Indian Navy issues RFI for CIWS

[skysthelimit]

Indian Navy issues RFI for CIWS

The Indian Navy issued an RFI for the procurement of 20/30 mm Close in Weapon System on April 9. The goal is to procure approx twenty five 20-30 mm CIWS with the following subsytems -

1. A surveillance-cum-tracking radar
2. An Electro Optical (EO) system
3. Integrated SAM system
4. A 20-30 mm caliber gun alongwithgun control system

Major requirements sought in the RFI include -

1. Ability to search & track both sea & air targets over a 360° arc
2. Ability to target sea-skimming missiles
3. Fast switch ON capability
4. Built in Camera & Thermal Imager
5. Direct interface with ship's combat management system

Last date to respond is 30th May. For foreign vendors, the usual offset requirements apply.

Likely these CIWS systems are meant for the Vikramaditya carrier & the new Project 15A destroyers.

RFI LINK

 

[Skull and Bones]

What are the options?

 

[Omega007]

They shouldn't have included the 20mm calibre in the RFI.The 30mm rounds pack substantially greater punch but more importantly,OFB already has a well-established production line for various types of 30mm ordinances.

 

[koushik]

What are the options?

Considering the RFI requirements :-

1. Phalanx CIWS along with the 11-cell SeaRAM SAM System and 20mm autocannon

2.AK630-M with the 30mm cannon along with 9A4172 Vikhr SAM system

3.Kashtan/Kashtan-M with the 30mm cannon and the 9M311-K and 9M311-E SAM Systems..

Goalkeeper however lacks an integrated SAM System with gun based system

 

[Gessler]

@Penguin You might be interested in this.

 

[Koovie]

Arent they a bit late to start looking for CIWS for the P15As and thee Vikramaditya?

 

[koushik]

Arent they a bit late to start looking for CIWS for the P15As and thee Vikramaditya?

Well Viky was delivered without a CIWS system on board....and the Indian Navy didn't want the Kashtan to be installed because they wanted to install a new CIWS via open competition

 

[Koovie]

Well Viky was delivered without a CIWS system on board....and the Indian Navy didn't want the Kashtan to be installed because they wanted to install a new CIWS via open competition

Okay, but still.... its not that the Navy knew it only since a couple of weeks that they want another system on board the Viki.

 

[koushik]

Okay, but still.... its not that the Navy knew it only since a couple of weeks that they want another system on board the Viki.

They want a 20mm CIWS along with a 30mm CIWS system for the Carrier thats what an official said...!!
Well for the P15-A it is ok...not significantly late

 

[ptltejas]

Also need Phlanx-B CRAM system. What to say?

 

[Penguin]

Considering the RFI requirements :-

1. Phalanx CIWS along with the 11-cell SeaRAM SAM System and 20mm autocannon

2.AK630-M with the 30mm cannon along with 9A4172 Vikhr SAM system

3.Kashtan/Kashtan-M with the 30mm cannon and the 9M311-K and 9M311-E SAM Systems..

Goalkeeper however lacks an integrated SAM System with gun based system

Palma/Palash system, which has twin 30mm gatlings and Sosna-R

I'm sure it wouldn't be too difficult to couple Barak 1 into the Goalkeeper system. After all, Venezuela land forces use 40mm cannon in combination with VL Barak (both towed) and FLycatcher fire control system (from which the fire control of Goalkeeper is a derivative)
Venezuela will buy the Flycatcher - 10/21/1998 - Flight Global

Thales-Nederland B.V Flycatcher Mk.1

RAZONYFUERZA - LAS COMPRAS VENEZOLANAS A RUSIA - Otras Fuerzas Armadas Sudamericanas

 

[koushik]

I'm sure it wouldn't be too difficult to couple Barak 1 into the Goalkeeper system. After all, Venezuela land forces use 40mm cannon in combination with VL Barak (both towed) and FLycatcher fire control system (from which the fire control of Goalkeeper is a derivative)

Palma/Palash system, which has twin 30mm gatlings and Sosna-R

Yes..!! Thanks for reminding mate..!!

 

[Abingdonboy]

Arent they a bit late to start looking for CIWS for the P15As and thee Vikramaditya?

Not really, these are "plug and play" systems so once the winner is selected it will only be a matter of a few months before they are in active service.

 

[Penguin]

Likely these CIWS systems are meant for the Vikramaditya carrier & the new Project 15A destroyers.

4 P15B (2 systems each), 7 P17A (2 systems each), 1 IAC (3 systems) > 8+14+3=25

2.AK630-M with the 30mm cannon along with 9A4172 Vikhr SAM system

Vikhr-k? Doesn't that use an antitank missile? AT-16 Scallion?

Also need Phlanx-B CRAM system. What to say?

SeaRAM

Another possible Russian system: Naval Pantsir
Russian Navy to Receive Pantsir Air Defense System for Arm Warships | defencerussia

 

[Penguin]

But, you may also possible get

MSI - Defence Systems' LTD:

Зенитный ракетно-пушечный комплекс «СОСНА»
RusArmy.com - Зенитный ракетно-пушечный комплекс "Сосна"
30mm 2А38 cannon + Sosna-R

Rafael Typhoon, various possible cannon with various possible MANPADS

Incidentally, the choice of caliber rules ot the 35mm Oerlikon MILLENIUM