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IT is unfair to draw lessons from the fate of a bankrupt Egypt in the 19th century and relate it to today’s economically vibrant Gulf states. Nevertheless one can detect a beep on the radar. In 1875, Britain purchased Khedive Ismail’s shares of the Suez Canal Company to become the majority shareholder — it already had its own shares.

The khedive’s reckless modernisation drive had made Egypt go broke. The loans he had secured from European powers, especially Britain and France, enabled the two, especially the former, to interfere in Egypt’s internal matters and tighten their economic stranglehold. The number of Europeans working in Egypt had gone up phenomenally. They were ubiquitous and were resented by Egyptians, especially army officers.

In 1880, there was a row between an Egyptian donkey cart boy and a European, and this led to a riot which killed a large number of people, including Europeans. While France was reluctant to act for reasons which do not concern us here, Britain used the opportunity to occupy Egypt. Thus, the Arab world’s most important country was to remain under British control till 1952 when Gamal Abdel Nasser and Mohammad Neguib overthrew the Albanian dynasty. The reader need not be told the moral of the story: the economic control of a country by a foreign power invariably leads to the former’s enslavement.

Against this background, Pakistan must carefully watch the economic and geopolitical developments in Gulf sheikhdoms and be alert to overt and covert moves that may in the long run affect its security. The people of Pakistan have still not recovered from the shock received from some Arab countries’ reaction to India’s annexation of occupied Kashmir. Saudi Arabia was neutral, but the UAE felt no qualms about calling the Aug 5 annexation decree India’s ‘internal matter’.

It is doubtful if Gulf nations are aware of India’s naval ambitions.

Various interpretations have since then been given about why Khalifa bin Zayed al Nahyan’s government behaved the way it did. One explanation is obvious: trade between the Emirates and India is estimated at $100bn. To this must be added the crucial role Indian expatriates have played and will continue to do so in building the UAE economy and the extraordinary control they have come to exercise over business and finance in the sheikhdom.

The number of Indian nationals — nearly two million — constitutes 27pc of the Emirates’ population of 9.4m. Taken together, all Gulf states have an Indian population of 9m, and let’s be clear that in a given geopolitical turmoil this population could be an extraordinary asset to India to help New Delhi advance its interests.

K.M. Panikkar’s India and the Indian Ocean is a much-quoted book, for it gives a clear indication of what Indian strategists think of their country’s role in relation to Asia and the Middle East. The gist of the thesis is that India must step into British shoes and play the role Britain did in the geographical mass between Aden and Singapore. He argued that the Indian Ocean must “truly remain Indian”.

No wonder the ‘Persian Gulf’ finds repeated mention in the post-Panikkar era. Indian Prime Minister Atal Behari Vajpayee told a military conference in 2003 that India’s “strategic frontiers” had grown beyond South Asia and that India’s “security environment ranges from the Persian Gulf to Straits of Malacca”. Similarly, former Indian navy chief Arun Prakash said India’s “strategic relevance” ranges “from the Persian Gulf to the Strait of Malacca.”

It is doubtful if the Gulf nations are aware of India’s naval ambitions. For reasons of history and geography Arab nations (and Iran) look west and seldom bother about developments in the east. In their worldview, the Pakistan-India relationship is a minor issue — a nuisance — and does not deserve the attention we think it must. Twice this year, the UAE has stunned us. In February, it invited an Indian foreign minister to a conference of Islamic foreign ministers, and it termed the Aug 5 villainy India’s internal matter.

Read: Islamabad apprises OIC of reservation over invite to India

The Asian Arab world has virtually no navy, even though 80pc of oil shipping passes through the Gulf of Hormuz. Pakistan has a vital interest in this crucial sea lane, and it is exactly for this reason that Gwadar port is an eyesore for many governments hostile to Pakistan.

