Indian Navy & Gulf

[StormBreaker]

IT is unfair to draw lessons from the fate of a bankrupt Egypt in the 19th century and relate it to today’s economically vibrant Gulf states. Nevertheless one can detect a beep on the radar. In 1875, Britain purchased Khedive Ismail’s shares of the Suez Canal Company to become the majority shareholder — it already had its own shares.

The khedive’s reckless modernisation drive had made Egypt go broke. The loans he had secured from European powers, especially Britain and France, enabled the two, especially the former, to interfere in Egypt’s internal matters and tighten their economic stranglehold. The number of Europeans working in Egypt had gone up phenomenally. They were ubiquitous and were resented by Egyptians, especially army officers.

In 1880, there was a row between an Egyptian donkey cart boy and a European, and this led to a riot which killed a large number of people, including Europeans. While France was reluctant to act for reasons which do not concern us here, Britain used the opportunity to occupy Egypt. Thus, the Arab world’s most important country was to remain under British control till 1952 when Gamal Abdel Nasser and Mohammad Neguib overthrew the Albanian dynasty. The reader need not be told the moral of the story: the economic control of a country by a foreign power invariably leads to the former’s enslavement.

Against this background, Pakistan must carefully watch the economic and geopolitical developments in Gulf sheikhdoms and be alert to overt and covert moves that may in the long run affect its security. The people of Pakistan have still not recovered from the shock received from some Arab countries’ reaction to India’s annexation of occupied Kashmir. Saudi Arabia was neutral, but the UAE felt no qualms about calling the Aug 5 annexation decree India’s ‘internal matter’.

It is doubtful if Gulf nations are aware of India’s naval ambitions.

Various interpretations have since then been given about why Khalifa bin Zayed al Nahyan’s government behaved the way it did. One explanation is obvious: trade between the Emirates and India is estimated at $100bn. To this must be added the crucial role Indian expatriates have played and will continue to do so in building the UAE economy and the extraordinary control they have come to exercise over business and finance in the sheikhdom.

The number of Indian nationals — nearly two million — constitutes 27pc of the Emirates’ population of 9.4m. Taken together, all Gulf states have an Indian population of 9m, and let’s be clear that in a given geopolitical turmoil this population could be an extraordinary asset to India to help New Delhi advance its interests.

K.M. Panikkar’s India and the Indian Ocean is a much-quoted book, for it gives a clear indication of what Indian strategists think of their country’s role in relation to Asia and the Middle East. The gist of the thesis is that India must step into British shoes and play the role Britain did in the geographical mass between Aden and Singapore. He argued that the Indian Ocean must “truly remain Indian”.

No wonder the ‘Persian Gulf’ finds repeated mention in the post-Panikkar era. Indian Prime Minister Atal Behari Vajpayee told a military conference in 2003 that India’s “strategic frontiers” had grown beyond South Asia and that India’s “security environment ranges from the Persian Gulf to Straits of Malacca”. Similarly, former Indian navy chief Arun Prakash said India’s “strategic relevance” ranges “from the Persian Gulf to the Strait of Malacca.”

It is doubtful if the Gulf nations are aware of India’s naval ambitions. For reasons of history and geography Arab nations (and Iran) look west and seldom bother about developments in the east. In their worldview, the Pakistan-India relationship is a minor issue — a nuisance — and does not deserve the attention we think it must. Twice this year, the UAE has stunned us. In February, it invited an Indian foreign minister to a conference of Islamic foreign ministers, and it termed the Aug 5 villainy India’s internal matter.

Read: Islamabad apprises OIC of reservation over invite to India

The Asian Arab world has virtually no navy, even though 80pc of oil shipping passes through the Gulf of Hormuz. Pakistan has a vital interest in this crucial sea lane, and it is exactly for this reason that Gwadar port is an eyesore for many governments hostile to Pakistan.

The situation calls for Pakistan’s greater collaboration with Gulf navies in a manner that pre-empts any attempt by non-Gulf powers to penetrate what undoubtedly is Pakistan’s underbelly. Let Islamabad keep its eyes and ears open so as not get caught again by surprise. Bases are not begged for; bases are extorted or imposed. The host country has no choice but to follow the diktat of the economic hegemon. It is a pity that it is Pakistan that has to suffer because of the Arab ignorance of South Asian history.

The writer is Dawn Readers’ Editor and author.

Published in Dawn, December 10th, 2019
https://www.dawn.com/news/1521454/indian-navy-gulf

When I started reading the article, and some points really sounded joke, I didn’t expect it be a dawn article until the last line arrived.

What a Crazy, “unasked-for” write is this.

Some points i would like to argue based on my knowledge.

Against this background, Pakistan must carefully watch the economic and geopolitical developments in Gulf sheikhdoms and be alert to overt and covert moves that may in the long run affect its security. The people of Pakistan have still not recovered from the shock received from some Arab countries’ reaction to India’s annexation of occupied Kashmir. Saudi Arabia was neutral, but the UAE felt no qualms about calling the Aug 5 annexation decree India’s ‘internal matter’.

UAE is more of an independent sort of country in terms of Relationship circles since quite recently.
Previously, most of us used to hold the view that UAE is a small puppet of KSA, and yes, it was agreeable to much extent “Bara bhai Chota Bhai”, Going by this, UAE being a part of GCC had to cut off ties with Qatar which had affected it’s economy on multiple fronts. This did piss off Abu dhabi to some extent, not wanting to but still had to under the “Big Bhai”.
Similarly, yemen conflict also dragged UAE military into play, they had to march their, suffered losses of High and low ranking officers on field, equipment.
UAE, especially Dubai, they mostly don’t “WANT” to give a sh*t to conflicts as they are busy in managing a metropolitan city, heavy investment from foreign investors, millions of businesses owned by expats, they are happy with that. Their focus is on development of infrastructure and economy. KSA on the other hand is very backwards when it comes to infrastructure or development of economy. A pakistani visits KSA, gets amazed to see the place, roads, infrastructure. Once he visits UAE post visiting KSA, KSA seems like a village infront of UAE.

So getting on point, UAE plays on it’s interests related to economy and relations to the highest bidder. Pakistan as we speak, is not much of a need for UAE however, they have interests on India being a huge country with historical interests since centuries (Arabs used to visit mumbai for trade, marry local women). KSA plays “khud to doobo gay, dosray ko bhi sath...”.

KSA maintained silence because it has far more interests in Pakistan as Pakistan is an undeniable need for them. UAE can manage itself...

UAE has the highest share of Real estate investors from Pakistan, most of the Pakistanis in UAE conduct business based on their own hard cash that they bring along. Indians on the other hand, even though higher in proportion to others in owning businesses, but they are largely those who seek bank loans from UAE, conduct business for some months/years, and once they know that the next cheque will bounce, they run off midnight otherwise their names would be in ECL due to an Automatic Criminal Case registered once a cheque bounces in UAE. They evade loans, cause losses to local banks. Secondly, indians are very cheap labor, be it an engineer, doctor, post grad or doctorate, they sell themselves very low.

