernacular media. Then, as now, the allegations are that fringe elements with political connections to the government have become emboldened and are fanning confrontations, from the controversies over beef, to ink attacks, all the way up to a mob lynching.

This narrative continues to be countered by arguments from the right, which essentially claim that there is no increase in the frequency of such incidents, and that a long entrenched left liberal ecosystem is resisting its political marginalisation by deliberately, selectively and hypocritically playing them up.

That stand has got some support, albeit qualified, from even respectable bastions of liberalism. The BBC, for example, earlier this month commented “there certainly wasn’t a shortage of religious intolerance before Modi was elected”. More on that shortly, but even prominent author Taslima Nasreen, while supporting protesting writers, has commented on the biases of some Indian liberals.

Articulate, prominent voices on both sides continue to duke it out, debating whether the statistics indicate a rising trend of intolerance, and if statistics matter or the perception is bad enough, and dissecting instances of reverse intolerance for and against the charge of selective outrage. Relying on statistics can be a slippery slope, at least in the short term. The BBC blog quoted above refers to an Indian newspaper report indicating a year on year 25% rise in communal incidents in the first five months of 2015. Yet the same newspaper had earlier reported on the topic of church attacks that the numbers were no different than in the previous two years.

As the journalist and author Anand Ranganathan has pointed out, some of the commentators that cite statistics to claim rising intolerance often fail to acknowledge previous years’ data – for example, on average two communal incidents per day in 2011-13. By the same yardstick, crimes against dalits (108 per day in 2013) have reportedly fallen 52%.

In any event, it is surely no coincidence that, real or exaggerated, this narrative of rising intolerance has been peaking around elections. Just as in the earlier phase of reported church attacks bunched around the Delhi state election, so too now the crucial Bihar election is undoubtedly a catalyst. The bigger question is, for whom? For no one side or party has a monopoly on such tactics.

Because this government is, above all, a Narendra Modi government, a big part of the narrative focusses on whether the PM is doing enough to tackle the situation. Although he has spoken against communalism on several occasions, inside and outside Parliament, the debate still rages whether he has spoken out enough, whether he has spoken swiftly enough, and whether he has done enough.

Some commentators and public intellectuals supportive of the PM have questioned the idea that he ought to speak out more, concluding that if he were to react to every alleged or real communal incident, he would have time for little else. They are convinced his opponents have succeeded in setting him up, and that he must devote himself to real issues of governance rather than perceptions of rising intolerance.

Nevertheless, even some of his staunchest supporters are now joining the chorus that he ought to say and do more. At the very least, they recognise the power of perception for earning or dissipating political capital.

In fact, many insiders are even acknowledging the damage caused by the irresponsible statements and actions of some of their fellow travellers. This has been apparently addressed by what is said to be an internal ticking off, behind closed doors. But was it real or just a rap on the knuckles, and whether it will actually lead to contrition, only time will tell.

The writer is a BJD Lok Sabha MP. Views are personal.

Perceptions matter: It’s no coincidence that the narrative of rising intolerance has been peaking around elections - TOI Blogs

 

[Samudra Manthan]

looks like even @bombermax got banned..

He will be back one way or another.

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An Action Replay of Vajpayee's Times
Arjun Sampath in Tamil Nadu must be the happiest man now. He would never have imagined his name in the front page of the largest English newspaper in India. But he has made to its front page with his one liner: “Those who eat beef should go to Pakistan”. Sampath heads a one-man outfit called Indu Makkal Katchi (Hindu people’s party) — a letterhead entity. Now, thanks to the leading English daily, he is one of the intolerant Hindu faces in India and outside. See how things have moved in the last few weeks to make non-entities the new and dark faces of India.

Dadri to Blackening

In a barbaric act, a Muslim in Dadri village in UP was lynched because he was believed to have slaughtered a cow. Look at the facts and how the discourse went. UP is ruled by the ‘secular’ Samajwadi Party led by Mulayam Singh Yadav whose son Akhilesh Yadav is the Chief Minister. No one blames the UP government or questions Mulayam or Akhilesh. ‘India’s plurality in danger under Modi’, charge the media, opposition and scores of Sahitya Akademi award winning writers, whose target is Modi. A month before, in Karnataka ruled by the ‘secular’ Congress, someone, who the media regards as rationalist, was killed. No one blamed Siddaramaiah or Sonia. Hindu forces are responsible, said the very intellectuals, media and opposition again all pointing at Modi. Even earlier, a rationalist was killed in Maharashtra when Congress was in power in the State and also at the Centre. No one questioned the Maharashtra Chief Minister or the Congress president. But, by pre-written script, Hindu forces were held responsible. A few days back Sudheendra Kulkarni, a well-intentioned peace activist, who has found a new role as interlocutor between Pakistan and India, was blackened with ink by Shiv Sena. The whole ‘secular’ brigade began shouting ‘intolerance’ — read Modi — rules India. Couple of days back, two persons from some unknown ‘Hindu Sena’ blackened the face of a Kashmir MLA who hosted a beef party. On the very day, the Shiv Sena stormed into the BCCI office to scuttle Indo-Pak cricket series talk. The media screamed, ‘Hate squad attack blackens the face of Indian democracy’.

