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[padamchen]

Just two words

Rahul Gandhi

Interesting

So the confidence rests on one anagram

TINA

 

[Soumitra]

BJP will not get another term.

Not in this generation, till the memory of this mandate betrayal lasts.

There is no betrayal of the Mandate. People vooted for a decisive goovt with a hindutva base. That is what is being given.

If you feel that people feel betrayal of the mandate then how do you explain repeated wins in election after election?

The people who are crying right now are NOT the people who vote for BJP.

 

[JanjaWeed]

Mission 400: BJP Sets Target For Next Lok Sabha Polls

http://www.ndtv.com/india-news/mission-400-bjp-sets-target-for-next-lok-sabha-polls-1687325

Ambitious target. it's good to see the buildup for 2019 has already started. There's a chance that BJP may not be able to repeat its huge success of 2014 in Bihar / UP! This expansion drive will surely compensate, should BJP fail to retain some seats it won last time around!

 

[padamchen]

There is no betrayal of the Mandate. People vooted for a decisive goovt with a hindutva base. That is what is being given.

If you feel that people feel betrayal of the mandate then how do you explain repeated wins in election after election?

The people who are crying right now are NOT the people who vote for BJP.

I'm not crying. I don't cry. I'm seething.

And yes I voted for BJP.

The Hindutva they drummed up and the Hindutva we got are very different beasts.

Two times in two generations.

They will not get a third chance.

 

[Soumitra]

Interesting

So the confidence rests on one anagram

TINA

I wanted to use TINA but 2 words were enough.

But it is not only TINA factor which is a big factor but also the overall popularity of Narendra Modi and the connect with the people regarding the work he has done.

BJP was always clear about their Hindutva agenda. If the opposers say that BJP is using Hindutva then they have falied to understand the mandate

 

[padamchen]

I wanted to use TINA but 2 words were enough.

But it is not only TINA factor which is a big factor but also the overall popularity of Narendra Modi and the connect with the people regarding the work he has done.

BJP was always clear about their Hindutva agenda. If the opposers say that BJP is using Hindutva then they have falied to understand the mandate

Please read about Hindutva on the BJP website. On the RSS website.

Compare it to the Hindutva we are getting.

Let me make it clear.

I am not Hindu. But I am a pretty radical believer in the idea of cultural Hindutva.

Which belongs to all people whose blood is mixed with this soil.

And there are millions of Indians who are not Hindu who believe similarly.

The moment you go Hindu on us, within the narrower confines of only practicing Hindus and their values and sensibilities, you alienate these millions.

And you make them extremely anti you.

If that's how you want things to develop, bring it on.

You will see the results in our lifetimes.

 

[Soumitra]

The Hindutva they drummed up and the Hindutva we got are very different beasts.

I am curious. What is the difference in the Hindutva they drumed up and the hindutva you got?

Modi spoke about cow protection during election and you got that

Modi spoke about UCC - The law commision is working on it + we can expect verdicts in Supreme Court against Triple Talaq and Polygamy. Trust me for 90% of the hindutva supporters these two are the major parts of UCC. Once these are done they will consider UCC promise as fulfilled

Modi Spoke about Ram Temple - SC asked to go for out of court setllement. Even if that is not possible a verdict will come. In Politics, as in Cricket, timing is everythnig. I feel that a verdict in favour of Ram Temple will be coming sometime in 2018 end. just before the elction campaign kicks off in high gear a favourable verdict will give a big boost to BJP

Which belong to all people whose blood is mixed with this soil.

And there are millions of Indians who are not Hindu who believe similarly.

The moment you go Hindu on us, within the narrower confines of only practicing Hindus and their values and sensibilities, you alienate these millions.

BJP itself says anyone born in India is culturally a Hindu. You may label yourself as Muslims, or Christians, or Sikhs, or Jains, or Buddhists but culturally you are part of the greater Hindu Family.

 

[padamchen]

I am curious. What is the difference in the Hindutva they drumed up and the hindutva you got?

Modi spoke about cow protection during election and you got that

Modi spoke about UCC - The law commision is working on it + we can expect verdicts in Supreme Court against Triple Talaq and Polygamy. Trust me for 90% of the hindutva supporters these two are the major parts of UCC. Once these are done they will consider UCC promise as fulfilled

Modi Spoke about Ram Temple - SC asked to go for out of court setllement. Even if that is not possible a verdict will come. In Politics, as in Cricket, timing is everythnig. I feel that a verdict in favour of Ram Temple will be coming sometime in 2018 end. just before the elction campaign kicks off in high gear a favourable verdict will give a big boost to BJP


BJP itself says anyone born in India is culturally a Hindu. You may label yourself as Muslims, or Christians, or Sikhs, or Jains, or Buddhists but culturally you are part of the greater Hindu Family.

The BJP says something.

It's sanghis do something else.

The BJP pretends all is well.

The country wakes up.

Save it Soumitra. You are not speaking to a kid here.

 

[Soumitra]

The BJP says something.