On a second Point i believe is quite STUPID.
Comparing India with British is like comparing A well stable company like Apple or Microsoft with a Shaky/unstable startup.

British had resources, strategic lands and advancement, modern tech but most importantly very clever planners and scientists. The reason British had expanded throughout the globe was due to monarchy.

India on the other hand, cannot handle small enemies like us since almost a century let alone advance into GCC. They have poor command and control, planning is sh*t, brains full of cat, living in their own created mind haven, “punching 18 people with a banana peel”. No matter what might india creates in their tri services in future in terms of tech and numbers, their obsession with Pakistan would always hinder their forward thinking into advancing on foreign grounds. Even Arabs can take care of them very well.
Dawn is regarding india far more Than they really are. STUPIDS.

As for a joint-Naval cooperation in Arabian Sea, it is a dream you and i might have that would never materialize thanks to KSA-Iran conflict.

@Mangus Ortus Novem

 

[TNT]

Seriously, what kind of $h!t people are fed with? 95% of total Hindus are concentrated in just one country and didn't chose to go around and invade & kill others.

There are over 30 Christian & Islamic countries, a couple of Budhhist countries and not a single Hindu country. And Hindu majority countries didn't become secular after some sort of civil war, they voluntarily chose to be secular as their religion doesn't advocate conflict against others.

Even ideology of Sangh Parivar is called "Positive secularism" coz "Hindu Rashtra" won't be able to implement any much different rules for people. Hindus as whole unlike Muslims & Christians don't have any book governing their lives.

Its the shit RSS and BJP leaders utter in public. And plz dnt act innocent, that drama no more works. More than a billion hindus, poor innocent ppl concentrated in one small country lolz. Hindus in reality are one of most racist ppl, even have races within them. Yeah positive secularism where u kill those who eat beef and openly advocate rape. many countries dnt like to give migration to muslims buts its never a written law, india even is making such law, yet u have the audacity to BS here.
Also go and read history, Islam spread because of its unique and true message, not because of conquests.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

With exception of a few, gulf states aren't "vibrant" actually. Even those which are, have many holes.
They built themselves up on natural resources but lacked economic diversification that is needed to build their national, economic, food, technology, information and other securities in long term.

They have realized it lately and started working on themselves rather than running around for a nonexistent ummah brotherhood. Their prevalent economic proposerity will hasten their goals. While those who still haven't learnt will suffer.

May my all esteemed Pakistani friends explain me how India is a threat for Arabs.

India has some of world's largest refineries and have built strategic storages to protect their oil.

What's prevalent strongly disagrees with you.
India has very cordial relations with most of Islamic countries around the world except few fundamentalist ones (and obviously they instead try to victimize themselves).

As if rest of South Asians are any different.

As if Pakistan does.

It's pretty obvious that they will seek Indian Navy as net security provider.

They have both overtly and covertly acquired nuclear weapons and ballistic missiles.

Security risk for whom? India at best can bend Arab diplomacy for its interests.

They rather consider it one of two great Abrahamic infestations (other being Christianity) those were on mission to convert entire world.

Obviously, this grievance of past doesn't bother India's foreign policy. India even builds mosques overseas.

Arabs are much like Hindus who have their own language, culture and religion within their own geographical region of origin. No one has a problem if they have jurisdiction in their own frontiers.

Seriously, what kind of $h!t people are fed with? 95% of total Hindus are concentrated in just one country and didn't chose to go around and invade & kill others.

There are over 30 Christian & Islamic countries, a couple of Budhhist countries and not a single Hindu country. And Hindu majority countries didn't become secular after some sort of civil war, they voluntarily chose to be secular as their religion doesn't advocate conflict against others.

Even ideology of Sangh Parivar is called "Positive secularism" coz "Hindu Rashtra" won't be able to implement any much different rules for people. Hindus as whole unlike Muslims & Christians don't have any book governing their lives.

Indeed LOL
All the drama in past year we have seen India seeking an opportunity to hit and Pakistan writing letters to "World Powers" (P5 countries) to "play their role" (bachao) in a conflict between two regional powas in mega-region of South Asia that absolutely holds no value for anyone.

Seriously, do Pakistanis only write for trolling or they actually don't even bother sit and compare assets of both sides.

Within past 72 years, they have broken your country in pieces which was created to balance India, leaving them only regional power in IOR.
Whatever little relevance you had was ripped apart after economic divide started in 80s. It left India with no alternative formidable force in Oceania, East Africa, Gulf, South Asia and Southeast Asia.

Gap is still enlarging. Overall nominal growth of Pakistan stands half of India. Whenever India slows, Pak meets economic recession, whenever India meets recession, Pak meets economic depression.

Soon as Indian economy grows and graduates to upper middle income, all budgets will start to shoot up exponentially.

Within 10 years, difference between India & Pak will be enough to make Pak stop making any difference to India.

"India is a threat to Arabs" for a reason we don't know.

"India can't and won't capture Pakistan despite all military build up in long term" for a reason we don't know.

"China will continue to pamper Pakistan always" for a reason we don't know.

And
"Pakistan will give befitting reply to India in all new technologies emerging lately" for a reason we all again don't know.

The one who thinks there is any other regional power than India in and around Indian Ocean region is an idiot.

Hindus had their population stable back in 2011 and have started declining already in second half of this decade. Within next 50-100 years, they will drop below 60% and will struggle in identity poltics within their own country. They will even drop below 50% if Bangladesh, India and Pakistan reunify in meantime.

It's a pathetic fantasy and doesn't have much base within even Indian far right parties. Indian Kings didn't expand beyond Persia in west. Karkota dynasty (Kashmiri empire, if ever heard of Lalitaditya) expended in North till Caspian sea and then Chol, Chalukyas and east India dynasties in Indochina and Southeast Asia. You won't find any signs of Hindu culture beyond the region called "greater India". Whatever historical temples Hindus had are in these countries.

BJP has been going liberal center-right just like 1998 after 2019 while left has started talking about Hindu issues if you watch over Indian political circus.

Nothing is going to happen. The control and stablisation of Indian demographics was always on agenda of both parties.

Sure sure. In 72 years, Pakistan annexed and conquered nearly 40% of former indian territory to create Pakistan and there is NOTHING indian-kind can do to get that conquered territory back again........We open wide the legs of mothers and dismembered india. By the way, Bangladesh is barely 16% the size of Pakistan. Not even 1/6 our size............

On 27/02/2019, Pakistan became the 1st EVER nation in all recorded human history to shot down the fighter jet of a 7× bigger nation and the 7× bigger nation was too weak, POWERLESS AND incapable of doing anything about it.........

Sure sure. In 72 years, Pakistan annexed and conquered nearly 40% of former indian territory to create Pakistan and there is NOTHING indian-kind can do to get that conquered territory back again........We open wide the legs of mothers and dismembered india. By the way, Bangladesh is barely 16% the size of Pakistan. Not even 1/6 our size............

