Indian naval fleet docks at Iran’s Bandar Abbas port

[acetophenol]

The Brahmaputra class followed the Godavari's in the 1990s with significant upgrades in the air and surface weapons and number of missiles. Due to the shortfalls in weapon indigenization in India by certain other Government departments the Navy continued with procuring weapon systems from overseas and integrating them locally with hardware and software from both BEL and the Navy's own in-house electronics integration teams. Because we chose to stick with machinery we manufactured locally the Brahmaputra class are propelled by the same steam turbines that moved INS Nilgiri. Our Brahmaputra class along with the Chinese 'Luzhou' class of destroyers were the last warships of a major Navy to be built with conventional steam turbines. The Chinese chose steam turbines for the same reason.

#T The Brahmaputra class became the second class of warships to carry the indigenously developed and manufactured medium range panoramic sonar. The sonar is a submarine hunting device that locates a submarine by pinging a sound wave and measuring the return echo. Western sonars which were tuned for temperate waters did not perform well in our tropical conditions. The Navy developed what is called the APSOH - Advanced Panoramic SOnar Hull. The project was led by Captain AJ Paulraj with support from the National Oceanographic & Physical Laboratory. The sonar developed was very successful and its improved versions continue to be fitted under the hulls of all Indian warships even today. For his contribution to the nation he received the Padma Bhushan. These sonars were later retrofitted onto the Godavari trio. Paulraj is now a Professor in USA

-Courtesy, V,Narayan @ T_BHP

 

[Hack-Hook]

The threat is very real

The paranoia is because of the size of the threat

The priorities are being slowly streamlined



What a load of %$^$$^&%

Which facility ???

Our nuclear program came under scrutiny because you along with the Libyans ratted us out !

Your nuclear program was under scrunity after you detonated the bomb . It had nothing to do with iran.
And go read about the incodent and how then usa moved one of their career from persian gulf toward pakistan and they were at the time on alert to bomb that facility if taliban breach that base defence. And how many time your government assured the word that defence of those bombs are your top priority.

The Actual Fact. Iran did provide Intelligence.

Inteligence on what ? The feench who worked there probably gave the info
As no freanch worker were present at the time of bombing .

The Actual Fact. Iran did provide Intelligence.

Inteligence on what ? The feench who worked there probably gave the info
As no freanch worker were present at the time of bombing .

Iran need not to,.... but it also need not to form any military alliance with a state which is killing Muslims all over India.
In the end, no good favors were ever expected from Iran anyway.

Conflict with Iraq was not with Saddam, it was fallout of new religious revolution thereof attempts of its propagation.

The biggest killer of muslims in islamic land is ISIS and Al-qaeda and who are their prime supporter.

 

[B@KH]

What is the big deal? two indian navy ships docked iranian port, I think this is not the first time and it is not going to be the last time, I wish iran to keep this friendship strong it favors my country.

@B@KH The biggest looser is the one who carries flag of one country and breathes for another. I pray people like you will not be dumped for Islamic Republic's personal interests or sent to syria for war as cannon fodders, because by that time it will be too late for you to associate back with Pakistan. Better understand it now that lazmi nahi Khamana e ky kehnay pay he jihad farz hai . Qibla durust kar lo, warna yeh tumhay bhi L pay rakhay gay aik din

see your own post. you are not educated to talk at that level.

 

[Burhan Wani]

Umm..you are aware that you didn't "liberate" Kashmir, right?

You should rephrase your post to "We fought three wars and sacrificed a lot, but failed to liberate Kashmir."

(And don't give me that cr@p about "liberating" one third of Kashmir. You stole it from the independent Kingdom of Kashmir, not from India. India subsequently stepped in and drove you back from most of Kashmir, including the strategic Srinagar airport.)



From India?

No, you stole (not liberated) it from the independent Kingdom of Kashmir, causing them to lose their (our) azadi.

You stole it before India entered Kashmir. You reached up to Srinagar. You were then driven back from most places, including Srinagar, by the Indian army that answered the call of the ruler of Kashmir.



What's your point, namesdropping some regiments of the Pakistan army?

Here you go, these are from the Indian army:

Jammu and Kashmir Light Infantry - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Jammu & Kashmir Rifles - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



Did you find out what the increased number is? 50+ last year, and 80+ this year.

As opposed to the tens of thousands of Kashmiris serving in the Indian military, and the J-K police force.