Target Modi

Imagine instead of spilling ink on beef party leaders, the Hindu Sena idiots had held a pork party. There would have been riots and slaughter in streets. Beef party only spills ink. Pork would spill blood. But in secular India’s grammar, spilling a bottle of ink is more violent now than spilling barrels of blood. Recall how, when Pakistani terrorists had spilled drums of Indian blood in railway stations, roads and hotels of Mumbai, the seculars, media, intellectuals appealed for calm and held candlelight processions to spread peace and harmony!

And what do these worthies do now? Spreading peace? Harmony? Their aim is not harmony. Their target is Modi. For that, they look for the most intolerant faces — however miniature — to lift them to the front pages. They yell, “Modi must speak.” “Why is he silent”, they ask. Did they ask Sonia Gandhi or Manmohan Singh to speak on why the rationalist was killed in Karnataka and Maharashtra under the Congress? Did they question Mulayam or Akhilesh on Dadri? When did the Central government become responsible for individual incidents of law and order in states — a State subject?

Thanks to the media’s propensities for sensation and the exciting subject of cricket mixed with nation’s traditional rival Pakistan, the Shiv Sena got the high visibility it lacked for years, over the BJP and Modi. Anyone aspiring to be in headlines today has to speak against beef or throw ink on beef eaters or on their supporters. If a novice Arjun Sampath knows today how to make it to the front page of the largest English daily in India, why will not veteran Shiv Sena —seeking to regain relevance having lost the Hindu mind space to Modi? Why will not some Hindu Sena — an outfit existing only on letterhead? Why not others who would not see their outfit’s name in print or the idiot box otherwise? Are all of them Hindutva forces? With their potency limited to spilling ink, they crave to hit headlines. The media, short of news, sees them as resources. Poor things, how else to run 24x7 channels and fill news columns in-between ads in 60-page papers? The not-so-honest news is exported. On October 17, 2015, The New York Times carried a report titled “Indian Writers Return Awards to Protest Government Silence on Violence”. How else to undo the good work Modi has done to repair the image of India abroad?

Repeat of 1998-99?

Now it is time for some history. Cut back to 1998-99 when Vajpayee was the PM. ‘Christian nuns raped in MP and Orissa’. ‘Social worker Graham Staines burnt alive’. ‘Hindu pogrom against Christians’. What was the truth? The Wadhwa Commission, which inquired into the Staines murder, thrashed the secularists and the media for their lies. Arun Shourie has captured it brilliantly in his article on the Wadhwa report. Justice Wadhwa deals with some of these incidents. The first was the alleged rape of Sister Jacqueline Mary on February 3, 1999. Wadhwa cited the media reports like ‘Orissa nun raped in moveing car by men in saris’ and pointed out that relying on the words of a pastor of the Church, the media highlighted it ‘as a planned attack on the Church’ and saw the ‘role of communal forces’. Wadhwa also noted the media quoting teachers of a Christian convent as saying, “Do not treat this as an isolated incident”, “a communal conspiracy is suspected to be behind the rape.” Shourie says it was indeed a communal conspiracy not to rape but to fabricate to fix Hindu outfits. What was the judicial finding? Justice Wadhwa concluded: ‘Investigations revealed that what Sister Mary said in the FIR was not true’; that it was a ‘made up story’; that there was ‘in fact no rape of Sister Mary’. Wadhwa noted that B B Panda, Orissa’s Director General of Police stated under oath that the ‘rape of the nun’ case, projected and highlighted all over the world as an attack on Christians was not true — ‘the case turned out to be false.’ Within four days of the fabricated rape news, on Feb 7, 1999, another media report appeared. Two children, aged 10 and 19, were found murdered, a third had sustained injuries. Newspapers came up with the headings, ‘Two Christians killed, one injured in Orissa,’ ‘Two tribal Christians done to death in Kandhamal’. “This incident again attracted a great deal of publicity in the media, including electronic media,” writes Justice Wadhwa. He found that ultimately “investigation revealed that the crime was committed by a relative of the victims who was also a Christian”. On Graham Staines murder, Justice Wadhwa concluded that Staines was not just social worker, but, he was involved in illegal conversions of illiterate tribals, which they resisted and if the Orissa anti-conversion law had been enforced, Staines would never have indulged in conversions in tribal areas — which led to his killing by tribals. At about that time, news of rape of three Christian nuns in Jabhua in MP by Hindu outfits shook the nation and the entire world. The US ambassador even protested breaking all norms. Finally it turned out that the 24 persons who were involved in the rape were drunken dacoits who had set out to rob and 12 of them were Christians and the rest Bhil tribals. Space constraint draws the curtains on further expedition into other similar cases.