On 27/02/2019, Pakistan became the 1st EVER nation in all recorded human history to shot down the fighter jet of a 7× bigger nation and the 7× bigger nation was too weak, POWERLESS AND incapable of doing anything about it.........

india ain't gonna do JACK. The racial IQ of the indian race is far too low for it to EVER become a significant power. Historically, those races with such low Has have NEVER amounted to anything:

https://new-iq-test.com/iq-by-country/

 

[Indx-techs]

India on the other hand, cannot handle small enemies like us since almost a century let alone advance into GCC.

India has effectively defanged Pakistan from having it as a rival in 60s to 80s to mere a nuisance in 21st century.

And yes, India has much more firepower than GCC combined. Matter is why does India need to invade GCC. They are friends.
Problem is with a few worthless taming theocracies like Pakistan who think too high of themselves.

Even Arabs can take care of them very well.

Arabs have badly fragmented military command like India used to have before late 90s (obviously to avoid military coups) and this is the lack of coordination what made them either lose or incur high damage against a much smaller enemy like Israel.

India will bury them.

KSA maintained silence because it has far more interests in Pakistan as Pakistan is an undeniable need for them. UAE can manage itself...

KSA has nothing to do with interests in Pakistan. It's only anti-Iranian policies and ummah hangover to some extent that makes them engaging with Pakistan. Nevertheless, they too are very pro India country in most of their positions.

Comparing India with British is like comparing A well stable company like Apple or Microsoft with a Shaky/unstable startup.

Britain has been declining stably since WW2, India has been rising stably since then.
Moreover, Britain is surrounded by a progressive environment with world's most advanced economies. India meanwhile is surrounded by mess, mess and all messed neighbors and near neighbours. It's been sustained stable democracy for 70 years moreover in vicinity authoritarian and theocratic regimes around. Not to forget indirect wars it's been engaged in for decades.

Staying stable, sustaining the republic, building national security, growing fast, conducting R&D and emerging as a capable country in world affairs in such an environment even with such a complex demographic composition that would have caused civil war at any other place.

Its the shit RSS and BJP leaders utter in public.

Couple of Tom, Dick & Harry don't translate into a party's policies. Congress would long ago have been tagged as an Islamist agency otherwise.
BJP has over 180 million members, close to the national populations of Brazil, Pakistan and Bangladesh. They have a variety of mindsets. Pro-Hindu Commies, capitalists, dedicated natioanlists and corrupt things as well. The power in BJP is meanwhile centralised under top leadership (Modi & Shah types) only. Besides them (or the new bureaucrats they have appointed everywhere), anyone's statement statement amounts to nothing.

Moreover, BJP isn't the one to answer what RSS says. BJP isn't affiliated to RSS. It was rebellion by likes of Vajapyee within BJS (political wing of RSS). RSS & BJP have lot of conflicts FYI.

RSS chose to support BJP only coz no other right wing party had an all India appeal and ability to challenge Indian left in central government.

To be noted that they have been expelling motormouths since 2018. They don't depend upon lower tier leaders anymore. RSS indeed has dumped lot of scums in BJP.

And plz dnt act innocent, that drama no more works.

No one is doing drama or emotional blackmailing India. Oppression of Hindus is the argument used by Hindus to justify their attempts for revival of Dharma and not begging for any help.
By default, Hindus will continue to be morally correct over all Abrahamic religions.

Hindus in reality are one of most racist ppl, even have races within them.

As if Muslims are Christians don't have sects within them and didn't treat fellow humans like slaves all around.

Moreover, caste doesn't cover all of Hindus (Hindus as whole aren't a single religion either).

Every community has its faultlines. That doesn't justify masscares and ethnic cleansing.

Christians, Muslims and leftists have killed as much people in 20th century that wouldn't have happened in entire human history combined. And even before that, we have history of reading tortures.

Yeah positive secularism

"Positive secularism" being "voluntarily secular" as Dharma instructs Indians to maintain balance in all aspects of life. Hereby, the secularism of all Dharmic majority countries isn't a product a some sort of political activism.

where u kill those who eat beef and openly advocate rape.

Those goons face expulsions and sentences as well. The rape threat thing is pretty more common (and even committed) by Christians & Muslims. Even when comes to secularism, liberal & secular factions will be found only among Hindus. Muslims are rigidly stuck to their religious cause always and openly advocate for terrorists & rapists.

many countries dnt like to give migration to muslims

Migration to Muslims from a certain country. I don't think people from likes of UAE & Turkey face problem anywhere. Problem is with countries like Afghanistan & Pakistan whose people have a permanent reputation to be involved in crimes.

buts its never a written law, india even is making such law, yet u have the audacity to BS here.

It just reflects how much you know about the issue.

1. India doesn't have nor making any such law. Any Muslim (a human regardless of their religion) from around the world can apply for Indian citizenship and it depends upon government's stance to grant it.
2. India gives refuge and provides fundamental rights to every refugee at a level nearly same as that of its citizens (except a few which are exclusive to Indians).

Here the issue deals with providing Indian citizenship to refugees, the refugees that have been living in India for than 6 years. The law covers all non-Muslim refugees as neighboring countries can keep Muslims. They are more likely to be spies or screw up India's demographics further to mess up identity politics even more. They are just NOT mentioned there (will later be amended to provide them citizenship but stripped off from voting rights for next 25 years).

Simply here, BJP is validating the existence of Pakistan and Bangladesh to dump radical population there. Why you guys are so eager to send Pakistani & Bengali Muslims to India?

Hinduism is governed by India itself. From control of temples to personal law etc., Hinduism, Sikhism, Jainism and Budhhism in India fall under jurisdiction of Indian government directly and India can ban any of their practices (does often, bans traditions, takes away the donations, demolishes temples for land and they don't even complain) or force anything on them. They are well educated and civilized enough to be liberals on own. Christians and Muslims meanwhile still afflitate to Catholic Church and Islamic Ummah that needs to be taken out of their lives. If they continue to remain Christians and Muslims first rather than being Indian first, increment in their population is a threat to India. Muslims too have been changing lately for greater good.

Do reverse, pass a law to give refuge & citizenship to to Indian Muslims (as if any Indian Muslims are refugees). Indian muzzies will be laughing their @$$e$ off and all this bluff to project Indian republic as a fascist state before Pakistani awam will die a painful death.

I dare everyone. If India removes this year restriction, it will end up purging from and absorbing entire kafir populations of Pakistan and Bangladesh in a decade if not few years. Meanwhile no Indian Muslim will even spit on Pak or BD.

Also go and read history, Islam spread because of its unique and true message, not because of conquests.

Written history and recovered diaries of old people only reveal conflicts, demographic wars, rapes and conquests to force Islam. From Indonesia and Malaysia to Iran and Egypt. India was lucky to escape because of its population.

