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[Abingdonboy]

They certainly do tag along though...atleast online, their top trend was #LondonRejectsModism
Also saw this

https://twitter.com/x/status/664848703010795520

I dont know who this Galloway guy is but check out his retweets, constant rants about Zionist/Hindu fascism

He's a total effing clown who has made a career out of it and, somehow, has managed to get himself elected MP numerous times.


See this video:

The levels of his ignorance are simply mind-boggling and his companion is just nodding along as if it is gospel!!


A crazy world we live in where idiots roam completely without fear of being challenged.

It saddens and angers me to see my fellow Sikhs associating themselves with the kind of terrorists and clowns seen in this pic and protesting Modi as a whole.

The fact is, there is nothing personal against Modi driving these Sikhs to be there but are there to protest/signal to what he represents as the Prime Minister of India. They aren't even protesting- look at their placards (not those of the ret@rds surrounding them) they are simply calling for justice for the 1984 atrocities- a perfectly legitimate request I think we can all agree. The belligerence and indifference consecutive GoIs have taken on this matter has simply led to a great deal of, particularly amongst the older generation who had to live through those horrid events, feeling of being disenfranchised with the Indian government as a whole.

If Modi were to act on the 1984 debacle he would immediately see the benefits- no protests from Sikhs in foreign lands and an almost extinction of the Khalistan cause in one foul swoop.

Besides, who wouldn't want to see scumbags like Tytler behind bars instead of smugly smiling on national television debates?

It seems like an obvious low hanging fruit but, again, one he has failed to move forward on.



@kbd-raaf @Koovie @Star Wars @Echo_419 @ranjeet

 

[ranjeet]

It saddens and angers me to see my fellow Sikhs associating themselves with the kind of terrorists and clowns seen in this pic and protesting Modi as a whole.

The fact is, there is nothing personal against Modi driving these Sikhs to be there but are there to protest/signal to what he represents as the Prime Minister of India. They aren't even protesting- look at their placards (not those of the ret@rds surrounding them) they are simply calling for justice for the 1984 atrocities- a perfectly legitimate request I think we can all agree. The belligerence and indifference consecutive GoIs have taken on this matter has simply led to a great deal of, particularly amongst the older generation who had to live through those horrid events, feeling of being disenfranchised with the Indian government as a whole.

If Modi were to act on the 1984 debacle he would immediately see the benefits- no protests from Sikhs in foreign lands and an almost extinction of the Khalistan cause in one foul swoop.

Besides, who wouldn't want to see scumbags like Tytler behind bars instead of smugly smiling on national television debates?

It seems like an obvious low hanging fruit but, again, one he has failed to move forward on.



@kbd-raaf @Koovie @Star Wars @Echo_419 @ranjeet

Can't really blame Sikhs for protesting against Government of India for demanding justice. They are the ones with a legitimate cause. Modi did meet leaders of Sikh community before the guard of honor but I wonder if he will help them get justice. I really want him to but will he be able to? I don't know.

 

[Spectre]

He's a totally effing clown who has made a career out of it and, somehow, has managed to get himself elected MP numerous times.


See this video:

The levels of his ignorance are simply mind-boggling and his companion is just nodding along as if it is gospel!!


A crazy world we live in where idiots roam completely without fear of being challenged.


It saddens and angers me to see my fellow Sikhs associating themselves with the kind of terrorists and clowns seen in this pic and protesting Modi as a whole.

The fact is, there is nothing personal against Modi driving these Sikhs to be there but are there to protest/signal to what he represents as the Prime Minister of India. They aren't even protesting- look at their placards (not those of the ret@rds surrounding them) they are simply calling for justice for the 1984 atrocities- a perfectly legitimate request I think we can all agree. The belligerence and indifference consecutive GoIs have taken on this matter has simply led to a great deal of, particularly amongst the older generation who had to live through those horrid events, feeling of being disenfranchised with the Indian government as a whole.