Kashmir minister's guard flees with two AK-47 rifles : North, News - India Today
Dozens of them flee and joined mujahideen and working undercover for freedom.
Our main objective was to ruin Maharaja and be informed there were ex british army officers and jawans involved in the liberation of Ajk and GB.
Answer me if Kashmir was a property of Maharaja then WTH Indian army is doing there.?

 

[I.R.A]

see your own post. you are not educated to talk at that level.

Sannu ki ........................

 

[Psychic]

I know what is the topic, but you don't. .. the topic is IN port call and joint exercise with Iran navy... but the topic being discussed here is kashmir,muslim brotherhood. .. blah blah... aren't the pakistan who invited US into the S.asia.. been ally to US for 6 decades. .. did whatever US said.. followed the orders... now just master changed but the attitude didn't. .. you guys feel happy, when chinese navy subs docked in pak.. jumped with joy said lot of hulla bulla... and now feeling sad because Iran improving ties with India... lolz... funny people. ..

Your countryman came to take a piss in this thread. I just responded to his BS and it seems that my factual response is the cause of your pain and agony.
My post however was none of your concern. And as for rest of your retarded post, I can give a jaw breaking response to it but that will further derail the thread so I would refrain from doing so. Whatever Pakistanis are, they are enough to turn the likes of you into mince meat.
Now instead of doing more bakwas, you better shut up and crawl back to your Indian section and worship your stupid Modi.

 

[I.R.A]

Your countryman came to take a piss in this thread. I just responded to his BS and it seems that my factual response is the cause of your pain and agony.
My post however was none of your concern. And as for rest of your retarded post, I can give a jaw breaking response to it but that will further derail the thread so I would refrain from doing so. Whatever Pakistanis are, they are enough to turn the likes of you into mince meat.
Now instead of doing more bakwas, you better shut up and crawl back to your Indian section and worship your stupid Modi.

The double standards

China Uses Models to Pose as Troops for Big Military Parade | Page 2

 

[ayesha.a]

Problem is Iran is inviting Indian navy to the mouth of Pakistan's most strategic port city. Why not Iran go to Andaman islands for its much needed training?

Every major Islamic country has invited the Indian navy to their ports. I have given links for several such such visits in the past few years. Iran cannot help the fact that they are close to Pakistan. They can only invite he IN to their own ports, whether or not they happen to be close to Pakistan.

If Indonesia was located where Iran is, Exercise CORPAT would have taken place in that region too. Same with any other country. Iran cannot invite India for joint exercises or port calls in South Africa, to be far away from Pakistan.

 

[Psychic]

The USA not only attacks Afghanistan

Correction: Attacked (not attacks). Update your info.

spies on Iran from their bases in Pakistan,

baseless allegation. Bases were given after mutual understanding and written agreements. You can spin around regular Indian conspiracy theories but those are just conspiracy theories and nothing more. History (Pak-Iran) is a testament to that.

but also routinely bomb Pakistanis in Pakistan.

That alledged base was vacated 3-4 years ago.

 

[ayesha.a]

Iran need not to,.... but it also need not to form any military alliance with a state which is killing Muslims all over India.

Pakistan is killing far more muslims than India is.

BTW, how many muslims has India killed in UP, Bihar, Kerala, Assam, MP etc in the past few years, or even decades? That's a bigger muslim collective than almost any country on earth.

The last major massacre of muslims was in 2002 in Gujarat (close to 1,000) , and there were (much lesser) massacres of hindus as well. The Indian state has not killed muslims as state policy across India.

From 2002 to 2015, how many muslims have been killed in attacks in Pakistan? 50,000? 60,000?

 

[Psychic]

go read about the incodent and how then usa moved one of their career from persian gulf toward pakistan and they were at the time on alert to bomb that facility if taliban breach that base defence. And how many time your government assured the word that defence of those bombs are your top priority.

LoL now u believe in the propaganda of shaitan buzurg. Must also belive in axis of evil label. Was that right wasn't it?
As for our nukes and taliban, go study conflict map of that time, I belive you are be able to read maps.
It is better if you worry about Mossad breaches in your nuclear facilities. They plant viruses and kill scientists at will.

 

[ayesha.a]

Modi has accepted making of 1971 of its own... so all Muslim killings can be credited in your account, without doubt.

Dafuq? Modi said that he did operation searchlight? Have you any idea what you are talking about?

The only "admission" (as if it was a secret) was that India raised and trained the Mukti Bahini. When have we ever denied this? We have always been proud of that, of raising trained battalions on foreign soil, right under the enemy's nose. After the objectives were achieved, and the enemy was cut into two, the Muktis were dismantled and demobilized. That's called resistance. Partisans. Read up the terms.

