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[salimpheku]

Its JD(U) which is ruling bihar. BJP is the junior partner. Its Nitish kumar who calls the shots. Not Sushil Modi.

If anything its JD(U) that showed the huge chinks in BJP armor.

Maybe you can take that reality check again.

And you got this information from where?
Even if what you say is true, how does that matter? BJP has the Dep CM and a host of other ministries which they can use to further their agenda.

Of course Shah tried to get back at patel. Patel ensured shah lost the home ministry of Gujarat and forced him into Jail and then into exile, Shah tried to do the same to patel and lost.

BJP has already demonstrated that it does not have what it takes to play CONgress "brand" of politics. Dr. Swmay could have done it, only BJP has chosen to ignore him rather than use him to their advantage. Its poor politics by any standard.

Meh - You are only partially right. BJP has started to get back at these people. Wait & watch, Unless both of us don't get banned, we might just get to see BJP plans first hand and discuss.

LOL.... if anything, BJP has provided a platform for ahmed patel to show to the world why he is still matters and has just given him a lease of political life.

If politics is a game, then CONGress just won this round.

I was talking about BJP giving Swamy a RS seat.
Coming to Cong & Ahmed Patel, the round may look like it has gone to Cong but wait for few months to pass judgement - Case in point Bihar & Delhi.

If there are only winners in politics, then ahmed patel is that winner. You seem to have some difficulty accepting this reality.

Debate on pdf is not politics so a debate needs to be devoid of hypocrisy.

Exactly, Ahmed Patel is winning of yesterday's battle. Where did I say otherwise. Quote where I have said Ahmed Patel is not a winner of yesterday's battle?!!
Is there some problem with comprehension? Read what I have posted. I only talked about Cong chances.
Don't 'get messed up' buddy.

My posts always has Zero emotions, which is why I am always able to call a spade a spade while you find the need to beat around the bush and give a "wink".

BJP has demonstrated an ability to learn from its mistakes and that is what runs to its advantage. Which is why I remain hopeful that they will learn from this defeat too and recognize the value of Dr. Swamy in taking down the powerful.

CONgress in gujarat is a pathetic strawman so I will ignore it.

For now , AMit shah's plane to demoralize the opposition has failed and has in fact backfired. How it recovers from it is another story for another day. But as long as one continues to be in derail, one will not learn anything from this debacle.

Completely wrong.
Sankar Singh is out of Congress. Do you think he just quit on his own? Do you think Amit Shah making sure Vaghela quitting Cong party is to put spanner in Ahmed Patel's RS re-election? Don't confuse cause & effect.

Read my earlier post which said that BJP is luck that the opposition does not have any tall leaders.

Stop throwing up strawmen to deflect.

You are free to spin fantasy of magnificent victories in your head and credit yourself with utter brilliance for discovering them. I am seriously not interested in such self felicitation.

AIADMK already has a STABLE govt. with full majority in TN. AIADMK has 134 seats while BJP has 0 seats ..... what are you smoking ?

Dr. Swamy has done his bit in ensuring BJP's election victory. There is no need for me to spell it out on how his court cases has demolished CONgress credibility and how is consistent support for Ram Mandir has strengthened the Hindutva movement. Both of which helped the BJP.

BJP has failed itself for not using Dr. Swamy to take down the CONgress high command. And the end result if there for all to see.

Yeah, it's LUCK that the one leader opposition could throw at BJP has joined BJP. Nitish joined BJP when he 'could' have had a chance to become PM for opposition because of his love for Modi, right?
Similarly, the one leader who could give them a minor fight in Gujarat, Vaghela also left Congress - Again it's all by 'chance' and BJP's good luck, right?
It's also by 'chance' & 'luck' both Naidu & Jagan are on good terms with BJP.
It's also by 'luck' that KCR, Patnaik would rather align with BJP than Congress.

Only genuine opposition to BJP right now is Mamta & it's not by 'chance' that is the case.

For enough 'payment', even Mamta would not side with Congress. What you look as chances and coincidences are there by design.

Coming to TN, it's not how many seats who has, it's about whether BJP will be part of the government soon, or not - Again, you won't have to wait for a long time. That BJP is running the TN govt is the worst kept secret in Chennai. You thinking TN has a stable govt makes me to believe you are smoking something serious.

