Indian Navy Soon To Be The Most Formidable Submarine Force On The Planet! Here’s What You Need To Kn

[rockstar08]

I guess sensible Indians Members know that their Navy is a potent force , but they still cant beat US Navy , French , China , Russia and probably Others ...

 

[Skywalker]

For the fool who thinks that an Indian Prime Minister lives in rashter pati bhawan :

The Indian Prime Minister does not live in the Rashtrapati Bhavan as the Rashtrapati Bhavan is the Official Residence of the Prime Minister!

For the fool who lives in Britain representing the one billion fools, does not understand joke.

 

[Heinz Guderian]

For the fool who lives in Britain representing the one billion fools, does not understand joke.

Its 7, Race Course Road, Prime Minister Residence or generally say 7 RCR. Rashtrapati Bhavan is not residence of PM.

 

[longewala]

One if the differences between India and Pakistan:
When someone writes some stupid article / headline like this about the Indian military, Indians themselves lead the way in mocking and laughing at them

But when a similarly dumb article or headline is out on the pakistani military or their equipment, they actually believe it and get really touchy if you mock them

That's why, for instance, you have a thousand indian press reports or blogs criticising arjun or tejas, but absolutely nothing equivalent for the seemingly perfect mbt-2000 / 3000 or chengdu jf-17.

One of the many things that make you grateful to be indian.

 

[IND151]

Title should be

Indian Navy Soon To Be The Most Formidable Submarine Force in The Region! Here’s What You Need To Know

USN remains number one, followed by RuN,

PLAN, FN, Royal Navy, Japanese Navy etc.

 

[WAR-rior]

Baba black Sheep have you got any fools
Yes sir yes sir plenty of fools
One is the Indian public
One is the Indian media.....
One is the pm who who lives in rashter pati bhawan.

It's Rashtrapati not Rashterpati. That language is used by uneducated Bhaiyyas from North India in our country. And taking bout education you shud know if you aren't one of the millions uneducated Pakistanis that Rashtrapati means President not Prime minister which is called Pradhan Mantri.

Rashterpati. . Ka Ho babua. Paachvi fail Hu ho ka?

 

[nair]

Is there a training for journo's on writing article titles?

 

[GURU DUTT]

For the fool who thinks that an Indian Prime Minister lives in rashter pati bhawan :

The Indian Prime Minister does not live in the Rashtrapati Bhavan as the Rashtrapati Bhavan is the Official Residence of the Prime Minister!

wrong again sir Rashtrpati bhawan is the persisident of indias residence who is also the supreme commander of all indian armed forces

while indian prime minister official rsidence is on 7 race course road

The most important thing about having nuclear weapons is a second strike capability. In a nuclear conflict, one who strikes first may win the war, but one who strikes second makes sure there is no one left to celebrate the win. That’s nuclear deterrence in a nutshell. While it sounds easy in theory, building a nuclear doctrine with a working second strike capability is anything but. India, for example, has declared a no-first-use of nuclear weapons. Which means, that though India will not initiate a nuclear conflict, if attacked it will retaliate with such ferocity, that it will wipe the enemy off the face of the map. How does India intend to do this? Like any other superpower, India wants to use submarines.

Submarines for projection of power



If you think about it, submarines are the perfect weapons. Lurking in the depths of the oceans, they move around without being detected and surface to launch the attack on the unsuspecting enemy. Erstwhile superpowers USA and Russia continue to use their SSBNs (ballistic missile submarines) to great effect, projecting their might even today. These SSBNs ensure that even though the land-based missiles and airplanes may have been taken out, the enemy is guaranteed a sending off that it will never forget. And if India wants to be taken seriously on the world stage, it will have to start acting like a superpower, by being able to extend the country’s power across the globe. These submarines are therefore just what India needs.

