Indian PM Manmohan Singh accepts invitation to visit Pakistan, says Fahim

[KS]

Who knows.. the man is a politician.. if MMS is able to lay enough grounds..
Maybe Modi might turn around and be even more pro friendly relations.. that would leave some venomous pigs in India disappointed.

Contrary to what you might think, even the more 'venomous pigs', as you call them, want only to give Pakistan the reaction it deserves for its Indian stance - an absolute indifference to its plight. But this man is doing what his own people dont want him to do - bend over backwards to appease Pakistan when they have not done anything to justify him doing so and more importantly at the cost of Indian interests.

I dont think he realizes his party is loosing votes cause of his stupid appeasement policies. The emotion attached with his place of birth is seriously screwing his brain cells.

Problem with peace..
A certain section of Pakistani society will lose a large moral ground for its funding needs.
and its privileges.

You think peace will come because of these initiatives ?

I dont know bout Pakistan , but his actions have absolutely no support whatsoever from the vast majority of Indians (especially after 26/11) and I doubt he realizes that.

He used to have a man - MK Narayanan - who occasionally gave him reality checks but now even he is gone and the romance continues.

 

[great]

Oh no no no.. Is there going to be a war immediately after he returns. I hope not.

 

[Major Sam]

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Manmohan singh is a disgrace why he have to meet pak commerce minister when there is commerce minister anand sharma to do that???

MMS is a disgrace he have downgraded protocol and values a prime minister should not meet any jounior minister come on we are a big nation, big economy, big power...........[/QUOTE]

 

[ramu]

This world lives on hope and hope we must. Let us hope the days ahead will bring some joy to us. I have my doubts in solution to the core issue as each side has its take that has no takers on the other side. It is time to move on with better economic relations and more people to people contact.

Wishing MMS the very best.

 

[KS]

On a side note if the Pakistanis cannot find peace/solution with this man, then I bet my arse they will never find it with any other.

This world lives on hope and hope we must. Let us hope the days ahead will bring some joy to us. I have my doubts in solution to the core issue as each side has its take that has no takers on the other side. It is time to move on with better economic relations and more people to people contact.

Wishing MMS the very best.

HOPE......@ what cost, @ whose cost ?

Blind hope doesnt get you anywhere.

 

[karan.1970]

Who knows.. the man is a politician.. if MMS is able to lay enough grounds..
Maybe Modi might turn around and be even more pro friendly relations.. that would leave some venomous pigs in India disappointed.

Problem with peace..
A certain section of Pakistani society will lose a large moral ground for its funding needs.
and its privileges.

One should see the movie called Lamha.. Though it gravitates towards a standard Indian POV towards the end, but gives a pretty good view of vested interests on both sides that ensure that the Kashmir issue (the basis for any lasting peace in between the 2 countries) never gets solved..

 

[SQ8]

Contrary to what you might think, even the more 'venomous pigs', as you call them, want only to give Pakistan the reaction it deserves for its Indian stance - an absolute indifference to its plight. But this man is doing what his own people dont want him to do - bend over backwards to appease Pakistan when they have not done anything to justify him doing so and more importantly at the cost of Indian interests.

I dont think he realizes his party is loosing votes cause of his stupid appeasement policies. The emotion attached with his place of birth is seriously screwing his brain cells.



You think peace will come because of these initiatives ?

I dont know bout Pakistan , but his actions have absolutely no support whatsoever from the vast majority of Indians (especially after 26/11) and I doubt he realizes that.

He used to have a man - MK Narayanan - who occasionally gave him reality checks but now even he is gone and the romance continues.

In other words.. the venomous pigs would like to see dead Pakistani women and Children..
see smothering burning bodies of kids and laugh with glee at the satisfaction of their ego..as they are already in the WoT.
Well .. they are pigs.. what is to be expected of them.

 

[ramu]

HOPE......@ what cost, @ whose cost ?

Blind hope doesnt get you anywhere.

So what do you suggest we do ? Go for an all out war ? Accept one very important reality. Pakistan is the melting pot of terror for historic reasons. No one could have predict that the current state can be the result from where Pakistan was a few decades ago.

Not many would admit this but Pakistan is really unlucky and on top of it arrogant and inflexible. But at the same time it is a buffer and on the other side of the Indian border are some very dangerous people who have nothing to lose and therefore life means nothing to them. If India goes to a war and may even win it but at what cost?