Rest all is propaganda to whitewash all atrocities.

It's "true message" which is again nothing more than an unjustified code just like any other Abrahamic religion isn't known to appeasing so many people around world even today.

Sure sure. In 72 years, Pakistan annexed and conquered nearly 40% of former indian territory to create Pakistan

"Pakistan" never annexed anything. British created a proxy to defang India. "Pakistanis" did nothing.

Both US & USSR supported India's freedom but welcomed partition too for same reasons.
To weaken British empire but not let other major country emerge. And that's why they intervened whenever India went to reintegrate it.

and there is NOTHING indian-kind can do to get that

India still screwed entire balance design in 1971 and later accelerated ahead by miles.

India is still doing a lot and that's why Pakistan is after P5.

We open wide the legs of mothers and dismembered india.

But yourself became pregnant giving birth to BD. You will still start to face havocs whenever India starts to fund insurgencies. India indeed can create more mess in Balochistan in few years than you did in Kashmir in 4 decades.

By the way, Bangladesh is barely 16% the size of Pakistan. Not even 1/6 our size............

Bangladesh' population is closer to Pakistan and nominal GDP bigger altogether.
If landmass is something to celebrate, I can't help your fragile brain.

On 27/02/2019, Pakistan became the 1st EVER nation in all recorded human history to shot down the fighter jet of a 7× bigger nation and the 7× bigger nation was too weak,

Viet, Afghans and other revolutionaries and around world did same against invaders.

Here, against a deep strike, you ended up engaging at LoC and even there getting F-16 chased by MiG-21.

I mean seriously, is that all, those petty events become a subject of your national celebrations? Achhi khabar kam milti hai.

POWERLESS AND incapable of doing anything about it.........

Probably why Abhinandan was back in 48 hours.
https://www.dawn.com/news/1465407

Naval strike force with DDGs was actually deployed there in Northern Arabian Sea and Imran Khan even admitted it that they were going to get hit by missiles. India had ready to fire triad nukes and was again talked down by "world powers".

the indian race

Indians aren't a race.

significant power

India has gone far beyond being a "significant" power and needs just a couple of more geopolitical attributes to qualify as a full-fledged great power.

Colonizers had access to enormous resources to keep world in their control. As WW2 made it impossible for them to sustain large rebel colonies, empires fell and countries who had large internal capacities and able to throw their weight around became dominant. Obviously large population multiplied by accessibility to better economy & technology left US & USSR as predominant forces and China & India lacked later two earlier.

Still had so large population that upper middle income lifted China to a stature equal to USA or rise of India to stature ahead of UK & France if not equal to big 3.


Hence by default, India will be left predominant force in few decades if continues to improve its economic and technological abilities. Even if US & China crack a trade deal to divide world in half and blow India's strategic dreams to suppress it, India will still become a third pole of power by end of century like China became between US & USSR. India is comfortably adding more and more capabilities and forraying into new fields every year.

Only country that would match India in population is Nigeria and they aren't building their economic and military securities like India is doing.

india ain't gonna do JACK. The racial IQ of the indian race is far too low for it to EVER become a significant power. Historically, those races with such low Has have NEVER amounted to anything:

https://new-iq-test.com/iq-by-country/

LOL this, ripped apart in this decade multiple times.

Back that decade in 2006 when this report was published, India was even behind Pakistan and Bangladesh in development indicators from where it has moved far beyond.

On per capita basis, an Indian is as innovative as an East European and nearly 20 times of that of any other South Asian (except Sri Lanka whose score is similar to India).

https://www.wipo.int/edocs/pubdocs/en/wipo_pub_941_2018.pdf

https://www.wipo.int/edocs/pubdocs/en/wipo_pub_944_2019.pdf

http://statnano.com/news/48147

http://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/ac/ido/oeip/taf/st_co_15.htm

Thereafter,

http://m.timesofindia.com/business/...onomies-up-15-places/articleshow/53741542.cms

http://www.livemint.com/Education/e...e-to-dream-Can-India-create-15-Stanfords.html

https://www.thehindubusinessline.com/opinion/innovative-india/article28627793.ece

https://www.biotecnika.org/2019/01/...erior-to-their-american-chinese-counterparts/

http://www.thehindu.com/news/nation...tries-in-ST-by-2030-Modi/article16982261.ece#

https://www.topuniversities.com/university-rankings/asian-university-rankings/2019

https://m.economictimes.com/news/ec...ian-countries-report/articleshow/66748430.cms

https://www.moneycontrol.com/news/i...o-36th-on-international-ip-index-3501421.html

https://m.economictimes.com/small-b...bal-innovation-index/articleshow/70362339.cms

http://m.hindustantimes.com/india-n...ally-report/story-TaON2IOAwgqoF8bWbYazWJ.html

http://m.economictimes.com/industry...ent-abroad-last-year/articleshow/56588503.cms

http://fortune.com/2016/10/02/india-tech-successful-startups/

At lower middle stage, India competes with East Europe & Russia. So, at upper middle it will match West Europe too.

Improved accessibility of material to learn improves the ability to gain knowledge naturally. India is sponsoring itself for PISA test to establish the IQ of its students from where it abstained earlier.
https://indianexpress.com/article/e...-pisa-test-and-why-is-it-significant-6147829/

Everyone is going to shut their mouth up if an update of same report is taken today. India has been building semiconductors, particle accelerators, clean meat, deploying robots in civil services and every other thing whatever any great power has tried during its rise.

India is the scientific powerhouse of world if exclude East Asia and Western world. And if you think that IQ has anything to do with race and Indian one will not cross a certain threshold, there is some serious issue with your IQ as well.

Opinion from a Pakistani as well.
http://www.technologyreview.pk/inside-life-pakistans-first-female-string-theorist/

Historically, those races with such low Has have NEVER amounted to anything:

No such report was ever published earlier. Coubtries ruled world at different instances of time from being incredibly rich to pathetically poor.

If IQ was to remain same, entire East Asia and not just Japan would have made west pi$$ in pants earlier.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

India has effectively defanged Pakistan from having it as a rival in 60s to 80s to mere a nuisance in 21st century.

And yes, India has much more firepower than GCC combined. Matter is why does India need to invade GCC. They are friends.
Problem is with a few worthless taming theocracies like Pakistan who think too high of themselves.

Arabs have badly fragmented military command like India used to have before late 90s (obviously to avoid military coups) and this is the lack of coordination what made them either lose or incur high damage against a much smaller enemy like Israel.

India will bury them.

KSA has nothing to do with interests in Pakistan. It's only anti-Iranian policies and ummah hangover to some extent that makes them engaging with Pakistan. Nevertheless, they too are very pro India country in most of their positions.

Britain has been declining stably since WW2, India has been rising stably since then.
Moreover, Britain is surrounded by a progressive environment with world's most advanced economies. India meanwhile is surrounded by mess, mess and all messed neighbors and near neighbours. It's been sustained stable democracy for 70 years moreover in vicinity authoritarian and theocratic regimes around. Not to forget indirect wars it's been engaged in for decades.