The situation calls for Pakistan’s greater collaboration with Gulf navies in a manner that pre-empts any attempt by non-Gulf powers to penetrate what undoubtedly is Pakistan’s underbelly. Let Islamabad keep its eyes and ears open so as not get caught again by surprise. Bases are not begged for; bases are extorted or imposed. The host country has no choice but to follow the diktat of the economic hegemon. It is a pity that it is Pakistan that has to suffer because of the Arab ignorance of South Asian history.

The writer is Dawn Readers’ Editor and author.

Published in Dawn, December 10th, 2019
https://www.dawn.com/news/1521454/indian-navy-gulf
 
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Question is when will stupid arabs wake up to the fact that India isn't their friend? They have intense inbuilt hatred of muslims. Arab countries are literally hijras in front of India military speaking. With no navy to speak off. Lets forget about nuclear weapons for a moment.

With millions of Indians working in Gulf countries who are huge security risk.
 
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Another fun fact is that indian hindu right wingers consider Islam in india a remnant of arabs. They consider arabs the real evil that spread Islam to the indian subcontinent. So arabs should know what they are dealing with, some RSS extremists even claim hindus will take over arab countries and give example of UAE where huge mandirs are being built and claim of country being controlled by hindus.
 
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Question is when will stupid arabs wake up to the fact that India isn't their friend? They have intense inbuilt hatred of muslims. Arab countries are literally hijras in front of India military speaking. With no navy to speak off. Lets forget about nuclear weapons for a moment.

With millions of Indians working in Gulf countries who are huge security risk.

They are not stupid. The Arabs are fully aware and aiding India for their personal benefit.
 
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IT is unfair to draw lessons from the fate of a bankrupt Egypt in the 19th century and relate it to today’s economically vibrant Gulf states. Nevertheless one can detect a beep on the radar. In 1875, Britain purchased Khedive Ismail’s shares of the Suez Canal Company to become the majority shareholder — it already had its own shares.

The khedive’s reckless modernisation drive had made Egypt go broke. The loans he had secured from European powers, especially Britain and France, enabled the two, especially the former, to interfere in Egypt’s internal matters and tighten their economic stranglehold. The number of Europeans working in Egypt had gone up phenomenally. They were ubiquitous and were resented by Egyptians, especially army officers.

In 1880, there was a row between an Egyptian donkey cart boy and a European, and this led to a riot which killed a large number of people, including Europeans. While France was reluctant to act for reasons which do not concern us here, Britain used the opportunity to occupy Egypt. Thus, the Arab world’s most important country was to remain under British control till 1952 when Gamal Abdel Nasser and Mohammad Neguib overthrew the Albanian dynasty. The reader need not be told the moral of the story: the economic control of a country by a foreign power invariably leads to the former’s enslavement.

Against this background, Pakistan must carefully watch the economic and geopolitical developments in Gulf sheikhdoms and be alert to overt and covert moves that may in the long run affect its security. The people of Pakistan have still not recovered from the shock received from some Arab countries’ reaction to India’s annexation of occupied Kashmir. Saudi Arabia was neutral, but the UAE felt no qualms about calling the Aug 5 annexation decree India’s ‘internal matter’.

It is doubtful if Gulf nations are aware of India’s naval ambitions.

Various interpretations have since then been given about why Khalifa bin Zayed al Nahyan’s government behaved the way it did. One explanation is obvious: trade between the Emirates and India is estimated at $100bn. To this must be added the crucial role Indian expatriates have played and will continue to do so in building the UAE economy and the extraordinary control they have come to exercise over business and finance in the sheikhdom.

The number of Indian nationals — nearly two million — constitutes 27pc of the Emirates’ population of 9.4m. Taken together, all Gulf states have an Indian population of 9m, and let’s be clear that in a given geopolitical turmoil this population could be an extraordinary asset to India to help New Delhi advance its interests.

K.M. Panikkar’s India and the Indian Ocean is a much-quoted book, for it gives a clear indication of what Indian strategists think of their country’s role in relation to Asia and the Middle East. The gist of the thesis is that India must step into British shoes and play the role Britain did in the geographical mass between Aden and Singapore. He argued that the Indian Ocean must “truly remain Indian”.

