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THE GENESIS OF INDO-AFGHAN RELATIONS AND ITS IMPLICATIONS ON PAKISTAN

Pak-Afghan Relations

Emergence of Pakistan
From the outset the relations between the two countries remain cold, Afghanistan opposed the creation of Pakistan and did not recognize its territorial integrity.

The question revision of the Durand Line and the demand of the so called Pakhtoonistan were the main reasons.

Occupation Era
In 1961 Pakistan and Afghanistan came close to war.

In the first week of December 1979, Afghan President Haifzullah Amin, contacted President Zia and offered Afghanistan’s acceptance of Durand Line as the international frontier. However, he was executed by the invading Soviet forces on December 26, 1979 after which the relations between the two countries deteriorated again.

Soviet Occupation
The Soveits invaded Afghanistan in 1979, but anti-government guerilla forces prevented them to take control of Afghanistan. The paramount objective of Pakistan’s policy makers in supporting the Afghan War was to block the revival of Afghanistan nationalism and persuade a friendly government in Kabul.

Post Soviet Era
By 1989 when the Soviet left, in 1992 Burhanuddin Rabbani became the interim President. Rabbani’s govt had the feelings that Pakistan had betrayed a former friendship based on military, financial and logistic support during the Afghan civil war. These sentiments were expressed by Rabbani’s representative to UN, thus to Northern Alliance, Pakistan was left with no credibility to broker peace for Afghansitan.

Taliban Era

Taliban came to power on 27 September 1996. Pakistan as matter of its foreign policy have to secure western borders, thus had to recognize Talibans (the Indian threat). This recognition had many serious implications for Pakistan.

Post Taliban Era
The famous U-turn…no more comments.

Relations with the Present Setup
Karzai sworn as Chairman of Afghan interim administration, whose cabinet was drawn from representatives of Northern Allaince, the Rome Group loyal to former Kind Zahir Shah and Peshawar exile groups (all the people with anti-Pakistan sentiments), so the results were obvious.


Indo-Afghan Relations


Historically Afghanistan have been part and parcel of the Indian psyche:

1. In 1960s, Afghanistan became one of the top recipients of Indian economic aid. India played a critical role in bringing together various factions of theh Afghan left movement in 1970.

2. When Afghanistan became the final battle ground of the Cold War, india tended to tail Soviet policy rather than develop its own independent profile. India’s Afghan policy during the period of the Soveit interventionary war was contradictory. Although New Delhi, vociferously decrided the involvement of external powers in the regions’ security affairs, it maintained a guarded silence over the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan.

3. India’s relations with most Afghan regimes remained cordial except the Taliban rule. However, it would be worth mentioning that unlike Afghan regimes, Indian governments in general did not extend support to the struggle of Afghan people against the Soviet forces.

Relation During Taliban Regime
During the Talibans rule in mid 90s, india was completely marginalized.

The Indian embassy in Kabul was closed down the day Taliban captured the city.

Indian Relations with the Present Setup
India had been playing a backdoor role at the Bonn deliberations, which brought the present government in existence. Thereafter, General Fahim the Afghani Defence Minster the brother of Ahmad Shah Masud also visited Indian. Points to be kept in mind are:

a. The current President Karzai did his postgarduation in political sciences from Shimla in the 80s. With this new set of government, india found in Afghanistan, a Muslim neighbor to counter Pakistan.

b. With four consulates in Jalabad, Kandhar, Heart and Mazar-e-Sharif, besides the embassy in Kabul, india’s diplomatic reach has never been as wide in Afghanistan as it is today. For the first time since partition, india poised to contribute significantly to the political and economic affairs of Afghanistan.

Indian Efforts to Win the Minds of Afghan People

India with the objective of isolation Pakistan is going all out to win the hearts and minds of Afghan people by helping them with the support required for reconstruction and development. Some of the areas of cooperation are:

a. Indian announced a financial assistance of US $ 100 million for Afghanistan

b. Assistance of 1 million ton of wheat.

c. Assistance provided in November 2001:

1. A team of 19 doctors and paramedics deputed at Kabul and Mazar-e-Sharif fo providing medical assistance.

2. Nearly 95 tone of medicines, medical instruments and equipment have been sent.

3. Winter clothing was sent to provide immediate humanitarian relief in December 2001.

4. A consignment of musical instrument was sent to Kabul as requested
by Afghan Radio and Television.

5. A 3 months training program for the Afgahan diplomats commenced at Foreign Institute Delhi.

6. Provided 50 buses for the public transport system. The second lot of 25 Tata buses was handed over in July 2003.

7. A LAN network with internet access via V Sat was established with supply of necessary equipment in the office of Foreign Minister.

