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[Abingdonboy]

Why are Modi haters turning into India haters?

This was written in March 2015, since then the Congress have gone to new lows. It simply ins't acceptable- did you see American Democrats/Republicans (depending on the POTUS) visiting the leadership of AQ post 9/11? Do you think the French opposition are going to go and visit Al-Baghdadi (leader of ISIS)?

This is beyond sickening and why aren't the media ripping them apart for this treachery? Honestly, the Indian political discourse is one of the most idiosyncratic, contradictory and frankly stupid in existence. I appreciate politicians the world over are narcissists and purely interested in their self-gains but India's politicians don't even try to hide it- there is no illusion who they are looking out for- themselves.

 

[Bitter Melon]

In UP ,there are not much chance of a mahagathbandhan.

Mulayam and Sonia despise each other.

Mulayam and Mayawati despise each other (and here hatred is personal).

There is very little chance of Mayawati and Mulayam coming together. Only universal prostitute ,congress, could form a mahagathbandhan with either BSP or SP, and in UP congress is even more hated than in Bihar and would be a liability to any party that allies with it.

In all probability, it would be hung assembly ,a throwback to 1990's in UP.

These are old rules and no more work. What we have opposed to us is a pack of unethical hyenas who will collaborate with anyone and everyone to defeat BJP. BJP should align with Mayawati.

 

[jamahir]

Never mind.... forget about Chechniya, Iraq, Syria, Paris, Boston, Sydney, 9/11....

chechnya is russia's internal matter but since you mention iraq and syria, i will mention the invasion of those priorly fine countries by the same usa government ( and other western governments ) which the sangh parivar is a puppet of.

and iraq i must also add is where 17,000 indian army soldiers would have gone to in 2003 in support of the usa and british militaries and against the iraqi resistance and iraqi people... only protests in india stopped this misadventure of the indian army... remember, george bush jr and tony blair are declared war criminals.

what is more important is Hindu Taliban and RSS terrorists killing 1 MAN in Dadri out of 180 million.... suicide bombings in Mosques.... killing shouting God is Great.... To hell with these Hindu terrorists !!!!

yes, the hindu taliban issue is critical to real humanity a problem to solve... yesterday, another dalit writer decided to return his award.

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and look at the sorry bunch who thanked your post.

 

[Bitter Melon]

Doctor Sahab ka analysis.

So much concern for India's unity by these MoFos.

Please, there is little to support this. He was clearly more inclined to do a more Pakistan-Favourable deal than the current GoI but he wasn't an anti-national, not like the rest of his party.

They are always willing to Pakistan favorable deal and stick it to Indians and especially Hindus. You cannot be more anti-national than that.

 

[Eminent Mainstream Media]

This is Eminent Mainstream Media here-

Nice discussion keep going- I'll join from time to time-

 

[It.is.all.mudi's.fault]

These are old rules and no more work. What we have opposed to us is a pack of unethical hyenas who will collaborate with anyone and everyone to defeat BJP. BJP should align with Mayawati.

Aligning with Mayawati could spectacularly backfire on BJP. Mayawati is not Manjhi or Paswan who were normal Dalit leaders.She is someone who has built her career on actively hating and conducting witchhunt against members of other castes. She is kryptonite in UP politics and if BJP ally with her, they may even lose their core vote-bank.

 

[Tridibans]

chechnya is russia's internal matter but since you mention iraq and syria, i will mention the invasion of those priorly fine countries by the same usa government ( and other western governments ) which the sangh parivar is a puppet of.

and iraq i must also add is where 17,000 indian army soldiers would have gone to in 2003 in support of the usa and british militaries and against the iraqi resistance and iraqi people... only protests in india stopped this misadventure of the indian army... remember, george bush jr and tony blair are declared war criminals.



yes, the hindu taliban issue is critical to real humanity a problem to solve... yesterday, another dalit writer decided to return his award.

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and look at the sorry bunch who thanked your post.

You don't know shyte about world politics!!

Chechniya or Rohingya or Kashmir or whatever are INTERNAL matters of each of the respective nations, so? All the conflicts everywhere in the world are by Islamists.

99% of Terrorists are Muslims. All the suicide bombings today are by Muslims.


On the other thread you said...

if they claimed to do this in the name of islam, they are fake-muslim ( munafiqs ).

You say hindu taliban... right.... so Hindu taliban killed what... 1 man in UP and 1 in Karnataka. Hardly 10-15 people were involved who CLAIM TO BE HINDUS but as per you.... all of BJP/RSS/VHP/ Hindu nationalists/ NDA supporter (that is 700 million Hindus) are responsible....

But 50000000 killed in Syria, Pakistan, Kashmir, Chechniya, Yemen, Egypt, Iraw, Sydney, Paris, New York,........... by tens of thousands of Muslim bombers/ suicide attackers and gunmen .... but they are fake muslims, why?