No wonder the ‘Persian Gulf’ finds repeated mention in the post-Panikkar era. Indian Prime Minister Atal Behari Vajpayee told a military conference in 2003 that India’s “strategic frontiers” had grown beyond South Asia and that India’s “security environment ranges from the Persian Gulf to Straits of Malacca”. Similarly, former Indian navy chief Arun Prakash said India’s “strategic relevance” ranges “from the Persian Gulf to the Strait of Malacca.”

It is doubtful if the Gulf nations are aware of India’s naval ambitions. For reasons of history and geography Arab nations (and Iran) look west and seldom bother about developments in the east. In their worldview, the Pakistan-India relationship is a minor issue — a nuisance — and does not deserve the attention we think it must. Twice this year, the UAE has stunned us. In February, it invited an Indian foreign minister to a conference of Islamic foreign ministers, and it termed the Aug 5 villainy India’s internal matter.

Read: Islamabad apprises OIC of reservation over invite to India

The Asian Arab world has virtually no navy, even though 80pc of oil shipping passes through the Gulf of Hormuz. Pakistan has a vital interest in this crucial sea lane, and it is exactly for this reason that Gwadar port is an eyesore for many governments hostile to Pakistan.

The situation calls for Pakistan’s greater collaboration with Gulf navies in a manner that pre-empts any attempt by non-Gulf powers to penetrate what undoubtedly is Pakistan’s underbelly. Let Islamabad keep its eyes and ears open so as not get caught again by surprise. Bases are not begged for; bases are extorted or imposed. The host country has no choice but to follow the diktat of the economic hegemon. It is a pity that it is Pakistan that has to suffer because of the Arab ignorance of South Asian history.

The writer is Dawn Readers’ Editor and author.

Published in Dawn, December 10th, 2019
https://www.dawn.com/news/1521454/indian-navy-gulf
Relying on the arabs is like relying on a blind friend to come help you in a fight. Pakistan isnt stupid and it sees what's happening thus the enlargement and bolstering of PN. That is why I firmly believe that PN isnt stoping at what we see right now. That many more things are to play out becuse Pakistan needs a blue water navy, especially since gwadar.

Question is when will stupid arabs wake up to the fact that India isn't their friend? They have intense inbuilt hatred of muslims. Arab countries are literally hijras in front of India military speaking. With no navy to speak off. Lets forget about nuclear weapons for a moment.

With millions of Indians working in Gulf countries who are huge security risk.
They wont so Pakistan has do to what it can to protect our people even if that includes war with a certain arab state, to the south of Gwadar. Oman....
 
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Relying on the arabs is like relying on a blind friend to come help you in a fight. Pakistan isnt stupid and it sees what's happening thus the enlargement and bolstering of PN. That is why I firmly believe that PN isnt stoping at what we see right now. That many more things are to play out becuse Pakistan needs a blue water navy, especially since gwadar.
Arkadash-im!! Please don't generalize the Arab folks!!! I am pretty sure many of them know the reality and trying to find a way out. Otherwise, Katar, and now Libya wouldn't have asked for the Turkish help. And, the Free Syrian Army wouldn't have trained, fought and sacrificed under the Turkish command....
 
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IT is unfair to draw lessons from the fate of a bankrupt Egypt in the 19th century and relate it to today’s economically vibrant Gulf states. Nevertheless one can detect a beep on the radar. In 1875, Britain purchased Khedive Ismail’s shares of the Suez Canal Company to become the majority shareholder — it already had its own shares.

The khedive’s reckless modernisation drive had made Egypt go broke. The loans he had secured from European powers, especially Britain and France, enabled the two, especially the former, to interfere in Egypt’s internal matters and tighten their economic stranglehold. The number of Europeans working in Egypt had gone up phenomenally. They were ubiquitous and were resented by Egyptians, especially army officers.