8. 12 courses have been indentified ofr training of 250 Afghan police officers and cadets in india, 2 courses have been already completed and 7 are currently running at various police academies in inida (God they all would be so friendly to us)

9. A computer training center has been setup in Kabul for providing training to Afghan officials.

10. Deputation of experts to assist Central Bank of Afghanistan.

11. Approximately 19 ton of vegetable seeds have been supplied to the agriculture ministry.

12. Training of Afghan doctors and paramedics from “Indra Ghandhi Institute of Child Health” at All India Institute of Medical Sciences for 3 months started in 2002.

13. Three airbuses aircrafts gifted to Afghan Airlines (Gosh india is rich)

14. Made in India show was held under the auspices of the Confederation of Indian Industry.

It can be ascertained that india would continue to enhance its influence in Afghanistan in order to exacerbate Pakistan’s internal front and ensure substantial military commitment by Pakistan along with Pak-Afghan border by having best relations with the present Afghan leadership, possessing anti Pakistan sentiments.

Analysis of Indian Design


Strategic and Political Aim

Present Afghan govt is being used by india for the purpose of:

1. On the occasion of reopening ceremony of Indian embassy in Kabul Mr Jaswant Singh said, “I have the distinction of formally reopening the Indian mission in Kabul after a painful gap of long time. India by conviction is a great power, but it is nit flexing its muscles. We are simply telling that rest of the world that india is on the march, and it will not be stopped. It is much better that the rest of the world recognizes this fact.”

2. In the ongoing war in Afghanistan, india was so eager to be a party to GWOT. India wants to kill four birds in one go:

a. Gain its share of loaf in Afghanistan.

b. Fulfill its aim in Kashmir on the plea that ‘it is also against terrorism’

c. ‘Kashmiri terrorism’ means backed by Pakistan so the war against Pakistan should be supported by the world.

d. Anything involving Pakistan to Bin Laden is Muslim terrorism, so anti Muslim hype can be and is being whipped up in india.


Threats Emanating from Indian Designs
Afghanistan
India lost direct access to Afghanistan and became dependent on Pakistan for maintaining contacts including trade relation between the two countries. However, india is pursuing its desire of enhancing its global reach by having friendly relation with Afghanistan and Iran:

1. Excellent political relations with the Afghan leadership and foreseeable prospect for large scale economic cooperation have come to define india’s ‘forward policy’ in Afghanistan.

2. Afghanistan has approved more investment proposals in the last year than in previous 46 years.

3. India is expected to waive all duties on certain types of dry fuites and precious stones from Afghanistan. In return india will get duty free access for tea, medicine and other items.

Hostile Western Border
indian diplomatic corps is reportedly busy cultivating relations with importnat militray commanders operating close to Pakistani boders, moreover, india is busy in making all her efforts to create a gulf of misunderstanding between Pakistan and Afghanistan. Following will give more details.

Durand Line
Controversy concerning in Pak-Afghan border, the sources asserted that it was just a canard motived by vested interests demanding demarcation of international border.

Pakhtoonistan
It is one of the prime intrests of idia to keep the issue of so called Pakhtoonistan alive. indian has always been very supportive, and after 1965 war announced its open support to the so called 'Pakhtoonistan movement'

Law and Order
indian connections with former Afghan President Rabbani primarily dirceted towards creating problems for Pakistan.

Economic Threat
india is trying to bypass Pakistan by developing relations with the required infrastructure through Iran's Chahbahar port to have access to landlocked CARs and European countries.

india is basically desirous to divert the attention of international market and especially CARs away from Pakistan.

Tashkent's focus had shifted from Karachi to Mumbai for access to a global market.

Maligning Pakistan's Image

india has launched a strong media campaign, as evident from some of the following:
-' We are amused, disappointed but not surprised by refusal of Pakistan to cooperate with us to eradicate scourge of terrorism.

-'Together with Afghanistan, Pakistan became the epicenter of international terrorism. So long as this activity was promoted Pakistan's strategic interests were directed against india and it was ignored by the West'

-'While deep concerns are mounting about the nexus between fundamentalism, terrorism anmd weapons of mass destruction, the spot light is not on Pakistan, which has all the three ingredients of concern, plus the additional one of fears of it becoming a 'Failed State'.