I can say the same thing.... all Muslim secularists or Jamuhriyat supporters including you are Talibanists and terrorsits!!!!!

Infact, people killed by Hindu Taliban in 100 years might be equal to people killed by Muslim terrorists every month!!!!

Go figure!

You are a hypocrite of insane proportions.

 

[Bitter Melon]

Aligning with Mayawati could spectacularly backfire on BJP. Mayawati is not Manjhi or Paswan who were normal Dalit leaders.She is someone who has built her career on actively hating and conducting witchhunt against members of other castes. She is kryptonite in UP politics and if BJP ally with her, they may even lose their core vote-bank.

During 2014 elections, there was this video of Dalits who were clear about their priorities. They said they will vote for Modi for LS and Mayawati for Assembly. Even then her vote share was 20% or so of the whole. There has to be some workable solution to keep out the Yadavs. Her rule was any day better than Akhilesh Yadav's. Was she not the one who was willing to co-opt Brahmins in her fold?

This is Eminent Mainstream Media here-

Nice discussion keep going- I'll join from time to time-

Are you a German living in India? If so, how come so interested in Indian politics?

 

[magudi]

This was written in March 2015, since then the Congress have gone to new lows. It simply ins't acceptable- did you see American Democrats/Republicans (depending on the POTUS) visiting the leadership of AQ post 9/11? Do you think the French opposition are going to go and visit Al-Baghdadi (leader of ISIS)?

This is beyond sickening and why aren't the media ripping them apart for this treachery? Honestly, the Indian political discourse is one of the most idiosyncratic, contradictory and frankly stupid in existence. I appreciate politicians the world over are narcissists and purely interested in their self-gains but India's politicians don't even try to hide it- there is no illusion who they are looking out for- themselves.

What you feel as treachery is in fact the Congress's ideology . And no the media doesn't discuss such things here not even as a side scroll

 

[Bitter Melon]

You don't know shyte about world politics!!

Chechniya or Rohingya or Kashmir or whatever are INTERNAL matters of each of the respective nations, so? All the conflicts everywhere in the world are by Islamists.

99% of Terrorists are Muslims. All the suicide bombings today are by Muslims.


On the other thread you said...


You say hindu taliban... right.... so Hindu taliban killed what... 1 man in UP and 1 in Karnataka. Hardly 10-15 people were involved who CLAIM TO BE HINDUS but as per you.... all of BJP/RSS/VHP/ Hindu nationalists/ NDA supporter (that is 700 million Hindus) are responsible....

But 50000000 killed in Syria, Pakistan, Kashmir, Chechniya, Yemen, Egypt, Iraw, Sydney, Paris, New York,........... by tens of thousands of Muslim bombers/ suicide attackers and gunmen .... but they are fake muslims, why?

I can say the same thing.... all Muslim secularists or Jamuhriyat supporters including you are Talibanists and terrorsits!!!!!

Infact, people killed by Hindu Taliban in 100 years might be equal to people killed by Muslim terrorists every month!!!!

Go figure!

You are a hypocrite of insane proportions.

You are arguing with a certified loon. It is useless, best to put him on ignore.

https://twitter.com/x/status/665907573938192386

 

[Tridibans]

Apart from all the negatives of Bihar elections, let us now look at the positive narratives...

1) Hope Modi and Shah has realised now that BJP cannot ride the 2014 Modi wave forever. they need to find and promote local leaders like Raman Singh or Vasundhara Raje.... This will take years but atleast, it won't be like the Delhi fiasco where the CM candidate joined the party 15 days before elections!!!

2) BJP has to look at the bigger picture... that is winning India in 2019. For this they might even have to play the second fiddle to small state level players if it means disallowing the Congress to form an unified opposition. They need to stitch up regional allies like AGP (in Assam), BJD (in orrissa) and make the existing allies feel more secure and more comfortable as partners (read Akalis or SS or TDP).

3) BJP must realise that vast majority of young voters or its hardcore supporters didn't elect Modi to pu$$yfoot Congress or play Gandhigiri. Go hard after the mother-son duo. Expose Vadra, Khurshid, Chiddu.... the Congress closet is so corrupt to the core that once it starts to stink... it will be a no go territory for any voters come 2019 elections. Congress had the Hindutva plank to play against BJP and they overplayed it. It was their last resort. Nothing else is left in their armory. When your enemy calls you Hitler and what not.... Gentleman's politics and Gandhigiri goes out the window.

4) Last but not the least, as much as we hate the presstitutes, BJP must realise in 21st century, its media management and marketing ploys that goes a long way in carrying forward your pov. If anyparty has serious corporate backing, it is the BJP. Like TV18, buy major media houses or influence them (go to any extent whatever deemed necessary). If Congress can play the game for 15 years, why not the BJP?