Staying stable, sustaining the republic, building national security, growing fast, conducting R&D and emerging as a capable country in world affairs in such an environment even with such a complex demographic composition that would have caused civil war at any other place.

Couple of Tom, Dick & Harry don't translate into a party's policies. Congress would long ago have been tagged as an Islamist agency otherwise.
BJP has over 180 million members, close to the national populations of Brazil, Pakistan and Bangladesh. They have a variety of mindsets. Pro-Hindu Commies, capitalists, dedicated natioanlists and corrupt things as well. The power in BJP is meanwhile centralised under top leadership (Modi & Shah types) only. Besides them (or the new bureaucrats they have appointed everywhere), anyone's statement statement amounts to nothing.

Moreover, BJP isn't the one to answer what RSS says. BJP isn't affiliated to RSS. It was rebellion by likes of Vajapyee within BJS (political wing of RSS). RSS & BJP have lot of conflicts FYI.

RSS chose to support BJP only coz no other right wing party had an all India appeal and ability to challenge Indian left in central government.

To be noted that they have been expelling motormouths since 2018. They don't depend upon lower tier leaders anymore. RSS indeed has dumped lot of scums in BJP.

No one is doing drama or emotional blackmailing India. Oppression of Hindus is the argument used by Hindus to justify their attempts for revival of Dharma and not begging for any help.
By default, Hindus will continue to be morally correct over all Abrahamic religions.

As if Muslims are Christians don't have sects within them and didn't treat fellow humans like slaves all around.

Moreover, caste doesn't cover all of Hindus (Hindus as whole aren't a single religion either).

Every community has its faultlines. That doesn't justify masscares and ethnic cleansing.

Christians, Muslims and leftists have killed as much people in 20th century that wouldn't have happened in entire human history combined. And even before that, we have history of reading tortures.

"Positive secularism" being "voluntarily secular" as Dharma instructs Indians to maintain balance in all aspects of life. Hereby, the secularism of all Dharmic majority countries isn't a product a some sort of political activism.

Those goons face expulsions and sentences as well. The rape threat thing is pretty more common (and even committed) by Christians & Muslims. Even when comes to secularism, liberal & secular factions will be found only among Hindus. Muslims are rigidly stuck to their religious cause always and openly advocate for terrorists & rapists.

Migration to Muslims from a certain country. I don't think people from likes of UAE & Turkey face problem anywhere. Problem is with countries like Afghanistan & Pakistan whose people have a permanent reputation to be involved in crimes.

It just reflects how much you know about the issue.

1. India doesn't have nor making any such law. Any Muslim (a human regardless of their religion) from around the world can apply for Indian citizenship and it depends upon government's stance to grant it.
2. India gives refuge and provides fundamental rights to every refugee at a level nearly same as that of its citizens (except a few which are exclusive to Indians).

Here the issue deals with providing Indian citizenship to refugees, the refugees that have been living in India for than 6 years. The law covers all non-Muslim refugees as neighboring countries can keep Muslims. They are more likely to be spies or screw up India's demographics further to mess up identity politics even more. They are just NOT mentioned there (will later be amended to provide them citizenship but stripped off from voting rights for next 25 years).

Simply here, BJP is validating the existence of Pakistan and Bangladesh to dump radical population there. Why you guys are so eager to send Pakistani & Bengali Muslims to India?

Hinduism is governed by India itself. From control of temples to personal law etc., Hinduism, Sikhism, Jainism and Budhhism in India fall under jurisdiction of Indian government directly and India can ban any of their practices (does often, bans traditions, takes away the donations, demolishes temples for land and they don't even complain) or force anything on them. They are well educated and civilized enough to be liberals on own. Christians and Muslims meanwhile still afflitate to Catholic Church and Islamic Ummah that needs to be taken out of their lives. If they continue to remain Christians and Muslims first rather than being Indian first, increment in their population is a threat to India. Muslims too have been changing lately for greater good.

Do reverse, pass a law to give refuge & citizenship to to Indian Muslims (as if any Indian Muslims are refugees). Indian muzzies will be laughing their @$$e$ off and all this bluff to project Indian republic as a fascist state before Pakistani awam will die a painful death.

I dare everyone. If India removes this year restriction, it will end up purging from and absorbing entire kafir populations of Pakistan and Bangladesh in a decade if not few years. Meanwhile no Indian Muslim will even spit on Pak or BD.

Written history and recovered diaries of old people only reveal conflicts, demographic wars, rapes and conquests to force Islam. From Indonesia and Malaysia to Iran and Egypt. India was lucky to escape because of its population.

Rest all is propaganda to whitewash all atrocities.

It's "true message" which is again nothing more than an unjustified code just like any other Abrahamic religion isn't known to appeasing so many people around world even today.

"Pakistan" never annexed anything. British created a proxy to defang India. "Pakistanis" did nothing.

Both US & USSR supported India's freedom but welcomed partition too for same reasons.
To weaken British empire but not let other major country emerge. And that's why they intervened whenever India went to reintegrate it.

India still screwed entire balance design in 1971 and later accelerated ahead by miles.

India is still doing a lot and that's why Pakistan is after P5.

But yourself became pregnant giving birth to BD. You will still start to face havocs whenever India starts to fund insurgencies. India indeed can create more mess in Balochistan in few years than you did in Kashmir in 4 decades.

Bangladesh' population is closer to Pakistan and nominal GDP bigger altogether.
If landmass is something to celebrate, I can't help your fragile brain.

Viet, Afghans and other revolutionaries and around world did same against invaders.

Here, against a deep strike, you ended up engaging at LoC and even there getting F-16 chased by MiG-21.

I mean seriously, is that all, those petty events become a subject of your national celebrations? Achhi khabar kam milti hai.

Probably why Abhinandan was back in 48 hours.
https://www.dawn.com/news/1465407

Naval strike force with DDGs was actually deployed there in Northern Arabian Sea and Imran Khan even admitted it that they were going to get hit by missiles. India had ready to fire triad nukes and was again talked down by "world powers".

Indians aren't a race.

India has gone far beyond being a "significant" power and needs just a couple of more geopolitical attributes to qualify as a full-fledged great power.

Colonizers had access to enormous resources to keep world in their control. As WW2 made it impossible for them to sustain large rebel colonies, empires fell and countries who had large internal capacities and able to throw their weight around became dominant. Obviously large population multiplied by accessibility to better economy & technology left US & USSR as predominant forces and China & India lacked later two earlier.

Still had so large population that upper middle income lifted China to a stature equal to USA or rise of India to stature ahead of UK & France if not equal to big 3.


Hence by default, India will be left predominant force in few decades if continues to improve its economic and technological abilities. Even if US & China crack a trade deal to divide world in half and blow India's strategic dreams to suppress it, India will still become a third pole of power by end of century like China became between US & USSR. India is comfortably adding more and more capabilities and forraying into new fields every year.