Is what is happening now when Modi is the PM not an action replay of what happened when Atal Bihari Vajpayee was in power? Are not the media, the seculars and opposition doing today against Modi what they were doing to Vajpayee 15 years back?

Postscript: The President’s statement that there is squeeze on dissent space is headlined by the media. But for the media headlining the likes of Arjun Sampath, Shiv Sena and Hindu Sena even the President’s statement itself will not be on the front page.

Narendra Modi and the National Discourse-I -The New Indian Express

 

[ranjeet]

Will find way to include Muslims in existing quotas

 

[JanjaWeed]

https://twitter.com/x/status/659594911394742272

Like this reply..

@sray1104: @NewsX Holy crap, more intolerance...more #AwardsWapsi #YoAwardeesSoFarzi !!

 

[SwAggeR]

He will be back one way or another.

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An Action Replay of Vajpayee's Times
Arjun Sampath in Tamil Nadu must be the happiest man now. He would never have imagined his name in the front page of the largest English newspaper in India. But he has made to its front page with his one liner: “Those who eat beef should go to Pakistan”. Sampath heads a one-man outfit called Indu Makkal Katchi (Hindu people’s party) — a letterhead entity. Now, thanks to the leading English daily, he is one of the intolerant Hindu faces in India and outside. See how things have moved in the last few weeks to make non-entities the new and dark faces of India.

Dadri to Blackening

In a barbaric act, a Muslim in Dadri village in UP was lynched because he was believed to have slaughtered a cow. Look at the facts and how the discourse went. UP is ruled by the ‘secular’ Samajwadi Party led by Mulayam Singh Yadav whose son Akhilesh Yadav is the Chief Minister. No one blames the UP government or questions Mulayam or Akhilesh. ‘India’s plurality in danger under Modi’, charge the media, opposition and scores of Sahitya Akademi award winning writers, whose target is Modi. A month before, in Karnataka ruled by the ‘secular’ Congress, someone, who the media regards as rationalist, was killed. No one blamed Siddaramaiah or Sonia. Hindu forces are responsible, said the very intellectuals, media and opposition again all pointing at Modi. Even earlier, a rationalist was killed in Maharashtra when Congress was in power in the State and also at the Centre. No one questioned the Maharashtra Chief Minister or the Congress president. But, by pre-written script, Hindu forces were held responsible. A few days back Sudheendra Kulkarni, a well-intentioned peace activist, who has found a new role as interlocutor between Pakistan and India, was blackened with ink by Shiv Sena. The whole ‘secular’ brigade began shouting ‘intolerance’ — read Modi — rules India. Couple of days back, two persons from some unknown ‘Hindu Sena’ blackened the face of a Kashmir MLA who hosted a beef party. On the very day, the Shiv Sena stormed into the BCCI office to scuttle Indo-Pak cricket series talk. The media screamed, ‘Hate squad attack blackens the face of Indian democracy’.

Target Modi

Imagine instead of spilling ink on beef party leaders, the Hindu Sena idiots had held a pork party. There would have been riots and slaughter in streets. Beef party only spills ink. Pork would spill blood. But in secular India’s grammar, spilling a bottle of ink is more violent now than spilling barrels of blood. Recall how, when Pakistani terrorists had spilled drums of Indian blood in railway stations, roads and hotels of Mumbai, the seculars, media, intellectuals appealed for calm and held candlelight processions to spread peace and harmony!

And what do these worthies do now? Spreading peace? Harmony? Their aim is not harmony. Their target is Modi. For that, they look for the most intolerant faces — however miniature — to lift them to the front pages. They yell, “Modi must speak.” “Why is he silent”, they ask. Did they ask Sonia Gandhi or Manmohan Singh to speak on why the rationalist was killed in Karnataka and Maharashtra under the Congress? Did they question Mulayam or Akhilesh on Dadri? When did the Central government become responsible for individual incidents of law and order in states — a State subject?