The mass murder of East Pakistani civilians was done by te Pak army, and General Tikka Khan is called the 'Butcher of Bangladesh". India raised and trained the Mukti Bahinis to free their land from the oppressive and murderous Pakistani state.

The genocide was by Pakistan. The training of freedom fighters was by India.

Oh stop this propaganda, as if India was not dying to offer their bases after 9/11.

Does / did India not have a base in Tajikistan? Bhutan? Muscat? Afghanistan? Mauritius?

Yes. But India does not host foreign bases.

And no, India was not "dying to" offer our bases to USA, or anybody else. Any government that does so, would be committing political hara-kiri.

There is no frigging way, that self respecting nations like India or Iran would host foreign bases. It is simply unthinkable for us. You may not understand that, being a country that begs foreigners to set up bases for some spare change. The almighty dollar is more important than self respect, and American aircrafts can even bomb your own people.

Can you please substantiate your ridiculous aspersion, that India was "dying to offer bases" to the USA post 9/11? Could you give me a few newspaper articles about India asking the US to setup bases, but being turned down? Or at least, just about India offering bases? What rubbish - you think everybody is like you?

Everything appears yellow to a jaundiced eye.

The biggest killer of muslims in islamic land is ISIS and Al-qaeda and who are their prime supporter.

Are you sure about that? Check out the number of muslims killed in Pakistan by Pakistanis in the last decade, I'm sure they can give ISIS and AQ a run for their money.

But yes, no other country's common people support such groups more than Pakistan's.

Kashmir minister's guard flees with two AK-47 rifles : North, News - India Today
Dozens of them flee and joined mujahideen and working undercover for freedom.
Our main objective was to ruin Maharaja and be informed there were ex british army officers and jawans involved in the liberation of Ajk and GB.
Answer me if Kashmir was a property of Maharaja then WTH Indian army is doing there.?

It wasn't the property of the ruler, it was the property of all Kashmiris. The rajah was the ruler. The Indian army only stepped in after the ruler of Kashmir legally and legitimately acceded to India, and begged us to stop the marauding Pashtun tribals and Pak army. We did that, and more - we even drove them back from important places like Srinagar.

Your real question should be, what were Pakistani Pakhtun lashkars doing in Kashmir when it was still and independent country? It was that invasion and the associated pillaging that compelled the ruler of Kashmir to accede to India and beg our support.

Correction: Attacked (not attacks). Update your info.

Sure. Now that they have installed a friendly govt there, they no longer need to attack Afghanistan. But they still do attack talibanis, who were Pakistan's best friends prior to 9/11.

baseless allegation. Bases were given after mutual understanding and written agreements. You can spin around regular Indian conspiracy theories but those are just conspiracy theories and nothing more. History (Pak-Iran) is a testament to that.

Mutual understanding and written agreements between Pakistan and USA, not involving Iran. And that too wasn't really an "agreement" between equals; GWB sternly said you are with them or against them, and Pak quickly capitulated.

Besides, you missed the point of the post. The point was that Iran hosting Indian warship for a port call is a far cry from Pakistan hosting American military bases for war. And yet, your countryman was chiding Iran for inviting your enemy for a port call, when you have hosted Iran's enemies for years, not just for port calls, but for full fledged and operational military bases.

That alledged base was vacated 3-4 years ago.

If it was only an "alleged" base, how was it vacated? Or was the vacating also an "allegation"?

One base (Shamsi AFB) was vacated after the US army massacred 24 Pakistani armymen. As long as they were killing only Pakistani civilians, they were welcome to stay. That says a lot about your lack of self respect.

 

[I.R.A]

Yes. But India does not host foreign bases.

And no, India was not "dying to" offer our bases to USA, or anybody else. Any government that does so, would be committing political hara-kiri.

There is no frigging way, that self respecting nations like India or Iran would host foreign bases. It is simply unthinkable for us. You may not understand that, being a country that begs foreigners to set up bases for some spare change. The almighty dollar is more important than self respect, and American aircrafts can even bomb your own people.

Can you please substantiate your ridiculous aspersion, that India was "dying to offer bases" to the USA post 9/11? Could you give me a few newspaper articles about India asking the US to setup bases, but being turned down? Or at least, just about India offering bases? What rubbish - you think everybody is like you?

Everything appears yellow to a jaundiced eye.

Everything appears yellow to a jaundiced eye. Yes it does.