Only country that would match India in population is Nigeria and they aren't building their economic and military securities like India is doing.

LOL this, ripped apart in this decade multiple times.

Back that decade in 2006 when this report was published, India was even behind Pakistan and Bangladesh in development indicators from where it has moved far beyond.

On per capita basis, an Indian is as innovative as an East European and nearly 20 times of that of any other South Asian (except Sri Lanka whose score is similar to India).

https://www.wipo.int/edocs/pubdocs/en/wipo_pub_941_2018.pdf

https://www.wipo.int/edocs/pubdocs/en/wipo_pub_944_2019.pdf

http://statnano.com/news/48147

http://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/ac/ido/oeip/taf/st_co_15.htm

Thereafter,

http://m.timesofindia.com/business/...onomies-up-15-places/articleshow/53741542.cms

http://www.livemint.com/Education/e...e-to-dream-Can-India-create-15-Stanfords.html

https://www.thehindubusinessline.com/opinion/innovative-india/article28627793.ece

https://www.biotecnika.org/2019/01/...erior-to-their-american-chinese-counterparts/

http://www.thehindu.com/news/nation...tries-in-ST-by-2030-Modi/article16982261.ece#

https://www.topuniversities.com/university-rankings/asian-university-rankings/2019

https://m.economictimes.com/news/ec...ian-countries-report/articleshow/66748430.cms

https://www.moneycontrol.com/news/i...o-36th-on-international-ip-index-3501421.html

https://m.economictimes.com/small-b...bal-innovation-index/articleshow/70362339.cms

http://m.hindustantimes.com/india-n...ally-report/story-TaON2IOAwgqoF8bWbYazWJ.html

http://m.economictimes.com/industry...ent-abroad-last-year/articleshow/56588503.cms

http://fortune.com/2016/10/02/india-tech-successful-startups/

At lower middle stage, India competes with East Europe & Russia. So, at upper middle it will match West Europe too.

Improved accessibility of material to learn improves the ability to gain knowledge naturally. India is sponsoring itself for PISA test to establish the IQ of its students from where it abstained earlier.
https://indianexpress.com/article/e...-pisa-test-and-why-is-it-significant-6147829/

Everyone is going to shut their mouth up if an update of same report is taken today. India has been building semiconductors, particle accelerators, clean meat, deploying robots in civil services and every other thing whatever any great power has tried during its rise.

India is the scientific powerhouse of world if exclude East Asia and Western world. And if you think that IQ has anything to do with race and Indian one will not cross a certain threshold, there is some serious issue with your IQ as well.

Opinion from a Pakistani as well.
http://www.technologyreview.pk/inside-life-pakistans-first-female-string-theorist/


No such report was ever published earlier. Coubtries ruled world at different instances of time from being incredibly rich to pathetically poor.

If IQ was to remain same, entire East Asia and not just Japan would have made west pi$$ in pants earlier.

.............Are you mentally retarded or what???????..........if you exclude Europe, the White race and East Asia, there is NO Science and technology.............. low racial IQ of 84 india is a 'Scientific powerhouse"................Using the Science, Technology, expertise and equipment of the White race like india does, does NOT make you a "Scientific Powerhouse".................. if that was the case then even a lot of African and South American nations are way ahead of india.....EVER wondered why 1.4 billion indians HAVE NEVER EVER indigenously invented ANY advanced sciences and technologies like the White and Far Eastern races have done?.......think about it?........................what has india EVER invented that the rest of the world needs or wants?.......


So you also believe that india has NEVER EVER been conquered or ruled by Muslims??...................does it make you feel better to claim that the British created Pakistan and that there is NO connection between Muslim rule of india and the eventual creation of Pakistan???................of course the British created Pakistan, because the British are Pakistanis aren't they?....................so when are you going to get that former conquered indian territory back again?........

 

[StormBreaker]

.............Are you mentally retarded or what???????..........if you exclude Europe, the White race and East Asia, there is NO Science and technology.............. low racial IQ of 84 india is a 'Scientific powerhouse"................Using the Science, Technology, expertise and equipment of the White race like india does, does NOT make you a "Scientific Powerhouse".................. if that was the case then even a lot of African and South American nations are way ahead of india.....EVER wondered why 1.4 billion indians HAVE NEVER EVER indigenously invented ANY advanced sciences and technologies like the White and Far Eastern races have done?.......think about it?........................what has india EVER invented that the rest of the world needs or wants?.......


So you also believe that india has NEVER EVER been conquered or ruled by Muslims??...................does it make you feel better to claim that the British created Pakistan and that there is NO connection between Muslim rule of india and the eventual creation of Pakistan???................of course the British created Pakistan, because the British are Pakistanis aren't they?....................so when are you going to get that former conquered indian territory back again?........

Buddy, that guy put a long time writing that BS (not BS as in rafale or Dhanoa). I just ignored it after reading the first sentence. Ph.D in DELUSIONAL SCIENCES

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Buddy, that guy put a long time writing that BS (not BS as in rafale or Dhanoa). I just ignored it after reading the first sentence. Ph.D in DELUSIONAL SCIENCES

He claimed that india is a scientific powerhouse yet failed to explain why 1.4 billion indians HAVE NEVER EVER invented ANY advanced sciences and technologies like the White and Far Eastern races have done.......

 

[StormBreaker]

He claimed that india is a scientific powerhouse yet failed to explain why 1.4 billion indians HAVE NEVER EVER invented ANY advanced sciences and technologies like the White and Far Eastern races have done.......

They did make a samosa fly...

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

They did make a samosa fly...

indians are like, we are advanced because we have mobile phones, therefore we must have invented them. Even Somalians in Somalia have mobile phones. Doesn't mean to say that Somalians invented them............

They did make a samosa fly...

Credit where it's due though. indians have invented the world's biggest open sewer and the most hideously ugly and physically repulsive creatures on planet earth.

 

[Indx-techs]

if you exclude Europe, the White race and East Asia, there is NO Science and technology........

Means you didn't even bother to open the URLs.
West accounts for some 50% discoveries and thereafter East Asians, Indian & Iranians have their fair shares.

Wheels are of

• Inventions
• Innovation (improvement to any invention)
• Re-invention (Reinventing for own as no other country would leak that tech).

West still controls most of inventions while East Asians come up with re-inventions and innovations. Indians with re-inventions mostly and innovations lately.

Countries with largest R&D budgets account for most of science & tech while those with best implementation of education system with highest general IQs.

Beyond these countries, there is no science & technology in world. India dwarfs entire middle east alone.

low racial IQ of 84 india is a 'Scientific powerhouse"

Indeed, believing that IQ is something that is "racial" (however you can't even define Indian race and clueless about what Pakistani "race" as a whole) somehow helps you to feel better about Pakistan as there is at least no logic left in world to support your incompetent country who barely contributes a safety pin to S&T in a decade and doesn't have any R&D, industrial capacity or aspirations to lead.