If Modi were to act on the 1984 debacle he would immediately see the benefits- no protests from Sikhs in foreign lands and an almost extinction of the Khalistan cause in one foul swoop.

Besides, who wouldn't want to see scumbags like Tytler behind bars instead of smugly smiling on national television debates?

It seems like an obvious low hanging fruit but, again, one he has failed to move forward on.



@kbd-raaf @Koovie @Star Wars @Echo_419 @ranjeet

What can Modi do in 1984 matter?

My friend, this is a slippery slope, the matter lies before courts and they have their own due processes which they possessively guard and brook no political interference. Indian Judiciary is like a lioness with her cub when it comes to her independence and Legislature should not interfere.

What Modi can do in IMHO is set up another inquiry and we all know how that will go. In addition Punjab is really volatile right now due to recent desecration of Guru Granth Sahab, This meeting called which appointed Indira Assassin as a head of Akal Takht and the heavy handed foolish reaction by the Punjab Govt. A step by Modi would incentivise Congress to go on all sorts of mischief and Congress has anti-incumbancy factor against SAD going for it.


I am open to all opinions but perhaps it would help if we all take a deep breath and take a long term view

Regards

 

[The_Showstopper]

If that double standards stands to Offending Muslims then I must .....
Try to draw the distinction between haram consumption given in Islam ( pork not worth to consume n its not holy animal to you) n slaughtering a holy figure to Hindus... That's the wide difference.....

It is not "worth of consumption", it is "prohibited from consumption" which is very much similar to what beef consumption is, yet no one bothers the pork eaters. And No, Cow is not holy to all Hindus(If you want to include Dalits and South Indians within the term "Hindu"), it is only the cow belt region which insist on it. Even rats(Ganesh's vehicle), snakes and other animals are holy in your religion, yet you don't mind killing them, then why create issues over beef, Is it to antagonize us?

I am saying your culinary habit doesn't offend me except the cow slaughtering on the pretext of secularism exclusively one sided to appease you ppl.....

The very secularism has stopped us from following our culinary habits aka banned cow slaughter(Article 48). LOL Not sure who's appeasement is this for!!!

Drawing cartoons offends you so is the slaughtering to Hindus.... Get this clear ......
If You don't respect my sensitivities then don't expect same for yours .....

How do you intend to draw comparison between Cow Slaughter and cartoon drawings? Apt comparison would be drawing paintings of your Gods/Goddesses...

Mf Hussain died his natural death despite his extreme offenses .... Replace those pics with prophet n Allah he would have been ripped apart on the recommendation of religious doctrine by his own green folks without if n but.....

MF Hussain was lucky not to be lynched like an Akhlaq, What do you have to say about Kalbaurgi and other artists who are either killed or attacked for their ideas on Hinduism?

 

[skyisthelimit]

6 significant agreements among £9 billion India-UK deals- The Times of India

6 significant agreements among £9 billion India-UK deals

 

[Abingdonboy]

@Spectre @Star Wars @magudi @Echo_419 @ranjeet this is what really pi$$es me off about Modi. He has clearly done a vast amount of good for India's development agenda (as the leader of the govt it is his vision that is being enacted so he is entitled to the credit), far more than the media is willing to admit. But that is the problem- he is allowing his good deeds to be undone by those within his very party and further compounded by his silence (yes, he can't respond to all of his critics but he hasn't even responded to a single one).

You cannot blame the Opposition for jumping on any morsel of "ammunition" given to them- in the dysfunctional democracy that is India these clowns take the title "opposition" all too literally and it plays to the petty nature of Indian politics to make political capital out of the failings of others.

You CAN and should blame the PM and his government for giving them the ammunition in the first place, they are shooting themselves in the foot, the leg and every other appendage one can name.

