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[Star Wars]

Wonder what will happen to Leftists if BJP gets one in Kerala panchayat.

BJP will open its account in Kerala Panchayat i believe...

Chankaya has not been right in Jharkhand. Was wrong by a huge margin. So even if his intentions are correct, his methodology is suspect. Probably due to saffron bias.

Chanakya is either 99% accurate or 99% not...

 

[saurav]

pdf Sanghi's could manage the media far better than the morons in BJP. God knows what theyare thinking

Not PDF Sanghis, Professionals. Why not give media management to professionals ? Why let a guy like PK go to opposite camp ? These are the questions which AS needs to ponder on.

 

[Star Wars]

Not PDF Sanghis, Professionals. Why not give media management to professionals ? Why let a guy like PK go to opposite camp ? These are the questions which AS needs to ponder on.

lol...i did not literally mean pdf Sanghi's manage BJP media cell . PK wanted a cabinet post, modi said no.. Why else would PK move to the opposite camp ? Besides people give PK too much credit. 2 of his guys was also arrested today in Bihar for spreading pamflets RSS reservation. People also give English speaking Media way waay too much importance..

 

[vsdoc]

Man all this PK, AS, NH short forms are leaving me massively stumped?

Is this the FB/Twitterization of India?

 

[jaunty]

Incorrect news reports on Moody’s Analysis



It is with regret the Government of India notes the irresponsible and distorted reporting by certain sections of the Indian media on what was the personal opinion of a Junior Associate Economist employed with Moody’s Analytics.

It is surprising that sections of the Indian media failed to make a distinction between Moody’s Analytics which is merely a data and analytics firm and Moody’s Investor Services, which provides Ratings services.

It is also surprising that no due diligence was done and the readers were not informed about the difference between Moody’s Analytics and Moody’s Investor Services. Opinion of a Junior Associate Economist employed with Moody’s Analytics has been splashed all across implying it as the opinion of Moody’s Analytics.

The Government notes with distress that the personal opinion of a junior analyst was passed off as a commentary on India by a Rating Agency by the media to buttress the narrative it wants to portray.

The media has a great role in enriching our national discourse, and such episodes seriously hamper its credibility, while spreading misinformation among the masses.

Incorrect news reports on Moody’s Analysis

Typical Indian media. Have they ever done any fact-checking? You post something on social media, they would publish it as a news item.

 

[saurav]

lol...i did not literally mean pdf Sanghi's manage BJP media cell . PK wanted a cabinet post, modi said no.. Why else would PK move to the opposite camp ? Besides people give PK too much credit. 2 of his guys was also arrested today in Bihar for spreading pamflets RSS reservation. People also give English speaking Media way waay too much importance..

Not cabinet but something else should have been given. Just look at how he changed JD-U's fortunes in Bihar. This guy has talent. BJP media management could have got him what he wanted. And BTW I am not talking about only PK. Any person or, agency of repute can be employed. There is not shortage of money I suppose. Employ one agency full time.

 

[jaunty]

Akshay kumar ki kismat achi hai beauty with brains

That is true, although she is not Raveena. His wife can definitely write.

 

[saurav]

Totally agreed. International reputation also matters. This is a dirty job. Requires a different set of people. A Govt. can't issue gag orders to the media on such grounds. It can turn a blind eye to orgs doing mischief to media people.

Perfectly put.

This war will not be short and swift. Will be fought on all fronts. Employ people with required set of specialties and give them funds. Hands off approach will not work. India is vastly different than Gujrat.

 

[jaunty]

Intolerance has always existed: Niti Aayog’s Bibek Debroy
Surojit Gupta,TNN | Nov 5, 2015, 02.32 AM IST

Bibek Debroy, Niti Aayog's member and a renowned economist.

Niti Aayog's member Bibek Debroy is a renowned economist who is known for speaking his mind. In an interview to TOI, Debroy reflects on the issue of intolerance and cites examples to show the need for multiple views. Excerpts:

Q: A debate has been raging on the issue of intolerance in the country. What has been your experience?

A: What is generally not known is that Jagdish Bhagwati was essentially made to leave Delhi School of Economics and had to go abroad because his life was made very uncomfortable. He left DSE because there is a certain prevailing climate of opinion and if you buck that, your life is made uncomfortable.

In the course of the second five-year plan, a committee of economists was set up to examine it. Dr B.R. Shenoy was the only one who opposed it. Do you find Dr Shenoy's name mentioned in the history of union policymaking? No. He was completely ostracized. He could not get a job in India and he ended up in Ceylon.


The third is a book called 'Heart of India', written by Alexander Campbell who was a journalist. A patronizing book for that day and time but it is still banned in India because it says frivolous things about Jawaharlal Nehru, socialism in India, and the Planning Commission. People who say there should not be bans, why don't they ever mention 'Heart of India'.

I cited these three examples to drive home the point that intolerance has always existed and we will be stupid if we haven't recognized it.

Q: At a personal level, did you ever experience intolerance in the academic arena?

A: I studied at Presidency College in Kolkata and in a real sense my first job was there at its Centre for Research. Then it was time for me to apply for a proper job, meaning Department of Economics. The head of the department was Dipak Banerjee, who told me you are not going to get a job, just forget it. Remember it was the Left. All the experts are Left-wing. So, I went off to Pune.

Q: How do you view the Rajiv Gandhi Institute, which you once headed, holding this conference on the issue of intolerance?