Current state of submarine force

The current state of the Navy’s underwater fleet is, for lack of a better word, worrisome. India currently has 9 Sindhughosh class (Soviet Kilo class) and 4 Shishumar-class (German HDW Type 209) diesel electric subs and a single nuclear powered INS Chakra (Akula II class) sub. For a country with a coastline that measures more than 7,500 km, a fleet of 15 submarines is just not enough. And 15 isn’t the actual number of subs available for duty, because some of them are in ports for refits and maintenance. In comparison, China has a total of 67 submarines in its Navy.

Nuclear Submarine Program

India started building its first nuclear submarine, the INS Arihant, under the highly secretive ATV program. In fact the project was such a secret, that it wasn’t until July 2009, when it was actually launched, that it was even officially acknowledged to exist. Work though had started back in the 80s, with Soviet help, to build a nuclear powered hunter-killer sub. India also leased a Charlie-I sub named the INS Chakra between 1987 and 1991 to gain experience in operating nuclear subs. The ATV though moved on from being an attack sub to a ballistic missile carrier as India conducted the second set of nuclear tests in Pokhran. The biggest challenge faced was in miniaturising the Pressurised Light Water Reactor which could fit in the tight confines of the sub’s hull. Based on a Russian design, a land-based version was built by BARC before the actual reactor, of a reported 83 MW capacity, was placed in the sub.

The INS Arihant, after launch in 2009, went through an extensive set of tests including harbour acceptance trials with the on-board reactor going critical in 2013. But it was only in December 2014 that it left the harbour for its sea trials. The Navy Chief, Admiral R K Dhowan, had recently stated that the sea trials of the sub are going “very well”, but refused to give a deadline for their completion.

According to reports, the Arihant should be commissioned by the end of this year, after which it can be put on active patrol duty. But before that can happen, it will have to integrate its primary weapon, the K-15 SLBM (Submarine Launched Ballistic Missile). The Arihant will carry up to 12 of these nuclear capable missiles with a range of 750 km. While this reach is quite low to hit deep inland targets from the middle of the seas, another missile, the K-4 with a range of 3,500 km is also in the works. In fact, a test of the K-4 has reportedly been carried out in secret. Beyond these, the K-5 missile, with a range of 5,000 km, is also being planned. The latter will likely be deployed with MIRVs (Multiple Independently Targetable Reentry Vehicle) which give each missile the ability to target up to four or more targets.

Although the INS Arihant can carry either 12 K-15s or 4 K-4s, the 3 boats which will follow, will be able to carry up to 8 K-4s or 24 K-15s. The next one will be christened INS Aridhaman. And since the rest of the Arihant-class boats will be bigger than the lead boat, they are also expected to have a more powerful nuclear reactor. The crews for these missile carriers are gaining experience in operating nuclear boats on the Akula II class INS Chakra that India had leased in 2012 for ten years.

Future Nuclear Boats

But it doesn’t stop here. A follow-on class of 6 SSBNs codenamed S5, almost twice as big as the Arihant-class, was also approved for development. These will be able to carry up to 12 K5 intercontinental ballistic missiles with MIRV warheads. And SSBNs aren’t the only nuclear submarines that the Indian Navy will field. Early this year, the government cleared a project to build six new hunter killer boats (SSN) for the Navy. A joint Navy, BARC and DRDO project, the boats will be designed by Navy’s Directorate of Naval Design and be powered by a new reactor being developed by BARC. SSNs are as important as SSBNs as they can blockade important sea routes, denying the enemy access to important resources in an event of war, and shadow enemy ships. This new SSN will be similar in size to the Arihant-class but will carry advanced torpedoes and be able to move much quicker. Also, India is likely to lease another Akula II for 10 years in 2018, most likely the Kashalot that is 60% complete and in need of funds.