Regarding Swamy, instead of listening to me, why don't you read his opinion on BJP, Modi & Co? Why did Modi & Shah make him a RS MP? Why is he given such a free hand by BJP? You think like a idealist. Swamy is a seasoned politician who knows the long game.
So, why should I trust you when Swamy himself says he is happy with BJP & Modi?

 

[Bibo]

And you got this information from where?
Even if what you say is true, how does that matter? BJP has the Dep CM and a host of other ministries which they can use to further their agenda.

You are the one who was claiming the BJP is ruling bihar. I just corrected you that its JDU which is doing that.

Meh - You are only partially right. BJP has started to get back at these people. Wait & watch, Unless both of us don't get banned, we might just get to see BJP plans first hand and discuss.

Its a bit late in the day to do that. By now few of them should have been in jail or on the way there.

I was talking about BJP giving Swamy a RS seat.
Coming to Cong & Ahmed Patel, the round may look like it has gone to Cong but wait for few months to pass judgement - Case in point Bihar & Delhi.

So best you can do is speculate about the future. Also called day dreaming. Sure. Lets all do that.

Exactly, Ahmed Patel is winning of yesterday's battle. Where did I say otherwise. Quote where I have said Ahmed Patel is not a winner of yesterday's battle?!!

Is there some problem with comprehension? Read what I have posted. I only talked about Cong chances.
Don't 'get messed up' buddy.

You seem to think that you "won" the "messed up" debate. I just let it slide because you realized your mistake and it was not worth correcting you at every point. "messed up" continue to mean confused irrespective of how you used it.

Potential rapists do not "mess up". Those who think that are male chauvinists. Get it ?

Completely wrong.
Sankar Singh is out of Congress. Do you think he just quit on his own? Do you think Amit Shah making sure Vaghela quitting Cong party is to put spanner in Ahmed Patel's RS re-election? Don't confuse cause & effect.

So ? Its the RESULT that matter. Not how smart you think you are and what fancy games you play.

Yeah, it's LUCK that the one leader opposition could throw at BJP has joined BJP. Nitish joined BJP when he 'could' have had a chance to become PM for opposition because of his love for Modi, right?
Similarly, the one leader who could give them a minor fight in Gujarat, Vaghela also left Congress - Again it's all by 'chance' and BJP's good luck, right?

Nitish is a political gadfly who has less mass appeal than even Lalu prasad yadav ......... He was NEVER a "tall leader" even though Lutyens Media did try to convince everybody that he was the next best thing to slice bread.

THAT is why he has to align with Lalu or BJP to ensure his political survival.

Same goes for Vaghela who has no mass base in Guajrat. Even with Vaghela , the CONgress in Gujarat had no chance. His value was limited to defeating Ahmed patel.

Coming to TN, it's not how many seats who has, it's about whether BJP will be part of the government soon, or not - Again, you won't have to wait for a long time. That BJP is running the TN govt is the worst kept secret in Chennai. You thinking TN has a stable govt makes me to believe you are smoking something serious.

TN has a leadership vacuum, not a political vacuum. BJP is not even a serious player there. Its only leverage is the "caged parrot", nothing more, nothing less.

Regarding Swamy, instead of listening to me, why don't you read his opinion on BJP, Modi & Co? Why did Modi & Shah make him a RS MP? Why is he given such a free hand by BJP? You think like a idealist. Swamy is a seasoned politician who knows the long game.
So, why should I trust you when Swamy himself says he is happy with BJP & Modi?

BJP has not "given" Dr. Swamy a free hand. Dr. Swamy has chose to be a free sprit inside the BJP. BJP did not get to have a say in it.

What has his happiness in the BJP got to do with anything ? How is that even relevant ? At this point, its the BJP that needs him, he does not need the BJP.

 

[salimpheku]

You are the one who was claiming the BJP is ruling bihar. I just corrected you that its JDU which is doing that.

Are you bloody stupid? You seriously can't be this stupid, right, right? Meh - who cares!

So best you can do is speculate about the future. Also called day dreaming. Sure. Lets all do that.

Again, you seriously can't be this stupid. Swamy is already in RS, elected by BJP.

You seem to think that you "won" the "messed up" debate. I just let it slide because you realized your mistake and it was not worth correcting you at every point. "messed up" continue to mean confused irrespective of how you used it.