A: I was there for eight years and during that period we consciously distanced ourselves from the Congress. In 2002, I decided to organize a conference on what India was supposed to be, what its society be like, what the idea of India would be? I invited Seshadri Chari who was the editor of Organiser. Several people from the Left also came.

On the day of the seminar, a paper front-paged a report 'Congress think tank invites editor of Organiser." I get a phone call from 10, Janpath. Not Mrs Gandhi. "Madam has asked me to speak to you. Please withdraw this invitation to Seshadri Chari." I said I have issued the invitation and if Madam wants to talk to me, let her talk to me. Ten minutes later the phone rings again. "Will you please ask Seshadri Chari to give in writing what he is going to speak?" I said I am not going to do that. "No, Madam wants to see it."


Again the phone rings. "What happens if Seshadri Chari goes ahead and speaks about Godhra?" Meanwhile, all hell broke loose and some noted Congress people dropped out because Seshadri Chari was invited. I held the conference.

In 2004, Loveesh Bhandari and I did a study on economic freedom rating of states. Gujarat was number one. In 2005, municipal elections were being held in Gujarat and a newspaper carried a front page story, 'Congress think tank ranks Modi's Gujarat as number one', and all hell broke loose. I got a note from Mrs Gandhi saying anything that the Rajiv Gandhi Institute publishes henceforth be politically vetted. I said this is not acceptable to me. I resigned.

There was an Arjun Sengupta Commission. Next day, I was thrown out of there. I was on two task forces of Planning Commission, I was thrown out of there. Did anyone complain? I only remember two people. One is Loveesh, he was biased because he was the co-author, and the other was a journalist, Seetha Parthasarathy. All these people who are complaining about different points of view, none of them raised their voices.

The intellectual discourse has been captured by a certain kind of people, with certain kinds of views. It is a bit like a monopoly and that monopoly does not like outsiders and that monopoly survives on the basis of networks.

Q: A section of academics has raised the issue of growing intolerance. Do you think they have a point or is it because they are politically aligned?

A: If you tell me intolerance is increasing, it is purely anecdotal and is purely a subjective perception, there is no point in arguing with you because you will say it is increasing and I will say there is no evidence of it increasing. The only way I can measure something is that if I have got some quantitative indicator. If I look at any quantitative indictor, communal violence incidents, internet freedom, these are objective indicators, and I don't think it is increasing. In the intellectual circuit there has always been that intolerance. Let's not pretend otherwise.

That is true although I am not entirely unhappy with it being a national discussion. The result of such discourse is generally positive.

 

[Star Wars]

Not cabinet but something else should have been given. Just look at how he changed JD-U's fortunes in Bihar. This guy has talent. BJP media management could have got him what he wanted. And BTW I am not talking about only PK. Any person or, agency of repute can be employed. There is not shortage of money I suppose. Employ one agency full time.

Sorry to say but You are entirely wrong here. JDU fortunes turned for the worst. even with 2014 mandate for BJP both JDU and RJD together had nearly 45% of the vote share with BJP having 38% of the voteshare. BIhar was almost a confirmed lost due to the caste arithmetic. Its Amit Shah which broke down the Caste Arithmetic by taking away his Dalit and Maha dalit voters and enticing young Yadav voters towards NDA. PK became an opportunist and left, he saw the caste arithmetic and the fame he would get by defeating BJP in BIhar, now he will pay the price for his stupidity.PK is seriously overblown and so is his talent, the fact that BJP has gained considerable voteshare and foothold in Bihar despite the huge advantage MBG had shows his talent or lack of it

 

[jaunty]

Chanakya exit polls will be out, then we will know

https://twitter.com/x/status/662161102759813120

BJP has a very good chance of winning the assembly elections in Assam next year. People are fed up with the Gogoi govt and AGP is almost non existent. So the only alternative is BJP and they have gained a lot of grass root level support. With influential politicians like Himanta Biswa Sarma moving to BJP they are definitely in a very good position now.

 

[drunken-monke]

Seems like my network did well - predicting 122 seats up to now. But I personally have doubts.

Kamine don't keep doubt.. Our heart will be in our mouth.. Zara reham kar aurbata ki "Ab ki Bar Bihar me Kisaki Sarkar"...

 

[Star Wars]

BJP has a very good chance of winning the assembly elections in Assam next year. People are fed up with the Gogoi govt and AGP is almost non existent. So the only alternative is BJP and they have gained a lot of grass root level support. With influential politicians like Himanta Biswa Sarma moving to BJP they are definitely in a very good position now.

Hemanta Biswas was the Amit Shah of congress in north east. He alone was responsible for many N.E victories for congress. Rahul's ego and incompetance caused congress this man

lol...Katihar in Bihar is a 5 way fight

 

[jaunty]

Hemanta Biswas was the Amit Shah of congress in north east. He alone was responsible for many N.E victories for congress. Rahul's ego and incompetance caused congress this man

Nothing to do with Rahul, his main tussle is with Tarun Gogoi and it went on for a couple years. Himanta was the right hand man of Gogoi for many years and he was naturally the next in line for the CM post after Tarun Gogoi but then Tarun Gogoi's son entered politics (in fact he is an MP now) and he was probably seen as a successor of Gogoi and that set the alarm bells ringing for Himanta. Himanta is a very shrewd man and has high ambitions. So I will wait and see how his relationship with BJP works out.

 

[indiatester]

Man all this PK, AS, NH short forms are leaving me massively stumped?

Is this the FB/Twitterization of India?

PK = Prashant Kishor who did media management for Modi during general elections. Now with Nitish
AS = Amit Shah
NH = National Herald (case where Gandhi's are implicated)