@ranjeet @Star Wars @magudi @SarthakGanguly @Marxist

 

[Eminent Mainstream Media]

Are you a German living in India? If so, how come so interested in Indian politics?

Hi-

I am very much Indian-

During 2014 elections, there was this video of Dalits who were clear about their priorities. They said they will vote for Modi for LS and Mayawati for Assembly.

The very same thing was said by Dalits and EBCs during 2014 in Bihar and they kept their word last Month-
BJP joining hands with Mayawati would be admitting defeat before 2019 Lok Sabha Elections- And ultimately destroying UP BJP for a decade AGAIN-

 

[It.is.all.mudi's.fault]

During 2014 elections, there was this video of Dalits who were clear about their priorities. They said they will vote for Modi for LS and Mayawati for Assembly. Even then her vote share was 20% or so of the whole. There has to be some workable solution to keep out the Yadavs. Her rule was any day better than Akhilesh Yadav's. Was she not the one who was willing to co-opt Brahmins in her fold?

That experiment failed in a year and half. Jatav Dalits forced her to abandon that Brahmin+Dalit project.

You have to understand that upper castes of dalits in UP (Jatavs et al) are classical douchebag castes (Frankly most of castes in UP, and to some extent in Bihar, are douchebags more or less, but some like Bhumihars of Bihar, Yadavs of UP and Bihar, and Jatavs of UP excel in it). They are not honourable allies and would prefer remaining in gutter, than in co-existence with some other caste. Here situtaion is much different from Punjab, Bihar, or any other state.

It would be most prudent for BJP to wean away non-Jatav dalits (Valmikis have voted for BJP in past and are even now open to possibility) from Mayawati and bring non-Yadav OBCs in its fold; and close to election, organise a riot. There is enough anti-muslim resentment in western UP for even a small event to polarise it. Polarisation in Western UP (where majority of Muslims are concentrated) would blunt Muslim factor in next election.


Mayawati would fk original vote bank of BJP, and any alliance with Mayawati would never be stable as witnessed in history.


Another point that should be noted is that Mayawati's vote bank ,due to its geographical diffusion, is a paper tiger. BSP probably has worst conversion ratio of all parties and even 20% vote share could lead to zero seats for BSP as witnessed in 2014.

 

[magudi]

Apart from all the negatives of Bihar elections, let us now look at the positive narratives...

1) Hope Modi and Shah has realised now that BJP cannot ride the 2014 Modi wave forever. they need to find and promote local leaders like Raman Singh or Vasundhara Raje.... This will take years but atleast, it won't be like the Delhi fiasco where the CM candidate joined the party 15 days before elections!!!

2) BJP has to look at the bigger picture... that is winning India in 2019. For this they might even have to play the second fiddle to small state level players if it means disallowing the Congress to form an unified opposition. They need to stitch up regional allies like AGP (in Assam), BJD (in orrissa) and make the existing allies feel more secure and more comfortable as partners (read Akalis or SS or TDP).

3) BJP must realise that vast majority of young voters or its hardcore supporters didn't elect Modi to pu$$yfoot Congress or play Gandhigiri. Go hard after the mother-son duo. Expose Vadra, Khurshid, Chiddu.... the Congress closet is so corrupt to the core that once it starts to stink... it will be a no go territory for any voters come 2019 elections. Congress had the Hindutva plank to play against BJP and they overplayed it. It was their last resort. Nothing else is left in their armory. When your enemy calls you Hitler and what not.... Gentleman's politics and Gandhigiri goes out the window.

4) Last but not the least, as much as we hate the presstitutes, BJP must realise in 21st century, its media management and marketing ploys that goes a long way in carrying forward your pov. If anyparty has serious corporate backing, it is the BJP. Like TV18, buy major media houses or influence them (go to any extent whatever deemed necessary). If Congress can play the game for 15 years, why not the BJP?

@ranjeet @Star Wars @magudi @SarthakGanguly @Marxist

@Tridibans what is your opinion about Prashant Kishore's role ?

 

[skyisthelimit]

In UP ,there are not much chance of a mahagathbandhan.

Mulayam and Sonia despise each other.

Mulayam and Mayawati despise each other (and here hatred is personal).

There is very little chance of Mayawati and Mulayam coming together. Only universal prostitute ,congress, could form a mahagathbandhan with either BSP or SP, and in UP congress is even more hated than in Bihar and would be a liability to any party that allies with it.

In all probability, it would be hung assembly ,a throwback to 1990's in UP.

If Lalu and Nitish can overcome their enmity to grab power in Bihar. It is imperative that, this trend will follow in other states too.

It will happen in UP too. CONg will surely gun for BSP as an alliance partner.

The hyenas of Indian politics can go to any extent to not allow BJP from gaining power.