Kashmir is not something India will ever be flexible on and neither is Pakistan. So let us stop talking on something that neither side agree and move on with other issues that are more easily solvable. Solutions that could change the future of millions of people in India and Pakistan. Inaction is the worst a government could do and I am glad that there is some action.

 

[rockstarIN]

There is no other choice, all other options end at destruction, lets talk.

The point is to whom? will Pak okay with the old mushy-MMS solution?

 

[SQ8]

There is no other choice, all other options end at destruction, lets talk.

The point is to whom? will Pak okay with the old mushy-MMS solution?

Talk to the civilian govt.. and only the civilian govt..
dont talk to a military dictator.
But the time is now.. before the establishment plays the gambit again.

 

[KS]

In other words.. the venomous pigs would like to see dead Pakistani women and Children..
see smothering burning bodies of kids and laugh with glee at the satisfaction of their ego..as they are already in the WoT.
Well .. they are pigs.. what is to be expected of them.

There is a difference in what you said and what I called 'indifference'.

I dont think you got it and went psycho-analysing the evil Indians.

Be happy , I dont care, be sad I dont care. All I care is how to improve my country, develop its economy, alleviate poverty and reduce terrorist incidents. This should have been the motto of MMS and this is what the average Joe (or Jai) wants of him.

Nothing wrong I suppose.

p,s :- Well that logic would make an absolute majority of the Pakistanis who were chanting jihad in Kashmir and carrying a smug look when bomb blasts used to occur in dangerously frequent intervals in India (pre-WOT) the same and blamed it on IA 'excesses' in Kashmir. No ? So there is absolutely no need to play the moral high ground here.

 

[SQ8]

There is a difference in what you said and what I called 'indifference'.

I dont think you got it and went psycho-analysing the evil Indians.

Be happy , I dont care, be sad I dont care. All I care is how to improve my country, develop its economy, alleviate poverty and reduce terrorist incidents. This should have been the motto of MMS and this is what the average Joe (or Jai) wants of him.

Nothing wrong I suppose.

p,s :- Well that logic would make an absolute majority of the Pakistanis who were chanting jihad in Kashmir and carrying a smug look when bomb blasts used to occur in dangerously frequent intervals in India (pre-WOT) the same and blamed it on IA 'excesses' in Kashmir. No ? So there is absolutely no need to play the moral high ground here.

Isnt it due in part of MMS's earlier policies that India's current economic situation is where it is?

The Kashmir issue could go further.. there are documented HR excesses there.
But that is for another thread.

So those bomb blasts must be avenged then?
Those Pro-Kashmir Blasts?

 

[sachin@india]

MMS has lost respect in the eyes of Indian. People are suspicious of him, even if he tries to do something good. Without getting justice for mumbai attack we should not show much flexibility. Justice should be served.

MMS is a spineless person. I would call him a Traitor to the nation not because he is doing friendship with pakistan but because of domestic issues. WE indians are eagerly waiting to throw congress govt out of India.

 

[KS]

Isnt it due in part of MMS's earlier policies that India's current economic situation is where it is?

Honestly no. He just implemented the IMF diktats.

If anybody knew what they were talking about they would credit the Late PM, Shri PVNR more than MMS.

The Kashmir issue could go further.. there are documented HR excesses there.
But that is for another thread.

So are in every other insurgency prone region. In Iraq, in Chechnya, in Middle East , in Balochistan. Everywhere.

So those bomb blasts must be avenged then?
Those Pro-Kashmir Blasts?

Who said anything about being avenged ? You are putting words in my mouth.

I said Pakistanis need not take the high ground when saying Indians who are indiffferent to Pak's suffereing are venomous pigs. I just said the description then fits the absolute majority of the Pakistanis pre-WOT when Pakistan was not affected and India was the sole victim.

 

[Avatar]

Who knows.. the man is a politician.. if MMS is able to lay enough grounds..
Maybe Modi might turn around and be even more pro friendly relations.. that would leave some venomous pigs in India disappointed.

Problem with peace..
A certain section of Pakistani society will lose a large moral ground for its funding needs.
and its privileges.

I'm thrilled that the thought crossed your mind. This is what people need to know rather than blindly nod in agreement with everything they are told.