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[IndoCarib]

Exactly, they actually can't be so stupid to make it so obvious, by showing not only the details of the donor publically, but also by accept such a large ammount at once.



And that's the real issue here, BJP was not able to counter the AAP and Kejriwal on real issues, they didn't even took on these obvious things like how AAP will fund the freebies and how realistic all that is. I'm sure they will bring out their manifesto in the last minute only, when it's too late to actually compare with the AAP manifesto and to understand the differences.



It was this Gopal Goel that admitted they didn't found evidence for wrong doing last year when they investigated, but investigated NOW (right before the elections) again and allegedly found something. How convinient that they had the info for a year, couldn't find anything and now after some of them even joined BJP they found "something"?
You don't even need to add 1+1 to understand where this is coming from, or how credible AVAM is and the fact that AAP sacked him, just makes it more evident that he / they are trying to get back at AAP, which explains the timing.

Not really sure about that. I think BJP's negative campaigning is going to cost them. Looks like Amith Shah or Modi is not in control. Delhi's BJP unit wants to handover the elections to AK on a platter to get back at KB. But I dread to think of AK as the CM for 5 years.

 

[Echo_419]

The latest revelations are useless Delhi is polarised politically even at gully level ,both parties have loyal supporters.It will all be dependent on booth level ,the party which will bring more ppl out will win.

Codn't agree more but AAP's campaign is a bit more strong than BJP's

 

[JanjaWeed]

Explanation for what question though? Do they know about the company and it's merits? Doesn't look that way, at least they can't give a simple answer to that. But is the donation itself clear and according to the laws? Should be, as the name of the donor and all details reportedly were posted on their website.
For the earlier they look bad of course, since it's not enough for a party to post the names, but also to openly reject donations, if the donor doesn't look clean. But that's only a moral hit if the rest remains legal and according to laws. It actually even shows that the way of the AAP by posting the donations in such a transperant manner, gives the public (but also your opponents) way to fact check things. That actually should be mandatory for all political parties!

AAP has set itself a high moral grounds & characterized as ethically superior compared to other political parties. They have been surviving by labeling every other opponent corrupt & dishonest. So it's only fair for AAP to stay above all suspicions!
On the face of it, they claim to be transparent. They put all their donation details on their website & claim to be transparent. By merely putting the donation at the website doesn't mean the transaction is above board, No one can search that data by name or amount or by date. You need transaction IDs for that.. & it's not possible for an ordinary citizen to get that.

When you have so called donor companies who do no business, make no goods, sell nothing, carry bogus addresses, but exist only to donate huge chunks of money to a political party... what do you make out of it? One can simply conclude that AAP is merely a front for money laundering... & it's not surprising at all that AAP failed to provide any satisfactory explanation to some valid questions raised by AVAM!

 

[NKVD]

Not really sure about that. I think BJP's negative campaigning is going to cost them. Looks like Amith Shah or Modi is not in control. Delhi's BJP unit wants to handover the elections to AK on a platter to get back at KB. But I dread to think of AK as the CM for 5 years.

Meanwhile

 

[Echo_419]

Exactly, they actually can't be so stupid to make it so obvious, by showing not only the details of the donor publically, but also by accept such a large ammount at once.



And that's the real issue here, BJP was not able to counter the AAP and Kejriwal on real issues, they didn't even took on these obvious things like how AAP will fund the freebies and how realistic all that is. I'm sure they will bring out their manifesto in the last minute only, when it's too late to actually compare with the AAP manifesto and to understand the differences.



It was this Gopal Goel that admitted they didn't found evidence for wrong doing last year when they investigated, but investigated NOW (right before the elections) again and allegedly found something. How convinient that they had the info for a year, couldn't find anything and now after some of them even joined BJP they found "something"?
You don't even need to add 1+1 to understand where this is coming from, or how credible AVAM is and the fact that AAP sacked him, just makes it more evident that he / they are trying to get back at AAP, which explains the timing.

The situation on the ground is that AAP is slowly but surely taking the lead over the BJP if it hasn't already
& BJP's campaign is very negative & Uninspiring totally opposite of what AAP has been doing
Looks like AAP is gonna win My Delhi(Hope it's not true though)

 

[NKVD]

 

[Echo_419]

Meanwhile View attachment 189394

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F*ck Again,looks like AAP will win

 

[NKVD]

F*ck



F*ck Again,looks like AAP will win

Are you From Delhi

 

[lightoftruth]

Codn't agree more but AAP's campaign is a bit more strong than BJP's

Yup Kiran bedi is a disappointment when it comes to political campaigning ,anyways whoever is going to win is bound to fail .Arvind kejriwal if win will go back to dharna's blaming centre for his failure,if kiran bedi win she will be daily punch bag of AAP who will be on dharna's over undoable promises.