Conventional Submarines

Things are looking up for India’s conventional submarine fleet too. Under the Project-75, six French-Spanish Scorpene submarines are being constructed at Mazagon Dock Ltd. The first of these, named INS Kalvari, has recently been ‘undocked’ and will undergo sea trials next year and is expected to be commissioned into the Navy by September 2016. Incidentally, Indian Navy’s first ever submarine, which was a Soviet Foxtrot-class sub, was also called the INS Kalvari. The name Kalvari means Tiger Shark, and in naval tradition, the line of subs will be called the Kalvari-class. Although late by nearly four years, the Kalvari-class will add a punch to the dwindling underwater arm of the Navy. The nearly 1600-tonne subs have a complement of 31 men and can stay out to sea for 50 days. Its two diesel generation sets give it a submerged top speed of 20 knots (37 km/h). Its weapons suite includes Black Shark heavy weight torpedoes that can sink a ship 50 kms away and Exocet anti-ship missile that travels a few feet from the surface of the sea and hits the hull of a target that’s 180 km away. It’s also one of the stealthiest diesel electric submarines in operation with emphasis on reducing hydrodynamic noise, which makes it invisible to enemy sonar. The last two boats of the class will also feature a DRDO designed Air Independent Propulsion (AIP) system which will give it longer endurance and make it stealthier because they won’t need to surface for air to charge the batteries.

Alongside the Kalvari-class will be six of the next generation P75(I) diesel electric submarines, all of which will be built in India. Apart from the ability to fire long range heavy weight wire guided torpedoes and an AIP system, this new line of subs can also feature land attack capability. For this, the submarines will have to integrate a Vertical Launching System in the hull. The VLS will allows subs (and surface ships) to carry the world’s fastest cruise missile, the Brahmos, with a range of 290 km and the under development Nirbhaya cruise missile which has a range of 1,000 km. The Brahmos has already demonstrated the underwater launch capability and Nirbhaya too is being designed for launch from multiple platforms. But it remains to be seen if this capability can be integrated into the boats that are likely in contention. DCNS is expected to offer the Scorpene, while Russia is pitching the Amur 1650 which is the export version of the Lada class, which itself is an advance variant of the Kilo-class already in service with the Indian Navy. Other contenders include the S-80 by Navantia of Spain and the German HDW Type 214. India has also asked Japan to participate in the competition with its Soryu-class subs.

So India is likely to field nearly 28 submarines including Arihant class subs, Follow-on SSBNs, New SSNs, 6 Kalvari class SSKs and 6 more P 75(I) boats, making it the most formidable submarine force in the Indian Ocean region.

Indian Navy Soon To Be The Most Formidable Submarine Force On The Planet! Here's What You Need To Know

the writer of the article should be fired cause a person who cant diffrenciate between south asia and planet earth cannot be taken serousli and will make mistakes which will be embarresment to the news house and also his nation and profession

any way do these projected subs have DSI

 

[Heinz Guderian]

Is there a training for journo's on writing article titles?

Thats for Indian audience, not for PDF.

 

[GURU DUTT]

I guess sensible Indians Members know that their Navy is a potent force , but they still cant beat US Navy , French , China , Russia and probably Others ...

we are not going to war with USA , France , UK ,Israel or russia but there is a question mark on chinese navy while pakistan is owr mortal enemy

 

[rockstar08]

we are not going to war with USA , France , UK ,Israel or russia but there is a question mark on chinese navy while pakistan is owr mortal enemy

Exactly , you dont want , nor you cant
plus Chinese Navy is not some piece of cake ... you either like it or not , by 2020 they will become No.2 Navy in the world beating Russians ..

