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Looks like a Pakistani to me
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I'm sure they have started disowning him already...
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Skin this sucker alive
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Just going to leave this here:
One more thing apart from attendance , I liked is the full Kashmir in western man's hand holding a Indian map.
Maro sale BC ko.
Lol he want the PM of a country to condemn solitary cases since dead fella was muslim.
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Blimey...they are all at it. I thought this woman had her marbles in the right place...apparently not!
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Well Politicians are politicians, apni constituency bhi dekhni padti hai.Blimey...they are all at it. I thought this woman had her marbles in the right place...apparently not!
We have had a so-called Left-Liberal class that was neither Left nor Liberal. In the name of serving the poor, it hijacked the state and its resources for private political ends. Instead of emphasising the rule of law, it converted the state into a form of private property whose resources could be commandeered for favouring underprivileged groups through freebies. The first job of the state is to provide “public goods” that all have an equal right to enjoy – which means ensuring effective policing, law and order, a fair and quick justice delivery system, quality public education and health services. But our Left emphasised private goods (subsidies for food, fertiliser and fuel to the undeserving, job reservations for powerful pressure groups, et al). Little wonder, it has no moral courage to stand up to those who threaten free speech. The impartial law and order machinery that can guarantee free speech does not exist. The state has been well and truly subverted and almost made the private property of various ruling families at centre and states.
At the intellectual level, the so-called "secular liberals" also failed to create a liberal atmosphere by focusing their criticism excessively on the so-called Hindu majority. What they were really doing was fan minority communalism and calling it secularism. Their outrage is always selective, and this has become so obvious that no one is fooled anymore.
Today's illiberal climate is the result of this failure of our "liberal" elite to defend liberalism. If sundry caste and Hindu fringe groups are now running riot in some places it is because they have realised that they too can play the game of "injured sentiments". They are trying to do what the "liberals" encouraged minority and caste groups to do for over six decades - claim hurt feelings and assert the right to shut someone else up and ensure that the law and order machinery does not act against these groups. Now, everyone can do the same damage.
The "liberals" have ensured a society of competitive illiberalism.
Can we overturn this onslaught on illiberalism? Yes, but we need our "liberals" to introspect first. They could start by calling for a lifting of the ban on The Satanic Verses and, in fact, all books, plays and films banned by various governments anywhere in India.
Second, all genuine liberals and civil society groups must refuse to back action against creative work or free speech merely because it offends somebody. Mere offense or hurting the sentiments of anyone cannot be grounds for banning anything. The ban on beef is illiberal. Every Hindu has a right to revere his cow, but not to decide someone else's dietary habits. It is time to remove the idea of cow protection or prohibition from the constitution, just as it is time to remove the abridgement of free speech that Nehru introduced almost immediately after the new constitution was legislated. People who believe the cow should be protected are free to espouse their cause and even pay good money to do so, just as people who want to encourage abstinence from alcohol are free to educate the public on its dangers. A liberal state must protect the individual from the power of the state and powerful groups, and bans of any kind are, by definition, illiberal.
Liberals should also seek to abolish the constitutional protection of minority rights (articles 29 and 30) and instead focus on protecting the rights of the "minority of one" - the individual. All minorities are contextual, not real. A Muslim may be a minority in India, but they may be a majority in a district or a village. And a Shia may be a minority within the group called Muslims. So which minority should we protect? The only minority worth protecting is the “minority of one”. If the individual is protected, all collectives of individuals will automatically get protection to do what they collectively will to do – the only limit being that they cannot, in the process, curtail any other individual’s or group’s rights.
The idea of minorityism is by definition illiberal, for it privileges group rights over that of the individual. If individuals can be secure in their freedoms, society will automatically be free and liberal.
Illiberal India: Why the only minority we need to protect is the 'minority of one' - Firstpost
Tarabari is part of Kishanganj Lok Sabha constituency, which is represented by Maulana Asrarul Haque Qasmi. The fact that despite not spending even a single penny, along with 26 other MPs, from the allocated MPLADS (Member of Parliament Local Area Development Scheme) funds, Qasmi has repeatedly been winning the seat and perhaps is a sign that development has still not become a parameter used to assess performance in Muslim politics.
Tarabari: The Bihar village that is bad publicity for Brand Nitish's claim of development - Firstpost
@daemashkian @SURYA-1 @inr-2030
At the intellectual level, the so-called "secular liberals" also failed to create a liberal atmosphere by focusing their criticism excessively on the so-called Hindu majority. What they were really doing was fan minority communalism and calling it secularism. Their outrage is always selective, and this has become so obvious that no one is fooled anymore.