Potential rapists do not "mess up". Those who think that are male chauvinists. Get it ?

Seriously, this is not even funny anymore. No one can be this stupid. You are one 'messed up' dude.

So ? Its the RESULT that matter. Not how smart you think you are and what fancy games you play.

Vaghela didn't com out of Congress to defeat Ahmed Patel's chances of RS seat.
The target is Gujarat elections in few months and LS elections in 2019.

Nitish is a political gadfly who has less mass appeal than even Lalu prasad yadav ......... He was NEVER a "tall leader" even though Lutyens Media did try to convince everybody that he was the next best thing to slice bread.

THAT is why he has to align with Lalu or BJP to ensure his political survival.

Same goes for Vaghela who has no mass base in Guajrat. Even with Vaghela , the CONgress in Gujarat had no chance. His value was limited to defeating Ahmed patel.

Oh yeah, from heavy weights who were the only chances for Congress to no body's Nitish & Vaghela has fallen so fast. I can't even believe I am having this argument!
buddy, read carefully. What BJP is doing is to get all the good leaders to their side for 2019. You see BJP is not taking any chances for 2019. There is no Jay Prakash Narayan or VP Singh left for Ghatbhandhan because BJP is already doing deals with these kinds of leaders.

TN has a leadership vacuum, not a political vacuum. BJP is not even a serious player there. Its only leverage is the "caged parrot", nothing more, nothing less.

Where did I say BJP is a serious player in TN? All I said is BJP will come to power with AIADMK. And don't downplay the 'leadership vaccum'. Countries have been destroyed for this same reasons, Political parties are nothing. Do you seriously think AIADMK will survive 2019 without a leader?
That's what BJP will bring to AIADMK, leadership.

BJP has not "given" Dr. Swamy a free hand. Dr. Swamy has chose to be a free sprit inside the BJP. BJP did not get to have a say in it.

What has his happiness in the BJP got to do with anything ? How is that even relevant ? At this point, its the BJP that needs him, he does not need the BJP.

Care to quote any of Swamy's statements that says he has not been given a free hand? One quote please. What he needs, he gets it. What you assume Swamy needs is not what he needs.
You are in too much of a hurry without understanding the politics behind it.

 

[salimpheku]

https://twitter.com/x/status/886784394077364224

Yup..

 

[salimpheku]

https://twitter.com/x/status/894982858527330304

So, any outrage seculars?

 

[takeiteasy]

After the failure of RSS in their dream to establish in Kerala state, RSS resorted to propaganda against this secular, liberal and progressive state. Now, RSS and Gau Putras never expected that Keralites are aware of the RSS terrorist's and their modus operandi.

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=1558582007538017

 

[salimpheku]

After the failure of RSS in their dream to establish in Kerala state, RSS resorted to propaganda against this secular, liberal and progressive state. Now, RSS and Gau Putras never expected that Keralites are aware of the RSS terrorist's and their modus operandi.

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=1558582007538017

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One Akhlaq and the liberals ran to US, UK, Canada & Co says India is intolerant
BUT
Eighteen Hindus butchered by seculars in last 13 months in kerala does not deserve any attention from anyone.

Secularism at it's best.

BJP & RSS will triumph even in kerala, jo ukhaad na hai ukhaad lo.

 

[ashok321]

Republic TV's Arnab Goswami learns hard way why he mustn't 'insult Malayalis'

http://www.jantakareporter.com/india/arnab-goswami-malayalis/141778/

BJP-RSS trying to kill Rahul: Lalu :


EVMs to have VVPATs in Gujarat assembly polls: Election Commission to Supreme Court jantakareporter.com/india/evms-vvp…

Asaduddin Owaisi dares RSS to challenge Modi on snapping India-China bilateral trade #JantaKaReporter jantakareporter.com/india/asaduddi…

 

[IndoCarib]

What Makes Kerala No.1 !?

 

[ashok321]

Ahmed Patel owned Central Hall of Parliament :

 

[noksss]

Yogi's affluent and rich family

https://www.facebook.com/

What Makes Kerala No.1 !?
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Here is another gem from the intellectual commie CM and our secular media

https://twitter.com/x/status/894850568774197249

 

[ashok321]

Hello right winger rats.
Where is your RSS, Nationalistic & jingoistic Modi on Kashmiri Pundits since 3 years?