 

[LaBong]

@sancho @LaBong watch Times Now. Arnab is answering both of your questions....... The four companies don't exist..... at the given address, nothing is there as listed on AAP website. Either its a gaffe on part of AAP or a real fraud on part of them

@sancho @LaBong watch Times Now. Arnab is answering both of your questions....... The four companies don't exist..... at the given address, nothing is there as listed on AAP website. Either its a gaffe on part of AAP or a real fraud on part of them

Once again onus is on the bank before clearing those cheques. There is a thing called KYC(Know your customer), if those are ghost companies why were they allowed to issue cheques?

And since when Hawalas are done through cheques?

 

[Echo_419]

Yup Kiran bedi is a disappointment when it comes to political campaigning ,anyways whoever is going to win is bound to fail .Arvind kejriwal if win will go back to dharna's blaming centre for his failure,if kiran bedi win she will be daily punch bag of AAP who will be on dharna's over undoable promises.

Either way my city is F*cked but still let's hope for the best

Are you From Delhi

Ya Delhiwalla

 

[LaBong]

AAP has set itself a high moral grounds & characterized as ethically superior compared to other political parties. They have been surviving by labeling every other opponent corrupt & dishonest. So it's only fair for AAP to stay above all suspicions!
On the face of it, they claim to transparent. They put all their donation details on their website & claim to be transparent. By merely putting the donation at the website doesn't mean the transaction is above board, No one can search that data by name or amount or by date. You need transaction IDs for that.. & it's not possible for an ordinary citizen to get that.

When you have so called donor companies who do no business, make no goods, sell nothing, carry bogus addresses, but exist only to donate huge chunks of money to a political party... what do you make out of it? One can simply conclude that AAP is merely a front for money laundering... & it's not surprising at all that AAP failed to provide any satisfactory explanation to some valid questions raised by AVAM!

Money laundering using cheques and then publish the transactions to website for everyone to see?

If anything this 'scam' only proves that AAP's model of listing all transaction in public domain is working as the shady donations are coming forth for everyone to see and investigate.

And just because AAP claims itself to be honest, that doesn't give a free ride for everyone else! Being honest is a prerequisite of an politician, it's sad that only AAP is taking the challenge head on.

 

[NKVD]

@Echo_419 "Blast from the past"

 

[Tridibans]

Once again onus is on the bank before clearing those cheques. There is a thing called KYC(Know your customer), if those are ghost companies why were they allowed to issue cheques?

And since when Hawalas are done through cheques?

Actually these days its pretty easy to bypass KYC norms (Myself being a banker ). Thing is , as a shell company, most fraudsters do the "dodgy" transactions within the first few days and that too in small amounts (less than croes) to bypass Anti Money Laundering cells (Our bank has Indias' largest in Jaipur). Because, soon they are caught (fake KYC/ transactions, etc) and the accounts are either put on hold or closed.

In todays day and age, Banks cannot prevent a Current Account holder to wait for the background checks to be completed before they can use their accounts.

And for the banks, its impossible to do all the veryfying (that too in some cases) before actually opening the account.

 

[sancho]

@sancho @LaBong watch Times Now. Arnab is answering both of your questions....... The four companies don't exist..... at the given address, nothing is there as listed on AAP website. Either its a gaffe on part of AAP or a real fraud on part of them

As said above, the question on the companies background is one issue for the AAP, but only if official investigations on the company shows wrong doing, you can blame AAP. Till then, they only have to answer if the transaction itself was legal.

Not really sure about that. I think BJP's negative campaigning is going to cost them

I see it the same, if they had actually taken on AAP with a proper candidate and a clear vision for Delhi, as well as attacked AAP on their weakpoints, they should stand much stronger at this point. But the inconsistent way of they went, has weakend them more than it helped them.

AAP has set itself a high moral grounds & characterized as ethically superior compared to other political parties. They have been surviving by labeling every other opponent corrupt & dishonest. So it's only fair for AAP to stay above all suspicions!

Hehe, they did and it's of course only fair if the opponents points to wrong doings, but this case screams fake and created by the BJP from all sides and that only to out of the hurt feelings that AAP had this high moral grounds. At the end however, allegations are not enough to hit the moral ground. Where is the evidence, why no official investigations, why no complains...?

By merely putting the donation at the website doesn't mean the transaction is above board

Of course not, but it makes them traceable and neither BJP nor Congress is ready to put their donors up in public and traceable right? In fact, the first black money cases even revealed names of BJP donors, that nobody would had known about, if these investigations wouldn't be done, since they are not published by the party.

When you have so called donor companies who do no business, make no goods, sell nothing, carry bogus addresses, but exist only to donate huge chunks of money to a political party... what do you make out of it?

That somebody has to investigate it and who is in government and could do it? So unless investigations were done and wrong doing proven, it simply doesn't matter what the BJP, you or me make out of our gut feeling.
Could you deny at this point, that an opponent party / their supporters are not behind these donations, to hit APP? So at this point, there is simply nothing than allegations of a questionable group and conveniently they came out right before the elections.