Today's illiberal climate is the result of this failure of our "liberal" elite to defend liberalism. If sundry caste and Hindu fringe groups are now running riot in some places it is because they have realised that they too can play the game of "injured sentiments". They are trying to do what the "liberals" encouraged minority and caste groups to do for over six decades - claim hurt feelings and assert the right to shut someone else up and ensure that the law and order machinery does not act against these groups. Now, everyone can do the same damage.
The "liberals" have ensured a society of competitive illiberalism.
Can we overturn this onslaught on illiberalism? Yes, but we need our "liberals" to introspect first. They could start by calling for a lifting of the ban on The Satanic Verses and, in fact, all books, plays and films banned by various governments anywhere in India.
Second, all genuine liberals and civil society groups must refuse to back action against creative work or free speech merely because it offends somebody. Mere offense or hurting the sentiments of anyone cannot be grounds for banning anything. The ban on beef is illiberal. Every Hindu has a right to revere his cow, but not to decide someone else's dietary habits. It is time to remove the idea of cow protection or prohibition from the constitution, just as it is time to remove the abridgement of free speech that Nehru introduced almost immediately after the new constitution was legislated. People who believe the cow should be protected are free to espouse their cause and even pay good money to do so, just as people who want to encourage abstinence from alcohol are free to educate the public on its dangers. A liberal state must protect the individual from the power of the state and powerful groups, and bans of any kind are, by definition, illiberal.
Liberals should also seek to abolish the constitutional protection of minority rights (articles 29 and 30) and instead focus on protecting the rights of the "minority of one" - the individual. All minorities are contextual, not real. A Muslim may be a minority in India, but they may be a majority in a district or a village. And a Shia may be a minority within the group called Muslims. So which minority should we protect? The only minority worth protecting is the “minority of one”. If the individual is protected, all collectives of individuals will automatically get protection to do what they collectively will to do – the only limit being that they cannot, in the process, curtail any other individual’s or group’s rights.
The idea of minorityism is by definition illiberal, for it privileges group rights over that of the individual. If individuals can be secure in their freedoms, society will automatically be free and liberal.
Illiberal India: Why the only minority we need to protect is the 'minority of one' - Firstpost
Tarabari is part of Kishanganj Lok Sabha constituency, which is represented by Maulana Asrarul Haque Qasmi. The fact that despite not spending even a single penny, along with 26 other MPs, from the allocated MPLADS (Member of Parliament Local Area Development Scheme) funds, Qasmi has repeatedly been winning the seat and perhaps is a sign that development has still not become a parameter used to assess performance in Muslim politics.
Tarabari: The Bihar village that is bad publicity for Brand Nitish's claim of development - Firstpost
@daemashkian @SURYA-1 @inr-2030
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Reminds me of this
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Reminds me of this
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Its @Darmashkian & @SURYA-1 has been banned, so he can't respond.
I somewhat disagree with the first piece & will not comment now regarding it;
regarding the 2nd piece, let me say this
Nitish Kumar has indeed done good work in Bihar! Most of his work has been done repairing the damage of Lalu. BJP supporters may disagree with me, but that is the truth. & yes much of the development in Bihar is because of the BJP too & not just the JDU!
Remember there is a lot of goodwill among EBCs,Maha-Dalits & some UCs,OBCs & muslims towards Nitish [though he won't get most of their votes now due to Lalu] Why is it there? He must have done something which was common for all of them to get their goodwill & support, right?
& if NiKu talks about development & the good job his govt. did then some of the credit should rightfully go to the BJP.
If the BJP claims there is no development in Bihar in the last 25 years, then some of the credit for that should also go to the BJP.
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Asked why they vote in favour of leaders who do not do anything for their welfare, the village head said, “Sometimes, we plan to boycott elections. What's the point of it when our elected representatives do nothing for us and never turn up after winning the polls?”
“We voted for NDA’s Santosh Kushwaha and he won the 2010 assembly polls. But never showed up. He later joined the JD(U) and successfully contested Lok Sabha elections. In the by-poll, we supported RJD’s Haji Subhan but he also did nothing. We tried all parties but it has been of no use. Now, we are clueless,” he said.
This is the tale of many villages in India & not just Talabari , though the fate of Talabari is sad indeed. It is also worth mentioning that NiKu more or less follows the same model followed by Cong. & RJD to get the muslim vote. Though he does some development for them.
As I would say in Telugu - Panikirani Toti or Sanassi vedava
Does she mean Bihar??
Read this article below, it explains why so many BCs voted for Lalu in the past & still vote for him today
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UP: Father kills 4-year-old daughter for not covering her head | india | Hindustan Times
Now no TV channel will talk about this.
Does she mean Bihar??
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Nah, talking about TN.
Now no TV channel will talk about this.
Does she mean Bihar??
Nah, talking about TN.
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Started a thread on this news, it got deleted.
Anyway no media will report it, they are already back to Indrani.
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