The way I see it is that Modi has a once in a generation opportunity to get India in the right path, the fundamentals of the economy are all strong, the world is looking at India to pick up the slack from China's slowing economy, India's population is aspirational to the sufficient degree and he has managed to do what many thought was highly implausible- achieve an absolute majority in the LS. All the stars are alining as it were, and yet he is squandering it. Yes, no one could reasonably expect him to entirely live up to the pre-election hype but that in itself is conceding ground, qualifying what "success" is and, ultimately, diminishing the hopes we should have for his tenureship. And, in fact, from what I can tell Modi is not one to accept anything less than meeting his goals- he hasn't publicly issued any excuses in the past 18 months for apparent failings on his part. He is progressing forward nonetheless and I think it is only right that we hold him to a higher standard than simply (slightly) bettering the performance of the UPA-2. As such I would say that my current dissatisfaction with Modi is justified.


That post went on far longer than I had intended and ended up being a bit of a rant because of how frustrating this situation is to me. This was meant to be an aside to a comment I made in the Indian economy section relating to some impressive performances but I thought it would be more appropriate to post it here.

 

[ranjeet]

@Spectre @Star Wars @magudi @Echo_419 @ranjeet this is what really pi$$es me off about Modi. He has clearly done a vast amount of good for India's development agenda (as the leader of the govt it is his vision that is being enacted so he is entitled to the credit), far more than the media is willing to admit. But that is the problem- he is allowing his good deeds to be undone by those within his very party and further compounded by his silence (yes, he can't respond to all of his critics but he hasn't even responded to a single one).

You cannot blame the Opposition for jumping on any morsel of "ammunition" given to them- in the dysfunctional democracy that is India these clowns take the title "opposition" all too literally and it plays to the petty nature of Indian politics to make political capital out of the failings of others.

You CAN and should blame the PM and his government for giving them the ammunition in the first place, they are shooting themselves in the foot, the leg and every other appendage one can name.

The way I see it is that Modi has a once in a generation opportunity to get India in the right path, the fundamentals of the economy are all strong, the world is looking at India to pick up the slack from China's slowing economy, India's population is aspirational to the sufficient degree and he has managed to do what many thought was highly implausible- achieve an absolute majority in the LS. All the stars are alining as it were, and yet he is squandering it. Yes, no one could reasonably expect him to entirely live up to the pre-election hype but that in itself is conceding ground, qualifying what "success" is and, ultimately, diminishing the hopes we should have for his tenureship. And, in fact, from what I can tell Modi is not one to accept anything less than meeting his goals- he hasn't publicly issued any excuses in the past 18 months for apparent failings on his part. He is progressing forward nonetheless and I think it is only right that we hold him to a higher standard than simply (slightly) bettering the performance of the UPA-2. As such I would say that my current dissatisfaction with Modi is justified.


That post went on far longer than I had intended and ended up being a bit of a rant because of how frustrating this situation is to me. This was meant to be an aside to a comment I made in the Indian economy section relating to some impressive performances but I thought it would be more appropriate to post it here.

Unfortunately hotheads are reality of Indian politics but BJP leaders needs to be more careful whenever they open their mouth, It would be highly beneficial for Indian growth story if they learn two words "No comments" to every question media put up to them. I hope after Bihar fiasco Modi and BJP learned it's lesson and instead of blaming others first check themselves . Every word they utter is being put under the microscope for a possible controversy. They now need to STFU and get down to some serious business.

 

[The_Showstopper]

This calumny has been posted and debunked multiple times but followers of "war religion of Hebrew god" never stop lying and misconstruing.

Fellow Sanghi posters,

I am hospitalized atm and could not write detailed reply, but anyone interested in academic refutation should start a thread in this forum Asian History - Historum - History Forums . There is a poster @Jinit who would provide you with proper academic refutation of this kind of bull.

Even I don't have time to write long posts but let me inform you that I have posted many references to support my claims. And I haven't seen anyone posting a "proper academic refutation". Anyways get well soon...

He is not interested in refutation either rather equating the brutal acts of two different ppl of different background... He believes the sword of the sand dwellers were on the righteous path of religion which talks plenty on WHAT AMOUNT OF WAR BOOTY TO SHARED AMONG THE MERCENARIES....
Do you really think he cares for human life or humanity at first place who hold DP of mass murderer.....
I believe we must appreciate the same way to brutalities of Israeli forces defending their border...... N Israelis are the only one who are giving them a taste of their own history of brutality ......