In 1880, there was a row between an Egyptian donkey cart boy and a European, and this led to a riot which killed a large number of people, including Europeans. While France was reluctant to act for reasons which do not concern us here, Britain used the opportunity to occupy Egypt. Thus, the Arab world’s most important country was to remain under British control till 1952 when Gamal Abdel Nasser and Mohammad Neguib overthrew the Albanian dynasty. The reader need not be told the moral of the story: the economic control of a country by a foreign power invariably leads to the former’s enslavement.

Against this background, Pakistan must carefully watch the economic and geopolitical developments in Gulf sheikhdoms and be alert to overt and covert moves that may in the long run affect its security. The people of Pakistan have still not recovered from the shock received from some Arab countries’ reaction to India’s annexation of occupied Kashmir. Saudi Arabia was neutral, but the UAE felt no qualms about calling the Aug 5 annexation decree India’s ‘internal matter’.

It is doubtful if Gulf nations are aware of India’s naval ambitions.

Various interpretations have since then been given about why Khalifa bin Zayed al Nahyan’s government behaved the way it did. One explanation is obvious: trade between the Emirates and India is estimated at $100bn. To this must be added the crucial role Indian expatriates have played and will continue to do so in building the UAE economy and the extraordinary control they have come to exercise over business and finance in the sheikhdom.

The number of Indian nationals — nearly two million — constitutes 27pc of the Emirates’ population of 9.4m. Taken together, all Gulf states have an Indian population of 9m, and let’s be clear that in a given geopolitical turmoil this population could be an extraordinary asset to India to help New Delhi advance its interests.

K.M. Panikkar’s India and the Indian Ocean is a much-quoted book, for it gives a clear indication of what Indian strategists think of their country’s role in relation to Asia and the Middle East. The gist of the thesis is that India must step into British shoes and play the role Britain did in the geographical mass between Aden and Singapore. He argued that the Indian Ocean must “truly remain Indian”.

No wonder the ‘Persian Gulf’ finds repeated mention in the post-Panikkar era. Indian Prime Minister Atal Behari Vajpayee told a military conference in 2003 that India’s “strategic frontiers” had grown beyond South Asia and that India’s “security environment ranges from the Persian Gulf to Straits of Malacca”. Similarly, former Indian navy chief Arun Prakash said India’s “strategic relevance” ranges “from the Persian Gulf to the Strait of Malacca.”

It is doubtful if the Gulf nations are aware of India’s naval ambitions. For reasons of history and geography Arab nations (and Iran) look west and seldom bother about developments in the east. In their worldview, the Pakistan-India relationship is a minor issue — a nuisance — and does not deserve the attention we think it must. Twice this year, the UAE has stunned us. In February, it invited an Indian foreign minister to a conference of Islamic foreign ministers, and it termed the Aug 5 villainy India’s internal matter.

Read: Islamabad apprises OIC of reservation over invite to India

The Asian Arab world has virtually no navy, even though 80pc of oil shipping passes through the Gulf of Hormuz. Pakistan has a vital interest in this crucial sea lane, and it is exactly for this reason that Gwadar port is an eyesore for many governments hostile to Pakistan.

The situation calls for Pakistan’s greater collaboration with Gulf navies in a manner that pre-empts any attempt by non-Gulf powers to penetrate what undoubtedly is Pakistan’s underbelly. Let Islamabad keep its eyes and ears open so as not get caught again by surprise. Bases are not begged for; bases are extorted or imposed. The host country has no choice but to follow the diktat of the economic hegemon. It is a pity that it is Pakistan that has to suffer because of the Arab ignorance of South Asian history.

The writer is Dawn Readers’ Editor and author.

Published in Dawn, December 10th, 2019
https://www.dawn.com/news/1521454/indian-navy-gulf





Who cares? india CANNOT mess with us and the Arabs Can all be wiped out for all we care. Not the problem of Pakistan and Pakistanis.
 
