Indian Navys' Wait For 2 New gen Frontline Warships will be over

[Gessler]

Livefist: New Pictures: 1st Kolkata-class Destroyer Ready For Indian Navy

 

[Dash]

so they finally inducted it without the LR-SAM, okey....

 

[kaykay]

so they finally inducted it without the LR-SAM, okey....

This 2 month old report says that radar and support equipments are being interegated for LR-SAM test on 'One' ship. Its anyone's guess that which ship is that.
Radar integration begins on Indian Navy Ship for LR-SAM tests

 

[spectribution]

What are you smoking? what incredibly high criteria?
INS Kamorta Runs Aground >> Naval Today

The Indian Navy’s new corvette, INS Kamorta, ran aground in the Hooghly on Friday during sea trials, according to the Times of India.

The ship is currently being built by Garden Reach Shipbuilders and Engineers (GRSE).

As explained by Navy officers, the ship’s engines failed and pulled it away from its course.

Go trolling somewhere else.

GRSE Has Taken The INS Kamorta Out For A Spin - First Ever Visual [Image Of The Day] - AA Me, IN

Pakistanis can't even build 500 ton corvette. Look at Kamorta, sea trials done and ready.

Exactly. China rejected Russia's Su-35 offer because J-10B is a superior fighter. The new breed of Chinese warships like Type 052D are modeled after American style. China has not bought a ship from Russia since decades ago. Type 052D was launched nearly 7 years after INS Kolkata was launched, and is already about to be inducted in a month or two. INS Kolkata's CIWS are not as good as those on Type 052D. AK 630 is not closed loop like Phalanx, Goalkeeper, Type 730, and lacks EO targeting.

Comparison of some modern CIWS
AK-630[12] AK-630M1-2[6] Phalanx CIWS [13] Goalkeeper CIWS DARDO[14]
Weight9,114 kg (20,093 lb)11,819 kg (26,056 lb)6,200 kg (13,700 lb)9,902 kg (21,830 lb)5,500 kg (12,100 lb)
Armament30 mm (1.2 in) 6 barreled GSh-6-30rotary cannon2 × 30 mm (1.2 in) 6 barreled GSh-6-30 rotary cannon20 mm (0.79 in) 6 barreled M61 Vulcanrotary cannon30 mm (1.2 in) 7 barreled GAU-8 rotary cannon40 mm (1.6 in) 2 barreled Bofors 40 mm
Rate of Fire5,000 rounds per minute10,000 rounds per minute4,500 rounds per minute4,200 rounds per minute600/900 rounds per minute
(effective/ flat-trajectory) Range4,000 m (13,000 ft)4,000 m (13,000 ft)3,600 m (11,800 ft)2,000 m (6,600 ft)4,000 m (13,000 ft)
Ammunition storage2,000 rounds4,000 rounds1,550 rounds1,190 rounds736 rounds
Muzzle velocity900 m (3,000 ft) per second900 m (3,000 ft) per second1,100 m (3,600 ft) per second1,109 m (3,638 ft) per second1,000 m (3,300 ft) per second
Elevation-12 to +88 degrees-25 to +90 degrees-25 to +85 degrees-25 to +85 degrees-13 to +85 degrees
Traverse±180 degrees±180 degrees-150 to +150 degrees360 degrees360 degrees
Straight in your face. TYPE 052D uses AN SPY 1D copy PESA radar. INS KOLKATA uses AESA radar. Masthead design is far more advanced than panel antenna.

VLS - INS Kolkata 64 SAM
16 Brahmos

Type 052D 64 all/

 

[Dash]

This 2 month old report says that radar and support equipments are being interegated for LR-SAM test on 'One' ship. Its anyone's guess that which ship is that.
Radar integration begins on Indian Navy Ship for LR-SAM tests

THats great!, my bad didnt notice it!!..

 

[$@rJen]

To be fair, Type 052C destroyers all have Chinese radars, sonars, engines, weapons. And that's a pretty old ship class, operational since 2004. Type 052C are getting replaced by Type 052D beginning this year, which are far more advanced.

Oh Realyy........ I'll say only one main thing in it.... The engine is Ukraine.. You bought the tech to Licence build in China... That's not called Indigenous..

 

[kaykay]

All about Kolkata class's AESA radar.
EL/M-2248 MF-STAR

 

[Roybot]

Imported radars


India basically spent over 10 years fiiling up an empty shell with foreign parts、components and subsystems。

Yet the ship will remain a sitting duck till the delivery of Israel's LRSAM after 2018.

Pride of INS。。。And the world waits。。。。

To be fair, Type 052C destroyers all have Chinese radars, sonars, engines, weapons. And that's a pretty old ship class, operational since 2004. Type 052C are getting replaced by Type 052D beginning this year, which are far more advanced.

O really? Lets see,

Type 52c Destroyer​

Propulsion: Ukranian and German

The first two ships' propulsion is in the form of CODOG, consisting of two Ukraine-made DA80/DN80 gas turbines each rated at ~32,600 hp(24 MW) and two Shaanxi diesel engines (Chinese licensed production of the MTU 20V956TB92 (German)) each rated at ~6,700 hp (5 MW). The DA80/DN80 gas turbine is the export version of UGT-25000 of Ukrainian Zorya-Mashprocket State State Enterprise Gas Turbine Research & Production Complex, purchased by China in the late 1990s as part of license-production in China. [1]The UGT25000 has power rating of 25-27MW depending on configuration [2], but could only provide 24MW upon delivery because development was not fully completed when they were sold to China. A total of eight units were originally purchased and Chinese sources have claimed that all had been upgraded, mainly in the area of turbine blade production techniques, and such update had greatly increased reliability and maintainability.