You seem to know more of me, than myself... Anyways look into your own history, then do comment. And please avoid PN Oak's history for your references...

You can support and cheer Israeli atrocities, that's expected of you. Its not something which bothers me...

 

[skyisthelimit]

The new bankruptcy code can stimulate credit availability for entrepreneurs.

Dealing With Failure | The Indian Express

 

[Abingdonboy]

What can Modi do in 1984 matter?

My friend, this is a slippery slope, the matter lies before courts and they have their own due processes which they possessively guard and brook no political interference. Indian Judiciary is like a lioness with her cub when it comes to her independence and Legislature should not interfere.

No doubt true sir, I am not advocating political interference in the judicial process- opening that can of worms would ultimately lead to his dismissal in 2019. I would simply like for it to be publicly stated that this was a priority area for the GoI and this be followed by relentless pressure applied to the relevant law enforcement agencies involved (CBI most likely). I had seen an interview of the former head of the CBI in regards to the return of Chotta Rajan to India and one point he made clear was that the CBI is a world class investigative agency who will carry out their mandate but they have to be supported by the political establishment. Cases where there is political will progress at a much faster rate than those without. This is true of all law enforcement agencies anywhere in the world so let's not pretend India is any different.

Not to be crass sir, but the matter has been with the Indian judiciary for decades now with little tangibles to show so the "leave it to them" approach might not be the sole remedy.

In February 2015 the GoI had ordered the formation of a SIT for the 1984 atrocities that was to submit its report to the MHA within 6 months (thus should be with the MHA right now) and yet there seems to be no news beyond that. Who knows if there is a bottleneck within his own government at some level that could be cleared up- we have seen that he likes to take a "hands on approach" with governance (thinking specifically of his unrelenting approach to clearing the vast infrastructure project backlog) so perhaps this approach is needed for these matters too.

It should be made clear from the PM himself that the prosecution of all wrongdoers in the 1984 case is a priority-nothing more, nothing less. I am not asking him to overstep his mandate and interfere with the judicial process.

 

[ranjeet]

The new bankruptcy code can stimulate credit availability for entrepreneurs.

Dealing With Failure | The Indian Express

share it in the Indian economy sticky thread bro.

 

[The_Showstopper]

So in Secular India word of a bhakt doesn't carry as much weight as it does for a secular guy?

No empty claims please... So when did you start accepting words of a secular without asking for proof

 

[ranjeet]

No empty claims please... So when did you start accepting words of a secular without asking for proof

His birthday is on 20th Nov yet congress celebrated it on Diwali .. what you have to say about that?
Karnataka govt's Tipu Sultan blunder: Was 10 Nov his birthday, or the day he hanged 700 Melkote Iyengars? - Firstpost

 

[Abingdonboy]

Can't really blame Sikhs for protesting against Government of India for demanding justice. They are the ones with a legitimate cause. Modi did meet leaders of Sikh community before the guard of honor but I wonder if he will help them get justice. I really want him to but will he be able to? I don't know.

He met Sikh leaders in Canada too and these are nice gestures (to at least acknowledge such groups) but I can certainly see it being seen as inadequate.

 

[skyisthelimit]

share it in the Indian economy sticky thread bro.

Yes bhai. Done

His birthday is on 20th Nov yet congress celebrated it on Diwali .. what you have to say about that?
Karnataka govt's Tipu Sultan blunder: Was 10 Nov his birthday, or the day he hanged 700 Melkote Iyengars? - Firstpost

What is there to think?
Make it a big issue... Start protest march in Delhi and showcase SOGA and RAGA as culprits. Ask both of to give a statement of the doing of their CM
Put it in MEDIA
Pay some famous bloggers to write non stop for next 2 weeks.

Such is the occasion to give one LOHAR ki