Homeless: Kashmiri Pandits

Only putting money on 2 fronts?
Nothing for his own homeless Hindus?

Shame!

 

[noksss]

It's a big, big exhale for the Congress after top leader Ahmed Patel managed his re-election to the Rajya Sabha, but the victory is also a curious whodunit.

To win, Mr Patel, who is the top aide to Congress chief Sonia Gandhi, needed 44 votes. He got 44. It was that tight. And it wasn't without "a foreign hand" - his victory rests on cross-voting by a lawmaker from another party.

The Congress had 43 legislators that stuck by the party. Another two were disqualified after the Congress pointed out that they broke the rules by showing their ballot papers to a BJP representative - that was crucial for Mr Patel, because with their removal, the overall strength of the house was reduced and he needed fewer votes to win: 44.

43 came from within the Congress. So who cast the crucial 44th vote that ensured Mr Patel's triumph, however slender?

Sharad Pawar's Nationalist Congress Party or NCP has two legislators in Gujarat. The party has accepted that one of them defied its stated support for Mr Patel but insists the other stuck with party instructions and backed him.


If that is the case, then somebody is lying. Because the lone legislator in Gujarat from the Janata Dal (United) or JD-U, which is led by Bihar Chief Minister Nitish Kumar, says he too voted for Mr Patel. Which means Mr Patel should have got 45 votes, not 44. ''There is no reason to not believe me. Ahmed Patel is an old friend and I had assured him my vote. And I have voted for him," said the JDU lawmaker, Chhotu Vasava.
The big concern for the Congress is whether Mr Pawar's party ditched it with both legislators in fact voting against Mr Patel. Though Mr Pawar is a long-time ally of the Congress and was a member of its earlier national government, there are repeated reports of his growing understanding with the BJP. If that fructifies, it will blow another hole through the group of anti-BJP parties who are trying to find a way to work together ahead of the 2019 election. The first whack to that 18-party front came when Nitish Kumar exited it last month to hitch his wagon to the BJP; they now run Bihar together.

What could allow Mr Pawar plausible deniability is that a BJP lawmaker, Nalin Kotadiya, claims that he voted for the Congress in a revolt. His party has denied his pronouncement, alleging that he voted for its candidate but is changing his stand for public consumption because his community, the Patels or Patidars, are angry with the BJP and would turn on him if he admits he stood by the party.

The Patidars, traditionally loyal to the BJP, have been galvanized by young leader Hardik Patel, 24, against the party because it has not succeeded in including them among the groups that get reservation quotas which guarantee them state jobs and seats in colleges.

Mr Patel's re-election followed a month-long drama which included his party's lawmakers being sequestered for a few days at a Bengaluru resort to prevent them from being poached by the BJP, whose chief, Amit Shah, was accused of scheming big-time to orchestrate Mr Patel's defeat, which would have been a plus-size loss of face for the Congress ahead of the state election in December.

http://www.ndtv.com/india-news/rajy...-its-a-big-deal-1735366?pfrom=home-topstories

Looks like Amith shah would have won had the 2 MLA's not disqualified but its still happy to see when the grand old party has to put all its might to just win one RS seat

 

[ashok321]

https://twitter.com/x/status/895195611233910784

https://twitter.com/x/status/895245103370870784

https://twitter.com/x/status/895233922191073280

https://twitter.com/x/status/895121634050187265

https://twitter.com/x/status/895113757176627201

Tata defended himself vigorously too against the expose during Nira Radia tapes.

https://twitter.com/x/status/895099182754676736

 

[ashok321]

https://twitter.com/x/status/895103771331645440

https://twitter.com/x/status/895048306405068800

https://twitter.com/x/status/895155568775766016

https://twitter.com/x/status/895273236635811841

Modi is a master of deception:

https://twitter.com/x/status/895212912222101504

BJP = Badmash party of India:

Modi ne Niku kharida hai...JDU nahi...

Upset with Nitish, JD-U MLA votes for Ahmed Patel in Gujarat Rajya Sabha polls

10 lessons I learnt from Ahmed Patel Vs Amit Shah Gujarat Rajya Sabha polls drama