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Arkadash-im!! Please don't generalize the Arab folks!!! I am pretty sure many of them know the reality and trying to find a way out. Otherwise, Katar, and now Libya wouldn't have asked for the Turkish help. And, the Free Syrian Army wouldn't have trained, fought and sacrificed under the Turkish command....
Right now, Oman and UAE are asking for a war. There is not generalization of the truth. It is what it is. Qatar only asked for Turkish help because the west and the rest of the arabs made it into a scapegoat

Who cares? india CANNOT mess with us and the Arabs Can all be wiped out for all we care. Not the problem of Pakistan and Pakistanis.
But you can not let them circle you. You would be a fool to lock yourself in and wait for everything to pass. Oman is playing with fire right now and it will pay.
 
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Right now, Oman and UAE are asking for a war. There is not generalization of the truth. It is what it is. Qatar only asked for Turkish help because the west and the rest of the arabs made it into a scapegoat


But you can not let them circle you. You would be a fool to lock yourself in and wait for everything to pass. Oman is playing with fire right now and it will pay.




They've been trying for 72 years and haven't been able to. The indians simply don't have it in them to do so. But yes, we should always take precaution. A strong Pakistan is the answer. Nothing more.
 
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Another fun fact is that indian hindu right wingers consider Islam in india a remnant of arabs. They consider arabs the real evil that spread Islam to the indian subcontinent. So arabs should know what they are dealing with, some RSS extremists even claim hindus will take over arab countries and give example of UAE where huge mandirs are being built and claim of country being controlled by hindus.

Exactly, there were even some of their crazies declaring the Kaaba was once a Hindu temple and they want it ‘returned’. Eventually these very crazies will be in power once Modi drifts off. The naive Gulf Arabs think they can hold hands with Indian Hindutva leaders and it will never effect them. They will face that reckoning in 50-100 years.
 
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IT is unfair to draw lessons from the fate of a bankrupt Egypt in the 19th century and relate it to today’s economically vibrant Gulf states. Nevertheless one can detect a beep on the radar. In 1875, Britain purchased Khedive Ismail’s shares of the Suez Canal Company to become the majority shareholder — it already had its own shares.

The khedive’s reckless modernisation drive had made Egypt go broke. The loans he had secured from European powers, especially Britain and France, enabled the two, especially the former, to interfere in Egypt’s internal matters and tighten their economic stranglehold. The number of Europeans working in Egypt had gone up phenomenally. They were ubiquitous and were resented by Egyptians, especially army officers.

In 1880, there was a row between an Egyptian donkey cart boy and a European, and this led to a riot which killed a large number of people, including Europeans. While France was reluctant to act for reasons which do not concern us here, Britain used the opportunity to occupy Egypt. Thus, the Arab world’s most important country was to remain under British control till 1952 when Gamal Abdel Nasser and Mohammad Neguib overthrew the Albanian dynasty. The reader need not be told the moral of the story: the economic control of a country by a foreign power invariably leads to the former’s enslavement.

Against this background, Pakistan must carefully watch the economic and geopolitical developments in Gulf sheikhdoms and be alert to overt and covert moves that may in the long run affect its security. The people of Pakistan have still not recovered from the shock received from some Arab countries’ reaction to India’s annexation of occupied Kashmir. Saudi Arabia was neutral, but the UAE felt no qualms about calling the Aug 5 annexation decree India’s ‘internal matter’.

It is doubtful if Gulf nations are aware of India’s naval ambitions.

Various interpretations have since then been given about why Khalifa bin Zayed al Nahyan’s government behaved the way it did. One explanation is obvious: trade between the Emirates and India is estimated at $100bn. To this must be added the crucial role Indian expatriates have played and will continue to do so in building the UAE economy and the extraordinary control they have come to exercise over business and finance in the sheikhdom.

The number of Indian nationals — nearly two million — constitutes 27pc of the Emirates’ population of 9.4m. Taken together, all Gulf states have an Indian population of 9m, and let’s be clear that in a given geopolitical turmoil this population could be an extraordinary asset to India to help New Delhi advance its interests.