Guess on basis of what? A single damned survey test upon students at that particular year, has become a paramount for you determine racial superiority. It however projects you too "inferior" to West & far East but somehow you are okay with it.
It's simply desperation to remain in denial and soothe yourself for not being anywhere.

Be afraid of its revision too if you believe in racial superiority. Because a retest is going bring a complete turnover of old positions.

As I don't think he's gonna repeat this test after incompetency, I'd refer to PISA test.

Using the Science, Technology, expertise and equipment of the White race like india does, does NOT make you a "Scientific Powerhouse"

The lists and ranks too account for inventing, manufacturing or innovating only. Innovation index doesn't cover things "used".

if that was the case then even a lot of African and South American nations are way ahead of india

See their combined IPRs every year and strategic techs they make, simply nowhere near India. Nevertheless, admit that Pak is even worse than them.

EVER wondered why 1.4 billion indians HAVE NEVER EVER indigenously invented ANY advanced sciences and technologies like the White and Far Eastern races have done?

There is a full list. However for modern era, its only west for invention. East Asia for innovation and India for re-inventions.

what has india EVER invented that the rest of the world needs or wants?.......

Fibonacci numbers, digit numeral system, binary codes, trigonometry (latinized version was reverse engineered by Edmund Gunter), wireless communication, USB drives and so forth.

Too is leader of world in thorium based nuclear reactor (results are yet to be realized) and is in race with 5 (real) nuclear powers to make world's first fusion reactors too.

For every rant you throw to tease Indians that don't dare well against West or far East, Pakistan simply isn't even in picture anywhere in such things.

So you also believe that india has NEVER EVER been conquered or ruled by Muslims??

No, I said Pakistanis never "conquerred" India to create Pakistan. They couldn't do sh!t against Indian and Hindu nationalists without British support.

Seems that Pakistanis (converted rape products) actually believe they are descendants of invaders.

does it make you feel better to claim that the British created Pakistan and that there is NO connection between Muslim rule of india and the eventual creation of Pakistan???

Connection is between India's Muslim demographics, Muslims' commitment to ummah before nation, identity crisis and wish to create an Islamic state that was supported by Brits led to creation of Pakistan (which collapsed in 1971).

It's not Islamic rule but fake superiority complex of some Indian Muslims that led to creation of Pakistan.

Marathas and other Hindu empires had started to wipe out mughals but Brits arrived.

of course the British created Pakistan, because the British are Pakistanis aren't they?

Brits are former colonizers (killed much more people than nazis) who aren't having very good time these days. They tried to alter India to form they wanted.

so when are you going to get that former conquered indian territory back again?........

Sooner than you even think. I'll live well past 2047, I hope you too. Pakistan will either be under an Indian confederation or will be a vassal state of India or some other country. Keep the screenshot.

Far Eastern races have

If you are talking about entirely new inventions of modern era, no not even far east has done anything much yet.

They did make a samosa fly...

Their launch systems can throw you & your dear family with a thrust enough to push you outta solar system.

Credit where it's due though. indians have invented the world's biggest open sewer and the most hideously ugly and physically repulsive creatures on planet earth.

Stats disagree brutally saying that Pakistani needs more toilets than India.

And even if we say that India's progress is over played, Pakistan doesn't have any real data with full economic census for past 40 years and relies on surveys entirely.

 

[StormBreaker]

Their launch systems can throw you & your dear family with a thrust enough to push you outta solar system.

Straight outta science fiction !!!!!

Claps for you son !!!

BTW, any such tech your mighty empire possess, let me know, any planet is better than a planet having scums like you dwelling and farting, polluting the global atmosphere.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Means you didn't even bother to open the URLs.
West accounts for some 50% discoveries and thereafter East Asians, Indian & Iranians have their fair shares.

Wheels are of

• Inventions
• Innovation (improvement to any invention)
• Re-invention (Reinventing for own as no other country would leak that tech).

West still controls most of inventions while East Asians come up with re-inventions and innovations. Indians with re-inventions mostly and innovations lately.

Countries with largest R&D budgets account for most of science & tech while those with best implementation of education system with highest general IQs.

Beyond these countries, there is no science & technology in world. India dwarfs entire middle east alone.

Indeed, believing that IQ is something that is "racial" (however you can't even define Indian race and clueless about what Pakistani "race" as a whole) somehow helps you to feel better about Pakistan as there is at least no logic left in world to support your incompetent country who barely contributes a safety pin to S&T in a decade and doesn't have any R&D, industrial capacity or aspirations to lead.

Guess on basis of what? A single damned survey test upon students at that particular year, has become a paramount for you determine racial superiority. It however projects you too "inferior" to West & far East but somehow you are okay with it.
It's simply desperation to remain in denial and soothe yourself for not being anywhere.

Be afraid of its revision too if you believe in racial superiority. Because a retest is going bring a complete turnover of old positions.

As I don't think he's gonna repeat this test after incompetency, I'd refer to PISA test.

The lists and ranks too account for inventing, manufacturing or innovating only. Innovation index doesn't cover things "used".

See their combined IPRs every year and strategic techs they make, simply nowhere near India. Nevertheless, admit that Pak is even worse than them.

There is a full list. However for modern era, its only west for invention. East Asia for innovation and India for re-inventions.

Fibonacci numbers, digit numeral system, binary codes, trigonometry (latinized version was reverse engineered by Edmund Gunter), wireless communication, USB drives and so forth.

Too is leader of world in thorium based nuclear reactor (results are yet to be realized) and is in race with 5 (real) nuclear powers to make world's first fusion reactors too.

For every rant you throw to tease Indians that don't dare well against West or far East, Pakistan simply isn't even in picture anywhere in such things.

No, I said Pakistanis never "conquerred" India to create Pakistan. They couldn't do sh!t against Indian and Hindu nationalists without British support.

Seems that Pakistanis (converted rape products) actually believe they are descendants of invaders.

Connection is between India's Muslim demographics, Muslims' commitment to ummah before nation, identity crisis and wish to create an Islamic state that was supported by Brits led to creation of Pakistan (which collapsed in 1971).

It's not Islamic rule but fake superiority complex of some Indian Muslims that led to creation of Pakistan.

Marathas and other Hindu empires had started to wipe out mughals but Brits arrived.

Brits are former colonizers (killed much more people than nazis) who aren't having very good time these days. They tried to alter India to form they wanted.

Sooner than you even think. I'll live well past 2047, I hope you too. Pakistan will either be under an Indian confederation or will be a vassal state of India or some other country. Keep the screenshot.

If you are talking about entirely new inventions of modern era, no not even far east has done anything much yet.

Their launch systems can throw you & your dear family with a thrust enough to push you outta solar system.

Stats disagree brutally saying that Pakistani needs more toilets than India.