We have seen how there is a remarkable lack of curiosity about Pakistan's nuclear connections with North Korea in exchange for missile technology, which poses grave challenges to indian security.

-'Pakistan is also deeply enmeshed in a narcotics problem that is complex, multifaceted and growing. Pakistan is a major producer of opium'.
 
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Long tiopic cant read that much.
But I put few things

Pakistani Government, Arm forces, ISI and other intelligent Agencies know all Indian activities in Afghanistan. They surely have made some strategies. So it wouldnt be easy for INDIA. Infact its Indian dream and will remain a dream.

Now lets come to Pakistan Northern area, After "Nizam-e-Adul" I feel every thing would be calm down. people are looking for peace now. Pakhtoonistan issue seems to me finished from last few months.

Keeping in mind threats from India we should think positive. I hope soon every thing would be ok.

There is a problem in Blochistan but it would be resolved shortly.
Just pray.

I think when USA moves out from Afghanistan, India would go down to the bottom.
 
Long tiopic cant read that much.
But I put few things

Pakistani Government, Arm forces, ISI and other intelligent Agencies know all Indian activities in Afghanistan. They surely have made some strategies. So it wouldnt be easy for INDIA. Infact its Indian dream and will remain a dream.

Now lets come to Pakistan Northern area, After "Nizam-e-Adul" I feel every thing would be calm down. people are looking for peace now. Pakhtoonistan issue seems to me finished from last few months.

Keeping in mind threats from India we should think positive. I hope soon every thing would be ok.

There is a problem in Blochistan but it would be resolved shortly.
Just pray.

I think when USA moves out from Afghanistan, India would go down to the bottom.

Well you might be right regarding the 'steps' being taken by Pakistan to counter indian influence, but i personally feel that with US' presence in Afghanistan this won't be an easy task to perform.

Moreover, the US and india both are trying increase their 'intimacy', the civilian nuclear deal and projection of india as, at least a sub-continental power are some visible markings.
 
well the problem is we played friends with INDIA for way to long we need to have a strong hostile approach towards india again....the parity INDIA and pakistan had is gone....Taliban feel let down and back stabbed....one thing we should have learned is that INDIA is very good at continenous efforts to destablize pakistan as for us we change government we change our approach our FOREIGN POLICY IS DECIDED BY THE PERSON WHO IS POWER.....
 
well the problem is we played friends with INDIA for way to long we need to have a strong hostile approach towards india again....the parity INDIA and pakistan had is gone....Taliban feel let down and back stabbed....one thing we should have learned is that INDIA is very good at continenous efforts to destablize pakistan as for us we change government we change our approach our FOREIGN POLICY IS DECIDED BY THE PERSON WHO IS POWER.....

And who is exactly will benefit from this hostility and this tense relations except that they would cause losses to each other, things like Airline crossing airspaces will stop causing only losses Indian ocean payings will be charged at sky high rates and god knows what not, I disagree with a hostile relation policy with India.
 
Looking at the red points in enigma's posts I could not help wondering at India's efforts to impress Afghan people. From medicines, police training to network help and musical instruments, and aircrafts and buses. Really impressive!
Don't you think?

And none of these red ones seem to be against Pakistan in an active way. I mean they are instruments of soft power. Cannot be countered at all unless Pak comes with an even more aggressive response with similar helpful actions(or an alternative way of sabotage, they way they did with Kabul embassy).
Afghanistan can only prosper if there is such a competition.:tup:
 
since we haven't been hostile towards india Blane look at what has happened our enemy regrouped and attacked us ad is defeating us in MEDIA,NWFP,BALOCHISTAN.....with rivalry you compete and competition leads to development....
 
since we haven't been hostile towards india Blane look at what has happened our enemy regrouped and attacked us ad is defeating us in MEDIA,NWFP,BALOCHISTAN.....with rivalry you compete and competition leads to development....

We need to counter this by self developement and make our system good enough to show people they want to join us and not anyone else untill then we cannot compete Indian agenda's as you percieve them to be.
 
Looking at the red points in enigma's posts I could not help wondering at India's efforts to impress Afghan people. From medicines, police training to network help and musical instruments, and aircrafts and buses. Really impressive!
Don't you think?
Ya really impressive.

indians are going really down to the meanest level, tomorrow we may find them even sending undergarments for Afghanis.

BTW, if you require the sources, i can provide them.