It's sanghis do something else.

The BJP pretends all is well.

The country wakes up.

Save it Soumitra. You are not speaking to a kid here.

Please explain to me what different have Sanghis done which is different from hindutva promised by BJP

I gave point by point explanation of my Point of View. Please give your PoV in a point by point manner

If you said you oppose BJP becuae you oppose Hindutva I would have still understood. But you are a curious case. You say you support Hindutva but you are saying BJP is NOT doing Hindutva?

Please try to explain in a point wise manner

 

[padamchen]

Please explain to me what different have Sanghis done which is different from hindutva promised by BJP

I gave point by point explanation of my Point of View. Please give your PoV in a point by point manner

If you said you oppose BJP becuae you oppose Hindutva I would have still understood. But you are a curious case. You say you support Hindutva but you are saying BJP is NOT doing Hindutva?

Please try to explain in a point wise manner

I'll answer your question with one of my own.

Are Muslims and Christians cultural Hindus?

If yes, what is this surge of hate and targeting against them?

Are they not of this soil?

Quit your politically correct script buddy. I repeat. You are speaking to a guy who is more your dad's generation than yours.

Introspect.

My mind is made up. And I am crystal clear in my thinking and understanding of things in the society I live in.

 

[Soumitra]

Are Muslims and Christians cultural Hindus?

I dont beilieve in being politically correct. I call a spade a spade

Do we consider them as culturally Hindus ? Yes

Do they consider themselves as culturally Hindus? No

The only thing that is happening is that the previous govt gave these groups longer ropes and suppresed the Hindus. This is now changing

And this is exactly what BJP had promised. nothing more nothing less

If you were not able to understand what BJP was saying too bad.

You have your chance. You can still try to vote out the BJP if, and this is a big if, you can get enough numbers on your side.

Let me ask you a question. Why will majority Hindus, who for decades were made to feel inferior about their culture and heritage, vote agianst the party which is finally giving them prominance?

And I am not talking about the so called "Liberal" hindu who is hindu is just a name and is a tiny minority in the population.

Another fallcy is that the educated Hindus are "liberal" and the unwashed masses are the hindutva supporters. This is also not true at all. Lot of highly educated professionals - Engineers, MBAs, Doctors, Lawyers are supporters of BJP and their hindutva Policy

 

[padamchen]

I dont beilieve in being politically correct. I call a spade a spade

Do we consider them as culturally Hindus ? Yes

Do they consider themselves as culturally Hindus? No

The only thing that is happening is that the previous govt gave these groups longer ropes and suppresed the Hindus. This is now changing

And this is exactly what BJP had promised. nothing more nothing less

If you were not able to understand what BJP was saying too bad.

You have your chance. You can still try to vote out the BJP if, and this is a big if, you can get enough numbers on your side.

Let me ask you a question. Why will majority Hindus, who for decades were made to feel inferior about their culture and heritage, vote agianst the party which is finally giving them prominance?

And I am not talking about the so called "Liberal" hindu who is hindu is just a name and is a tiny minority in the population.

Another fallcy is that the educated Hindus are "liberal" and the unwashed masses are the hindutva supporters. This is also not true at all. Lot of highly educated professionals - Engineers, MBAs, Doctors, Lawyers are supporters of BJP and their hindutva Policy

You just exposed the lie about cultural Hindutva. When you spoke as a Hindu religionist first.

Thanks.

 

[Soumitra]

You just exposed he lie about cultural Hindutva. When you spoke as a Hindu religionist first.

Thanks.

I have already given you my understanding of hindutva. It is what BJP promised and is following

I want to know your definition of Hindutva which you say BJP promised but is not following

No Rhetorical questions please a point by point explanation will be good.

Otherwise just say you dont believe in Hindutva but what passes off as "Secularism" in India.

 

[Fireurimagination]

Last time target was 300 they got 282 which was good. If they target 400 then only we will see 350+ seats

New States to target
Bengal - Jihadi didi's antics make the state easy for targetting
All North East States - Hemant Biswa Sarma can help.
AP - Good alliance with Naidu is going to help here. Need more BJP MPs along with TDP ones
Telangana - Naidu can influence here also. BJP has to target atleat 8-10 MPs from here
Karnataka - Siddharamaih is going down and yedurrappa needs to be pushed to get the MPs
Odhisha - 15 year anti incumbency for Naveen Patnaik

Kerala and Tamil Nadu will be difficult as no base for BJP here but we can still target 2-3 seats from these states

Add Maharashtra to the list too, Modi popularity is quite high here as well and BJP is growing here like crazy. I believe for lok sabha elections people even Marathi Manus will vote for BJP and not Shiv Sena although they are NDA partners, so BJP will definitely improve it's tally and get 10-15 extra seats from Maharashtra

 

[Fireurimagination]

Congress removes Digvijaya Singh as party in charge of Goa, Karnataka

Congress returning to it's senses??? Well still a very long way to go, don't think they can reach there by 2019