And even if we say that India's progress is over played, Pakistan doesn't have any real data with full economic census for past 40 years and relies on surveys entirely.

WTF!!!!!!!!!....................WHERE are you getting your figures from?????.........

Tell me, WHICH race invented the aeroplane, car, train, tank, space travel, internet, computers, nuclear technology, etc?....................now, what have the indians EVER invented?................remember that there are more indians than White people on this planet and according to you, india is a "Scientific powerhouse".........



So, after annexing nearly 40% of indian territory to create Pakistan, the WHOLE of hindu-india could do diddly squat against us.................the British are not here anymore. So come and try to get that former indian territory back now..........if you DARE........



PS india is at the same level if not even behind African countries in terms of scientific and technological progress. If they weren't, then 1.4 billion indians would not be relying on the White European races for science and technology but would rather be inventing it themselves. But just like the Africans, the indian race DOES RELY on the White race for science and technology.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Means you didn't even bother to open the URLs.
West accounts for some 50% discoveries and thereafter East Asians, Indian & Iranians have their fair shares.

Wheels are of

• Inventions
• Innovation (improvement to any invention)
• Re-invention (Reinventing for own as no other country would leak that tech).

West still controls most of inventions while East Asians come up with re-inventions and innovations. Indians with re-inventions mostly and innovations lately.

Countries with largest R&D budgets account for most of science & tech while those with best implementation of education system with highest general IQs.

Beyond these countries, there is no science & technology in world. India dwarfs entire middle east alone.

Indeed, believing that IQ is something that is "racial" (however you can't even define Indian race and clueless about what Pakistani "race" as a whole) somehow helps you to feel better about Pakistan as there is at least no logic left in world to support your incompetent country who barely contributes a safety pin to S&T in a decade and doesn't have any R&D, industrial capacity or aspirations to lead.

Guess on basis of what? A single damned survey test upon students at that particular year, has become a paramount for you determine racial superiority. It however projects you too "inferior" to West & far East but somehow you are okay with it.
It's simply desperation to remain in denial and soothe yourself for not being anywhere.

Be afraid of its revision too if you believe in racial superiority. Because a retest is going bring a complete turnover of old positions.

As I don't think he's gonna repeat this test after incompetency, I'd refer to PISA test.

The lists and ranks too account for inventing, manufacturing or innovating only. Innovation index doesn't cover things "used".

See their combined IPRs every year and strategic techs they make, simply nowhere near India. Nevertheless, admit that Pak is even worse than them.

There is a full list. However for modern era, its only west for invention. East Asia for innovation and India for re-inventions.

Fibonacci numbers, digit numeral system, binary codes, trigonometry (latinized version was reverse engineered by Edmund Gunter), wireless communication, USB drives and so forth.

Too is leader of world in thorium based nuclear reactor (results are yet to be realized) and is in race with 5 (real) nuclear powers to make world's first fusion reactors too.

For every rant you throw to tease Indians that don't dare well against West or far East, Pakistan simply isn't even in picture anywhere in such things.

No, I said Pakistanis never "conquerred" India to create Pakistan. They couldn't do sh!t against Indian and Hindu nationalists without British support.

Seems that Pakistanis (converted rape products) actually believe they are descendants of invaders.

Connection is between India's Muslim demographics, Muslims' commitment to ummah before nation, identity crisis and wish to create an Islamic state that was supported by Brits led to creation of Pakistan (which collapsed in 1971).

It's not Islamic rule but fake superiority complex of some Indian Muslims that led to creation of Pakistan.

Marathas and other Hindu empires had started to wipe out mughals but Brits arrived.

Brits are former colonizers (killed much more people than nazis) who aren't having very good time these days. They tried to alter India to form they wanted.

Sooner than you even think. I'll live well past 2047, I hope you too. Pakistan will either be under an Indian confederation or will be a vassal state of India or some other country. Keep the screenshot.

If you are talking about entirely new inventions of modern era, no not even far east has done anything much yet.

Their launch systems can throw you & your dear family with a thrust enough to push you outta solar system.

Stats disagree brutally saying that Pakistani needs more toilets than India.

And even if we say that India's progress is over played, Pakistan doesn't have any real data with full economic census for past 40 years and relies on surveys entirely.

@The Eagle @waz @Horus @Dubious

Please read the above post in full and the anti-Pakistani racism. I don't want to respond as I will get banned, but lately there has been a lot of ugly little weiner men getting away with anti-Pakistani/Muslim insults on PDF.

PS He is also claiming that india is a scientific superpower......go figure......

 

[Indx-techs]

Yawn!
Reason of three months ban: get outta here! LOL
Seems that people here aren't very good in dealing with posts which don't have ad hominem content. Having hard times

Please read the above post in full and the anti-Pakistani racism.

Where was I racist?
For Pakistan specific, I don't even consider Pakistanis a "race". Haven't I made it clear earlier?

Straight outta science fiction !!!!!

It's well within science. Even medium launch systems of 70s have ability to launch a good mass out of solar system (ability to launch and not bring back, LOL).
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voyager_1

And existing Indian systems have better thrust than Titan.
Rockets never travel beyond MEO or HEO (sometimes TLI however) and just inject spacecrafts in parking orbits.

It works like you have to choose correct trajectory and relative position against sun (per date). And may attach little thrusters to spacecraft for directional propulsion. That's how Chandrayaan-2 was supposed to work.

As for IQ, I found something more.
https://viewoniq.org/

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flynn_effect

So, IQ basically depends upon environment and nourishment. East Asians were as stupid as rest of non-western people until 80s. Directly proportional to economic growth, IQs of countries grow eventually.

In case of India, economic reforms and institutions were earlier too. Economic growth and SciTech came in 90s after IQs shooted up in early 80s. A new study will put it definitely best in third world if not at par second.

 

[masterchief_mirza]

Question is when will stupid arabs wake up to the fact that India isn't their friend? They have intense inbuilt hatred of muslims. Arab countries are literally hijras in front of India military speaking. With no navy to speak off. Lets forget about nuclear weapons for a moment.

With millions of Indians working in Gulf countries who are huge security risk.

Excellent article. But your follow up question assumes the gulf states have any interest whatsoever in "waking up".

The other problem we need to comprehend is that the leadership core of Hindutva Indians are only selectively "hateful" towards Muslims - we need to be smarter than devolving the issue into absolutism. Even the Nazi leaders gladly worked with Jews who assisted their goals.

I suggest Pakistanis accept the fact that Arabs are sold down the river and stop crying over it. To suggest Hindutva leadership (note I am not talking about the zombified rank and file lesser hordes who are truly brainwashed) has designs against ALL Muslims is erroneous and such a belief will cause confusion and even mistakes in our efforts against Hindutva.

Hindutva is a type of Nazism, which doesn't actually equate to hatred of every single member of a community - it only equates to hatred of those members of that community who resist the social and demographic engineering project that is instituted by the protagonist.