K.M. Panikkar’s India and the Indian Ocean is a much-quoted book, for it gives a clear indication of what Indian strategists think of their country’s role in relation to Asia and the Middle East. The gist of the thesis is that India must step into British shoes and play the role Britain did in the geographical mass between Aden and Singapore. He argued that the Indian Ocean must “truly remain Indian”.

No wonder the ‘Persian Gulf’ finds repeated mention in the post-Panikkar era. Indian Prime Minister Atal Behari Vajpayee told a military conference in 2003 that India’s “strategic frontiers” had grown beyond South Asia and that India’s “security environment ranges from the Persian Gulf to Straits of Malacca”. Similarly, former Indian navy chief Arun Prakash said India’s “strategic relevance” ranges “from the Persian Gulf to the Strait of Malacca.”

It is doubtful if the Gulf nations are aware of India’s naval ambitions. For reasons of history and geography Arab nations (and Iran) look west and seldom bother about developments in the east. In their worldview, the Pakistan-India relationship is a minor issue — a nuisance — and does not deserve the attention we think it must. Twice this year, the UAE has stunned us. In February, it invited an Indian foreign minister to a conference of Islamic foreign ministers, and it termed the Aug 5 villainy India’s internal matter.

Read: Islamabad apprises OIC of reservation over invite to India

The Asian Arab world has virtually no navy, even though 80pc of oil shipping passes through the Gulf of Hormuz. Pakistan has a vital interest in this crucial sea lane, and it is exactly for this reason that Gwadar port is an eyesore for many governments hostile to Pakistan.

The situation calls for Pakistan’s greater collaboration with Gulf navies in a manner that pre-empts any attempt by non-Gulf powers to penetrate what undoubtedly is Pakistan’s underbelly. Let Islamabad keep its eyes and ears open so as not get caught again by surprise. Bases are not begged for; bases are extorted or imposed. The host country has no choice but to follow the diktat of the economic hegemon. It is a pity that it is Pakistan that has to suffer because of the Arab ignorance of South Asian history.

The writer is Dawn Readers’ Editor and author.

Published in Dawn, December 10th, 2019
https://www.dawn.com/news/1521454/indian-navy-gulf
Why do we care? Let their shortsighteness destroy themselves.
 
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IT is unfair to draw lessons from the fate of a bankrupt Egypt in the 19th century and relate it to today’s economically vibrant Gulf states.
With exception of a few, gulf states aren't "vibrant" actually. Even those which are, have many holes.
They built themselves up on natural resources but lacked economic diversification that is needed to build their national, economic, food, technology, information and other securities in long term.

They have realized it lately and started working on themselves rather than running around for a nonexistent ummah brotherhood. Their prevalent economic proposerity will hasten their goals. While those who still haven't learnt will suffer.
Question is when will stupid arabs wake up to the fact that India isn't their friend?
May my all esteemed Pakistani friends explain me how India is a threat for Arabs.

India has some of world's largest refineries and have built strategic storages to protect their oil.
They have intense inbuilt hatred of muslims.
What's prevalent strongly disagrees with you.
India has very cordial relations with most of Islamic countries around the world except few fundamentalist ones (and obviously they instead try to victimize themselves).
Arab countries are literally hijras in front of India military speaking.
As if rest of South Asians are any different.
With no navy to speak off.
As if Pakistan does.

It's pretty obvious that they will seek Indian Navy as net security provider.
Lets forget about nuclear weapons for a moment.
They have both overtly and covertly acquired nuclear weapons and ballistic missiles.
With millions of Indians working in Gulf countries who are huge security risk.
Security risk for whom? India at best can bend Arab diplomacy for its interests.
Another fun fact is that indian hindu right wingers consider Islam in india a remnant of arabs.
They rather consider it one of two great Abrahamic infestations (other being Christianity) those were on mission to convert entire world.