Lady ask your Iranian friends here if they would not want those killed in drone strikes dead too. And for goodness sake take one side don't act baniya all the time, either you support terrorists and bash Pakistan or you condemn terrorists and accept Pakistan has played the leading role in WOT and hence your whole argument is flawed. i.e. "US bombing Pakistanis inside Pakistan", there are lots of things in Pakistan US relationship which are beyond you, you cannot understand because you don't have what it takes to understand that.

Are you someone high up in Indian establishment that would know India was not dying to provide its bases? If you were up to date with the geopolitics you would have known that someone, a key decision maker, someone who played an important role in all this post 9/11 scenario based his decision because you were all for lending the support in your love for Pakistan, but you choose to remain ignorant and ask me for links and that too of Indian newspapers what a joke.

And let me tell you one thing very clearly, if they wanted your bases you would have given them, whether you liked it or not, but the thing is you don't enjoy a strategic position and location on map, in important geo strategic games you were always second to Pakistan in terms of location and you will remain so, and may be that is one key reason for you going to Ummah all over the globe to conspire against a Muslim country

 

[Burhan Wani]

It wasn't the property of the ruler, it was the property of all Kashmiris. The rajah was the ruler. The Indian army only stepped in after the ruler of Kashmir legally and legitimately acceded to India, and begged us to stop the marauding Pashtun tribals and Pak army. We did that, and more - we even drove them back from important places like Srinagar.

Your real question should be, what were Pakistani Pakhtun lashkars doing in Kashmir when it was still and independent country? It was that invasion and the associated pillaging that compelled the ruler of Kashmir to accede to India and beg our support.

Article 3 In consideration of the transfer made to him and his heirs by the provisions of the foregoing article Maharajah Gulab Singh will pay to the British Government the sum of seventy-five lakhs of rupees (Nanukshahee), fifty lakhs to be paid on or before the 1st October of the current year, A.D., 1846.
Treaty of Amritsar, 1846 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
I was not expecting i am talking to a person unaware of history.
Lashkars were deployed only to secure kashmiri muhajirs.
They moved voluntarily to capture Rajuri and srinagar due to external pressure they returned to original positions.
Maharjas army was very superior to newly formed Azad Kashmir regular Foces.
A person in my avatar personally captured entire rawalakot with handful men.
A question is when indain army got controlled srinagar and major part of Kashmir then why they didn't tried to recapture Azad kashmir and GB?

 

[gau8av]

Dafuq? Modi said that he did operation searchlight? Have you any idea what you are talking about?

The only "admission" (as if it was a secret) was that India raised and trained the Mukti Bahini. When have we ever denied this? We have always been proud of that, of raising trained battalions on foreign soil, right under the enemy's nose. After the objectives were achieved, and the enemy was cut into two, the Muktis were dismantled and demobilized. That's called resistance. Partisans. Read up the terms.

The mass murder of East Pakistani civilians was done by te Pak army, and General Tikka Khan is called the 'Butcher of Bangladesh". India raised and trained the Mukti Bahinis to free their land from the oppressive and murderous Pakistani state.

The genocide was by Pakistan. The training of freedom fighters was by India.



Yes. But India does not host foreign bases.

And no, India was not "dying to" offer our bases to USA, or anybody else. Any government that does so, would be committing political hara-kiri.

There is no frigging way, that self respecting nations like India or Iran would host foreign bases. It is simply unthinkable for us. You may not understand that, being a country that begs foreigners to set up bases for some spare change. The almighty dollar is more important than self respect, and American aircrafts can even bomb your own people.

Can you please substantiate your ridiculous aspersion, that India was "dying to offer bases" to the USA post 9/11? Could you give me a few newspaper articles about India asking the US to setup bases, but being turned down? Or at least, just about India offering bases? What rubbish - you think everybody is like you?

Everything appears yellow to a jaundiced eye.



Are you sure about that? Check out the number of muslims killed in Pakistan by Pakistanis in the last decade, I'm sure they can give ISIS and AQ a run for their money.

But yes, no other country's common people support such groups more than Pakistan's.



It wasn't the property of the ruler, it was the property of all Kashmiris. The rajah was the ruler. The Indian army only stepped in after the ruler of Kashmir legally and legitimately acceded to India, and begged us to stop the marauding Pashtun tribals and Pak army. We did that, and more - we even drove them back from important places like Srinagar.

Your real question should be, what were Pakistani Pakhtun lashkars doing in Kashmir when it was still and independent country? It was that invasion and the associated pillaging that compelled the ruler of Kashmir to accede to India and beg our support.