Indian Navy issues RFI for new aircraft

[jha]

Also, I want to put forth a question that-

Is there in a provision for a situation where:-
1. The Carrier with its planes on-board reaches its designated position in sea and planes on-board take-off.
2. At the same time, some planes(Naval versions that can land and take-off from carriers) from coastal bases also take-off and move towards the carriers.
3. When they reach the carrier, they land and mount their weapons, refill their tanks and again take-off.
4. They accompany the the fighters that had took-off(in 1.) and execute their mission.
5.Then the fighters of (1.) land on the deck. They refill and take-off from the deck and continue with their objectives.
6. If needed, the planes that had taken-off in 2. land on the deck to refill or directly head back to the coastal base.

Please answer even if any future provisions are also there. Attack a file or link that justifies it, if possible.

If managed properly, then in this way, we can operate twice as much as planes as we can take on the Carrier.
We can also deploy as many fighters as we want, only and only if we manage them well enough.

To understand it better, think of a juggler(as we see in circus) to be the carrier and the 3-4 balls that go around his palms as the groups of the planes.

Please comment.

This will need highest co-ordination ...plus it will prove as a nightmare for the support staff on the carrier.

 

[sancho]

Sancho -

Are you saying we need to go for F-35?

No I am against it, why do you think so?

Also, I want to put forth a question that-

Is there in a provision for a situation where:-
1. The Carrier with its planes on-board reaches its designated position in sea and planes on-board take-off.
2. At the same time, some planes(Naval versions that can land and take-off from carriers) from coastal bases also take-off and move towards the carriers.
3. When they reach the carrier, they land and mount their weapons, refill their tanks and again take-off.
4. They accompany the the fighters that had took-off(in 1.) and execute their mission.
5.Then the fighters of (1.) land on the deck. They refill and take-off from the deck and continue with their objectives.
6. If needed, the planes that had taken-off in 2. land on the deck to refill or directly head back to the coastal base.

Please answer even if any future provisions are also there. Attack a file or link that justifies it, if possible.

If managed properly, then in this way, we can operate twice as much as planes as we can take on the Carrier.
We can also deploy as many fighters as we want, only and only if we manage them well enough.

To understand it better, think of a juggler(as we see in circus) to be the carrier and the 3-4 balls that go around his palms as the groups of the planes.

Please comment.

Hi archangel, I think such a scenario would be possible in theory, but the problem I see is, that the fighters that takes off from the carrier must have enough fuel to stay longer in the air, because the land based must be refuelled first, before they can fly back to their bases. That will make it pretty difficult if we don't have air refuellers, not to mention the coordination of that all.
You also have to keep in mind, that the range of the carrier would be limited, by the range of the land based fighters, but the biggest problem imo is, the logistics and maintenance. A carrier has only limited space for weapons, fuel or spares and that depends mainly on how many fighters will be carried. So if they have ti rearm and refuel twice as much fighters, they will be run out of ammo and fuel much faster and that can be replaced only by slower and smaller support vessels. It might be possible for one big hit in a short time, but not in a campaign that could take some days, or weeks.

Just my 2 cents about it!

 

[Ras]

i heard few months back that IN was going to order LCA naval version for its fleet? What are the implications of this tender on LCA?

Because the IAC2 is planned to be a lot bigger than both Vikramaditya and IAC1. The Mig's will operate from both these carriers. If the N-LCA is ever ready it will supplement these crafts.

 

[archangel]

No I am against it, why do you think so?





Hi archangel, I think such a scenario would be possible in theory, but the problem I see is, that the fighters that takes off from the carrier must have enough fuel to stay longer in the air, because the land based must be refuelled first, before they can fly back to their bases. That will make it pretty difficult if we don't have air refuellers, not to mention the coordination of that all.
You also have to keep in mind, that the range of the carrier would be limited, by the range of the land based fighters, but the biggest problem imo is, the logistics and maintenance. A carrier has only limited space for weapons, fuel or spares and that depends mainly on how many fighters will be carried. So if they have ti rearm and refuel twice as much fighters, they will be run out of ammo and fuel much faster and that can be replaced only by slower and smaller support vessels. It might be possible for one big hit in a short time, but not in a campaign that could take some days, or weeks.

Just my 2 cents about it!

Ya, I know the issues with this type of operations. If any of the links of the co-ordination between units and also between man-and-machines fails, they are sure to be in some serious trouble.

But if practised intensively, and with proper arrangements of support and logistics, it isn't impossible either. It can give us very-very large-scale off-shore air-strike capabilities.

But again the related issues pop-out like side-effects of strong medicines.