Obviously, this grievance of past doesn't bother India's foreign policy. India even builds mosques overseas.
They consider arabs the real evil that spread Islam to the indian subcontinent.
Arabs are much like Hindus who have their own language, culture and religion within their own geographical region of origin. No one has a problem if they have jurisdiction in their own frontiers.
They consider arabs the real evil that spread Islam to the indian subcontinent. So arabs should know what they are dealing with, some RSS extremists even claim hindus will take over arab countries and give example of UAE where huge mandirs are being built and claim of country being controlled by hindus.
Seriously, what kind of $h!t people are fed with? 95% of total Hindus are concentrated in just one country and didn't chose to go around and invade & kill others.

There are over 30 Christian & Islamic countries, a couple of Budhhist countries and not a single Hindu country. And Hindu majority countries didn't become secular after some sort of civil war, they voluntarily chose to be secular as their religion doesn't advocate conflict against others.

Even ideology of Sangh Parivar is called "Positive secularism" coz "Hindu Rashtra" won't be able to implement any much different rules for people. Hindus as whole unlike Muslims & Christians don't have any book governing their lives.
Who cares? india CANNOT mess with us and the Arabs Can all be wiped out for all we care. Not the problem of Pakistan and Pakistanis.
Indeed LOL
All the drama in past year we have seen India seeking an opportunity to hit and Pakistan writing letters to "World Powers" (P5 countries) to "play their role" (bachao) in a conflict between two regional powas in mega-region of South Asia that absolutely holds no value for anyone.

Seriously, do Pakistanis only write for trolling or they actually don't even bother sit and compare assets of both sides.
They've been trying for 72 years and haven't been able to. The indians simply don't have it in them to do so. But yes, we should always take precaution. A strong Pakistan is the answer. Nothing more.
Within past 72 years, they have broken your country in pieces which was created to balance India, leaving them only regional power in IOR.
Whatever little relevance you had was ripped apart after economic divide started in 80s. It left India with no alternative formidable force in Oceania, East Africa, Gulf, South Asia and Southeast Asia.

Gap is still enlarging. Overall nominal growth of Pakistan stands half of India. Whenever India slows, Pak meets economic recession, whenever India meets recession, Pak meets economic depression.

Soon as Indian economy grows and graduates to upper middle income, all budgets will start to shoot up exponentially.

Within 10 years, difference between India & Pak will be enough to make Pak stop making any difference to India.

"India is a threat to Arabs" for a reason we don't know.

"India can't and won't capture Pakistan despite all military build up in long term" for a reason we don't know.

"China will continue to pamper Pakistan always" for a reason we don't know.

And
"Pakistan will give befitting reply to India in all new technologies emerging lately" for a reason we all again don't know.

The one who thinks there is any other regional power than India in and around Indian Ocean region is an idiot.
The naive Gulf Arabs think they can hold hands with Indian Hindutva leaders and it will never effect them. They will face that reckoning in 50-100 years.
Hindus had their population stable back in 2011 and have started declining already in second half of this decade. Within next 50-100 years, they will drop below 60% and will struggle in identity poltics within their own country. They will even drop below 50% if Bangladesh, India and Pakistan reunify in meantime.
Exactly, there were even some of their crazies declaring the Kaaba was once a Hindu temple and they want it ‘returned’.
It's a pathetic fantasy and doesn't have much base within even Indian far right parties. Indian Kings didn't expand beyond Persia in west. Karkota dynasty (Kashmiri empire, if ever heard of Lalitaditya) expended in North till Caspian sea and then Chol, Chalukyas and east India dynasties in Indochina and Southeast Asia. You won't find any signs of Hindu culture beyond the region called "greater India". Whatever historical temples Hindus had are in these countries.
Eventually these very crazies will be in power once Modi drifts off.
BJP has been going liberal center-right just like 1998 after 2019 while left has started talking about Hindu issues if you watch over Indian political circus.

Nothing is going to happen. The control and stablisation of Indian demographics was always on agenda of both parties.
 
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