Radar: Ukranian origin

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The August 2009 report from the Office of Naval Intelligence states that “the Luyang II DDG possesses a sophisticated phased-array radar system similar to the western AEGIS radar system.” 2009 ONI Report, p. 1. Another author states that “the Chinese bought their active-array destroyer radar from the Ukrainian Kvant organization, which is unlikely to have the resources to develop the project much further.” (Norman Friedman, “Russian Arms Industry Foundering,” U.S. Naval Institute Proceedings, September 2009: 90-91.

Armament: Ex Soviet, French

HQ9: Copy of Russian S-300V

Cruise Missiles: Made with the help of ex Soviet scientists

Type 210 100mm naval gun: Modified copy of French 100mm Naval Gun

Type 730 CIWS: External design copy of Dutch Goalkeeper, Internal copy of French, Sagem Volcan.

ASW Capabilites: French, European

Sonar: Modified French DUBV-23 sonar

Helicopters : Russian Kamov Ka-28 or Z9 (Chinese copy of Eurocopter Dauphin)

Indigenous Chinese destroyer eh . More like the United Nations destroyer

 

[cirr]

Wait over？

These lame ducks will be without proper air cover till the Israelis deliver LRSAM after 2018.

 

[$@rJen]

Wait over？

These lame ducks will be without proper air cover till the Israelis deliver LRSAM after 2018.

Look Like CCP didn't let you develop ur Knowledge.... Keep dreaming it 2018... I suggest you to go through the thread or packup and leave the thread instead of Trolling

 

[kaykay]

Wait over？

These lame ducks will be without proper air cover till the Israelis deliver LRSAM after 2018.

LR-SAMs are being integrated dumb slavebot.

 

[cirr]

O really? Lets see,

Type 52c Destroyer​

Propulsion: Ukranian and German

The first two ships' propulsion is in the form of CODOG, consisting of two Ukraine-made DA80/DN80 gas turbines each rated at ~32,600 hp(24 MW) and two Shaanxi diesel engines (Chinese licensed production of the MTU 20V956TB92 (German)) each rated at ~6,700 hp (5 MW). The DA80/DN80 gas turbine is the export version of UGT-25000 of Ukrainian Zorya-Mashprocket State State Enterprise Gas Turbine Research & Production Complex, purchased by China in the late 1990s as part of license-production in China. [1]The UGT25000 has power rating of 25-27MW depending on configuration [2], but could only provide 24MW upon delivery because development was not fully completed when they were sold to China. A total of eight units were originally purchased and Chinese sources have claimed that all had been upgraded, mainly in the area of turbine blade production techniques, and such update had greatly increased reliability and maintainability.

Radar: Ukranian origin

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The August 2009 report from the Office of Naval Intelligence states that “the Luyang II DDG possesses a sophisticated phased-array radar system similar to the western AEGIS radar system.” 2009 ONI Report, p. 1. Another author states that “the Chinese bought their active-array destroyer radar from the Ukrainian Kvant organization, which is unlikely to have the resources to develop the project much further.” (Norman Friedman, “Russian Arms Industry Foundering,” U.S. Naval Institute Proceedings, September 2009: 90-91.

Armament: Ex Soviet, French

HQ9: Copy of Russian S-300V

Cruise Missiles: Made with the help of ex Soviet scientists

Type 210 100mm naval gun: Modified copy of French 100mm Naval Gun

Type 730 CIWS: External design copy of Dutch Goalkeeper, Internal copy of French, Sagem Volcan.

ASW Capabilites: French, European

Sonar: Modified French DUBV-23 sonar

Helicopters : Russian Kamov Ka-28 or Z9 (Chinese copy of Eurocopter Dauphin)

Indigenous Chinese destroyer eh . More like the United Nations destroyer

Total trash。

Every bit of 052C is Chinese。

You can live in your own world till you drop dead，but you won't change the fact that 052C and its upgrade 052D are 100% Chinese，including the AESA radars v1.0 and v2.0、the engines、the main guns、the HQ-9B SAMs，the YJ-62 and YJ-18A anti-ship missiles，the HHQ-10 SAM，the 730 CIWS and a host of other systems。

If China pleases，it can churn out several dozens of these beauties each year，while it takes you lot over 10 years to make a few empty shells to be filled with imported stuff。

INS is totally and utterly dependent on foreign suppliers from the US，Russia、Israel、France and a host of other western nations。

LR-SAMs are being integrated dumb slavebot.

Dunderhead，the LRSAM from Israel won't be ready for integration into your rusty vessel before 2018.

 

[kaykay]

Total trash。

Every bit of 052C is Chinese。

You can live in your own world till you drop dead，but you won't change the fact that 052C and its upgrade 052D are 100% Chinese，including the AESA radars v1.0 and v2.0、the engines、the main guns、the HQ-9B SAMs，the YJ-62 and YJ-18A anti-ship missiles，the HHQ-10 SAM，the 730 CIWS and a host of other systems。

If China pleases，it can churn out several dozens of these beauties each year，while it takes you lot over 10 years to make a few empty shells to be filled with imported stuff。

INS is totally and utterly dependent on foreign suppliers from the US，Russia、Israel、France and a host of other western nations。



Dunderhead，the LRSAM from Israel won't be ready for integration into your rusty vessel before 2018.

dumba$$ do some research before talk like a typical CCP slave.
Radar integration begins on Indian Navy Ship for LR-SAM tests

 

[Rangila]

AESA, 64 VLS for SAMs and 16 other for Brahmos super sonic cruise missiles. Thats something.

AESA?
where is it?

 

[Roybot]

Total trash。

Every bit of 052C is Chinese。

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Haha what a rebuttal.