And none of these red ones seem to be against Pakistan in an active way. I mean they are instruments of soft power. Cannot be countered at all unless Pak comes with an even more aggressive response with similar helpful actions(or an alternative way of sabotage, they way they did with Kabul embassy).
Afghanistan can only prosper if there is such a competition.:tup:
You are such a kind hearted indian, i hope all of us learn some lessons from you.

Probably the Afghanis have been convertees from hinduism therefore you both have such a eternal bond among yourselves.

BTW all these 'soft powers' of your are really cute, but they are directed towards one thing-to win the minds of war torn, illiterate, unaware and guileless minds of Afghani people, which when done would yield the ultimate goal of having an Afghan populace who would harbor hatred towards Pakistan.
 
Ya really impressive.

indians are going really down to the meanest level, tomorrow we may find them even sending undergarments for Afghanis.

BTW, if you require the sources, i can provide them.


You are such a kind hearted indian, i hope all of us learn some lessons from you.

Probably the Afghanis have been convertees from hinduism therefore you both have such a eternal bond among yourselves.

BTW all these 'soft powers' of your are really cute, but they are directed towards one thing-to win the minds of war torn, illiterate, unaware and guileless minds of Afghani people, which when done would yield the ultimate goal of having an Afghan populace who would harbor hatred towards Pakistan.


I think US is sending undergarments to pakistan......:lol::rofl:
 
well the problem is we played friends with INDIA for way to long we need to have a strong hostile approach towards india again....the parity INDIA and pakistan had is gone....Taliban feel let down and back stabbed....one thing we should have learned is that INDIA is very good at continenous efforts to destablize pakistan as for us we change government we change our approach our FOREIGN POLICY IS DECIDED BY THE PERSON WHO IS POWER.....

You can please share with us if you have anything to remind how you showed friendship towards India ? I can remember Parliament attack , Kargil War etc...You can please share with us if we miss something...
 
You can please share with us if you have anything to remind how you showed friendship towards India ? I can remember Parliament attack , Kargil War etc...You can please share with us if we miss something...

Yes how about dismemberment of Pakistan by a covert and then a blatantly overt war in 1971? My friend, for some reason you folks only want to remind us about us betraying the friendship of the 90s as if there is nothing beyond that. How about the issue of getting stabbed in the back by India in 1971? :tsk:

On another thread folks are suggesting that Pakistan has nothing to worry about with regards to India...I beg to differ. If such is the case then the proof of the pudding is in the eating...lets see some real CBMs put forth by India to resolve the Kashmir issue so for once and for all both of these countries can turn a new leaf and get on with the business of getting along nicely.
 
I think need to look more deep inside the historic confederation of Afghan president Dawood and Indian PM Ghandi against Pakistan. And now Indian open involvement in Baluchistan . When evidence forward to US govt, then turned silent. And India knows very well, what s going on, and they are paying the sins of past, which can not be buried.
In same context we talk about Kargil war, but Indian never admit, they are responsible of this confrontation, when their troops occupied Siachen. These adventures of Indian govt has forced Pakistan to divert it resource toward India rather terrorism. Pakistan need to save itself not only with the border with India, but increasing influence of Indian intelligence and army in Afghanistan. If more Indian involvement increase in Afghanistan then it will be more and more hard for Pakistan to fight against terrorism. Because Pakistan can't keep much attention toward these militants.
But on the other hand another player of the game in China, which is looking for right time to touch Afghan land. Which Indian won't like.
 
staying on the note that blain brought up builiding Dams in kashmir is also i guess an Indian way of friendship....since 2001 all pakistan has done is tried to be friendly and i guess that is why we are left behind in the parity....because we stopped competing...competition is healthy...and by competition i don't mean militarily...i mean sports,education,healthcare etc.

@ enigma THANK YOU....you took the words out of my mouth there....
 
Ya really impressive.

indians are going really down to the meanest level, tomorrow we may find them even sending undergarments for Afghanis.

BTW, if you require the sources, i can provide them.
You cannot downplay the importance of underwear.:rofl: And how is exporting underwear mean?

Probably the Afghanis have been convertees from hinduism therefore you both have such a eternal bond among yourselves.
Are you saying you are directly from the Prophet's(PBUH) family lineage?

BTW all these 'soft powers' of your are really cute, but they are directed towards one thing-to win the minds of war torn, illiterate, unaware and guileless minds of Afghani people, which when done would yield the ultimate goal of having an Afghan populace who would harbor hatred towards Pakistan.
You cannot attack someone with soft power. You only maintain good relations difficult to destroyed by prejudice. And their illiteracy etc., should not matter as long as they are being helped.
 

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