 

[GURU DUTT]

Exactly , you dont want , nor you cant
plus Chinese Navy is not some piece of cake ... you either like it or not , by 2020 they will become No.2 Navy in the world beating Russians ..

well we are concerned about indian ocean , by of bengal & arabian sea we have no designs beyond malacca starits but chinse do have good for them if they become number two navy in the world by 2020 but will indian navy be a push over for them ... try thinking about it

we are not just investing in latest miltarry hardware USA,Russia,france , israel or japan is offring but we are making some serous stuff owrselfs and it will onli get better unlike some pakistani members we indians dont become cheerleader for USA,Israel , UK ,France or Russia we belave in making owrselfs stronger both internalli and externalli than finding& trumpeting might of so called "friends not masters, all weather friends or big brothers"

 

[rockstar08]

well we are concerned about indian ocean , by of bengal & arabian sea we have no designs beyond malacca starits but chinse do have good for them if they become number two navy in the world by 2020 but will indian navy be a push over for them ... try thinking about it

we are not just investing in latest miltarry hardware USA,Russia,france , israel or japan is offring but we are making some serous stuff owrselfs and it will onli get better unlike some pakistani members we indians dont become cheerleader for USA,Israel , UK ,France or Russia we belave in making owrselfs stronger both internalli and externalli than finding& trumpeting might of so called "friends not masters, all weather friends or big brothers"

your frustration is easily see from your post ..
Indians do have potent navy and can fight back but still you cant fight Chinese Navy ,
plus its good for your country if you are making some quality stuff but i would like to tell you that our NAVY is working on many projects , some of them i should mention which we build at home ,
Augusta 90b Sub
F-22P frigate
azmat class FAC
JF-17 Thunder
Babur Naval Version

and probably other which i dont know , cause i have no source for that matter ..
plus Pakistani's are not Chinese Cheerleaders , unlike Indians dance with pants down in front of Israeli's
our Relationship with China is like brothers , that is why you seen their Quality weapons and system inducting in Pakistan's Armed forces time to time ..

 

[GURU DUTT]

your frustration is easily see from your post ..
Indians do have potent navy and can fight back but still you cant fight Chinese Navy ,
plus its good for your country if you are making some quality stuff but i would like to tell you that our NAVY is working on many projects , some of them i should mention which we build at home ,
Augusta 90b Sub
F-22P frigate
azmat class FAC
JF-17 Thunder
Babur Naval Version

and probably other which i dont know , cause i have no source for that matter ..
plus Pakistani's are not Chinese Cheerleaders , unlike Indians dance with pants down in front of Israeli's
our Relationship with China is like brothers , that is why you seen their Quality weapons and system inducting in Pakistan's Armed forces time to time ..

he he he he are you serous ?

we are not going to war with chinese the way u think we have other ideas

chinese navy has to come into indian ocean to fight us not the other way round

since you dont have any knowledge about naval bettles and is a "name dropper"let me tell you we have much much more surprises in store for any agrassor and guess what chinese know it way too well

we have been oprating and using CBGs for almost half a centuarry and till 2020 well have atleast three if not four CBGs

now for subs i guess many indian posters have already mentioned here in detail

ever wondered what a bhramos ALCM and mig 29K combo doto any naval ship or surface target owt there ?

and thats just the tip of an ice berg called indian navy good luck and happy dreaming to you

 

[rockstar08]

he he he he are you serous ?

we are not going to war with chinese the way u think we have other ideas

chinese navy has to come into indian ocean to fight us not the other way round

since you dont have any knowledge about naval bettles and is a "name dropper"let me tell you we have much much more surprises in store for any agrassor and guess what chinese know it way too well

we have been oprating and using CBGs for almost half a centuarry and till 2020 well have atleast three if not four CBGs

now for subs i guess many indian posters have already mentioned here in detail

ever wondered what a bhramos ALCM and mig 29K combo doto any naval ship or surface target owt there ?

and thats just the tip of an ice berg called indian navy good luck and happy dreaming to you

a post that highly infested with brain Farts ...
we have this we have that , we can do this and that ..

plus even if China want to come inside your waters ,they can come and beat you , you can only try to defend , not completely match them , so learn to live in real world instead of Fantasy land ..

and Bhramos , lolz please you know how much CM and Anti-Ships Missiles China have ? lolz
you must be kidding about mig 29k , lol they are operating J-series , and also look at their Sub fleet , unlike yours , hitting against the wall in your ports hahaha