Thanks to the media’s propensities for sensation and the exciting subject of cricket mixed with nation’s traditional rival Pakistan, the Shiv Sena got the high visibility it lacked for years, over the BJP and Modi. Anyone aspiring to be in headlines today has to speak against beef or throw ink on beef eaters or on their supporters. If a novice Arjun Sampath knows today how to make it to the front page of the largest English daily in India, why will not veteran Shiv Sena —seeking to regain relevance having lost the Hindu mind space to Modi? Why will not some Hindu Sena — an outfit existing only on letterhead? Why not others who would not see their outfit’s name in print or the idiot box otherwise? Are all of them Hindutva forces? With their potency limited to spilling ink, they crave to hit headlines. The media, short of news, sees them as resources. Poor things, how else to run 24x7 channels and fill news columns in-between ads in 60-page papers? The not-so-honest news is exported. On October 17, 2015, The New York Times carried a report titled “Indian Writers Return Awards to Protest Government Silence on Violence”. How else to undo the good work Modi has done to repair the image of India abroad?

Repeat of 1998-99?

Now it is time for some history. Cut back to 1998-99 when Vajpayee was the PM. ‘Christian nuns raped in MP and Orissa’. ‘Social worker Graham Staines burnt alive’. ‘Hindu pogrom against Christians’. What was the truth? The Wadhwa Commission, which inquired into the Staines murder, thrashed the secularists and the media for their lies. Arun Shourie has captured it brilliantly in his article on the Wadhwa report. Justice Wadhwa deals with some of these incidents. The first was the alleged rape of Sister Jacqueline Mary on February 3, 1999. Wadhwa cited the media reports like ‘Orissa nun raped in moveing car by men in saris’ and pointed out that relying on the words of a pastor of the Church, the media highlighted it ‘as a planned attack on the Church’ and saw the ‘role of communal forces’. Wadhwa also noted the media quoting teachers of a Christian convent as saying, “Do not treat this as an isolated incident”, “a communal conspiracy is suspected to be behind the rape.” Shourie says it was indeed a communal conspiracy not to rape but to fabricate to fix Hindu outfits. What was the judicial finding? Justice Wadhwa concluded: ‘Investigations revealed that what Sister Mary said in the FIR was not true’; that it was a ‘made up story’; that there was ‘in fact no rape of Sister Mary’. Wadhwa noted that B B Panda, Orissa’s Director General of Police stated under oath that the ‘rape of the nun’ case, projected and highlighted all over the world as an attack on Christians was not true — ‘the case turned out to be false.’ Within four days of the fabricated rape news, on Feb 7, 1999, another media report appeared. Two children, aged 10 and 19, were found murdered, a third had sustained injuries. Newspapers came up with the headings, ‘Two Christians killed, one injured in Orissa,’ ‘Two tribal Christians done to death in Kandhamal’. “This incident again attracted a great deal of publicity in the media, including electronic media,” writes Justice Wadhwa. He found that ultimately “investigation revealed that the crime was committed by a relative of the victims who was also a Christian”. On Graham Staines murder, Justice Wadhwa concluded that Staines was not just social worker, but, he was involved in illegal conversions of illiterate tribals, which they resisted and if the Orissa anti-conversion law had been enforced, Staines would never have indulged in conversions in tribal areas — which led to his killing by tribals. At about that time, news of rape of three Christian nuns in Jabhua in MP by Hindu outfits shook the nation and the entire world. The US ambassador even protested breaking all norms. Finally it turned out that the 24 persons who were involved in the rape were drunken dacoits who had set out to rob and 12 of them were Christians and the rest Bhil tribals. Space constraint draws the curtains on further expedition into other similar cases.

Is what is happening now when Modi is the PM not an action replay of what happened when Atal Bihari Vajpayee was in power? Are not the media, the seculars and opposition doing today against Modi what they were doing to Vajpayee 15 years back?

Postscript: The President’s statement that there is squeeze on dissent space is headlined by the media. But for the media headlining the likes of Arjun Sampath, Shiv Sena and Hindu Sena even the President’s statement itself will not be on the front page.

Narendra Modi and the National Discourse-I -The New Indian Express

Explosive article , shredding sickulars to pieces.

Thanks for the post.

 

[ranjeet]

Upholding Secularism, Pluralism and Free Speech: A JNU Manual | IndiaFactsIndiaFacts

 

[JanjaWeed]

Explosive article , shredding sickulars to pieces.

Thanks for the post.

Won't make any difference to these shameless bunch. They'll still get their space & air time...including those who have been accused of casting couches. Sad really...