Indian Muslims want 'Ground Zero Mosque' relocated

[diva]

So? Muslims participate during Holi in India and Pakistan, and participate in festivities for Diwali as well (at least in India). What judgement do you have for them?

And the respect part of your statement was too ironic and hilarious to respond.

May be they are not muslims any more.....

 

[Peshwa]

Taking Islam seriously has nothing to do with killing people but quite the opposite. Taking Islam seriously means you resort to dialogue before sword, posses humbleness, forgiveness, patience, integrity and honestly. Remember Jinnah was a Muslim and he tore apart Ghandi's India without firing a bullet.

LOL.....do you figure then that 2MM Hindus and Muslims of the sub continent just dissapeared into thin air?

Our geographical boundaries are the result of pure bloodshed......

The problem with India and Pakistan is.....
We cant live with each other....Nor can we live without the other!

 

[Peshwa]

I have seen and know Hindus celebrate Christmas just to get accepted among whitey while we Muslim and Jews doesn't yet we get more respect then Hindus in general. Your people belong to weakest link here.

Dont get emotional old man!

First off.....Stay on topic.....The thread is about Indian Muslim being opinionated about their political views.....
No need to throw in your insecurity and complexes wrt to Hinduism..

Secondly, if your lot likes to conform to a certain channel of thought...good for you, dont impose it on others, Hindus or Muslims.....each individual...I repeat individual has the right to practice and interpret their own religions based on their beliefs and philosophy....
You dont need to be praying from a minaret in front of a loud speaker to be a good muslim....

 

[banned]

LOL.....do you figure then that 2MM Hindus and Muslims of the sub continent just dissapeared into thin air?

Our geographical boundaries are the result of pure bloodshed......

The problem with India and Pakistan is.....
We cant live with each other....Nor can we live without the other!

Pakistan can live without India.
Indian vote bank will collapse without the boogey man of Pakistan.

 

[Peshwa]

Pakistan can live without India.
Indian vote bank will collapse without the boogey man of Pakistan.

That has got to be one of most non-sensical statements ever!

"Indian vote bank will collapse without the boogey man of Pakistan."

What does that even mean?

 

[GentlemanObserver]

Lets stay on topic please. What does India, Hindu, Pakistan or Christianity have to do with "Muslim Americans" of Indian origin objecting to this project. Please stay on topic... TA

 

[Durran3]

I have seen and know Hindus celebrate Christmas just to get accepted among whitey while we Muslim and Jews doesn't yet we get more respect then Hindus in general. Your people belong to weakest link here.

I have a question for you Al-Zakir. Have you EVER and I mean EVER lived in a Multicultural, diverse society? If you have you should know better that many different people from many different cultures live together and celebrate various holidays, religious festivals and events. Neighbors helping each, going to each others religious holidays and respecting each others space at the same time. Its what we call a diverse and sophisticated society. Its called tolerance and accepting people with differences, something I have noticed your probably not good at by reading your posts, but I hope I am dead wrong.

I celebrate Christmas with my friends to does that mean I am out there to get Whitey points or what ever the F that means? No.. it means I have genuine friends whose differences I accept and I get involved in their religious functions because its social and fun thing to do and vice versa. The Same people than also go to Divali festivals and eat with other Muslims in Ramadan at Iftari time... So get of your self proclaimed Superior horse and live like a Human and learn to tolerate differences.

Also in todays world Muslims and Jews don't get the most respect.. their apparently known to be the most violent bunch, if by implying thats respect than no its not.. its ignorance. Respect comes from Respecting others and allowing them their space while telling others to give you your space... calling Hindus the weakest link shows how tolerant you are and thats FAR from being respect worthy

 

[JanjaWeed]

peace loving people from a peace loving nation do not want to disturb peace in their adopted country! good move. really proud of my fellow indians. peace is primary. relegion, race, cast, colour or creed.. all these are secondary.

 

[GentlemanObserver]

peace loving people from a peace loving nation do not want to disturb peace in their adopted country! good move. really proud of my fellow indians. peace is primary. relegion, race, cast, colour or creed.. all these are secondary.

Martin Niemöller's famous words come to mind here...

 

[diva]

If a mosque brings disturbance to a region what is the primary point of having it apart from chest thumping. Islam preaches peace and if the peace is disrupted by any act of any Muslim i dont think it would be justified by Islam.

PS: I am not a scholar of Islam but i do understand this that peace should not be at the cost.

 

[GentlemanObserver]

If a mosque brings disturbance to a region what is the primary point of having it apart from chest thumping. Islam preaches peace and if the peace is disrupted by any act of any Muslim i dont think it would be justified by Islam.

PS: I am not a scholar of Islam but i do understand this that peace should not be at the cost.

Only one problem here.... It's NOT a MOSQUE!

 

[diva]

Only one problem here.... It's NOT a MOSQUE!

same i meant Islamic center.... what is the point of having it when it can disrupt peace. Its mere chest thumping towards others and will create more hatred.

 

[GentlemanObserver]

same i meant Islamic center.... what is the point of having it when it can disrupt peace. Its mere chest thumping towards others and will create more hatred.

Islamic center

Wrong again... Its a cultural centre.

Its mere chest thumping towards others and will create more hatred.

How so? I find that choice of words very strange? How can a minority "chest thump"... Sorry but that is any oxy-moron in this scenario. Granted i have stated this earlier as well, that even if Muslims offer to cease construction they will be people who will stick to their guns "How dare they even think" mentality... What of those?

What of the temple across the road? With a synagogue was being constructed at the site or a strip bar? Why the hullabaloo? Because it is a cultural centre build by an "Islamic organisation"?

The issue was that it upset the sentiments of the families of victims of 9/11 right? Well what do the opposition have to say to this?

9/11 families rally in support of mosque near Ground Zero:
gulfnews : 9/11 families rally in support of mosque near Ground Zero

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Sorry as i see it, this is more about bigotry then "American values" or "sentiments".

And thousands non-Muslims who attended that event yesterday in support of the centre clearly prove that this has nothing to do with "chest thumping"...

 

[Al-zakir]

I have a question for you Al-Zakir. Have you EVER and I mean EVER lived in a Multicultural, diverse society? If you have you should know better that many different people from many different cultures live together and celebrate various holidays, religious festivals and events. Neighbors helping each, going to each others religious holidays and respecting each others space at the same time. Its what we call a diverse and sophisticated society. Its called tolerance and accepting people with differences, something I have noticed your probably not good at by reading your posts, but I hope I am dead wrong.

There is different between religious holidays and national holidays. I personally have no problem celebrating thanks giving and 4th of July since it has no religious affiliation.

Christmas is purely a Cristian holiday so therefore I humbly omit from celebrating that conflict with Islamic believe. I too have close friend from Christan back ground and they seem to be O.K with it.

I celebrate Christmas with my friends to does that mean I am out there to get Whitey points or what ever the F that means? No.. it means I have genuine friends whose differences I accept and I get involved in their religious functions because its social and fun thing to do and vice versa.

The Same people than also go to Divali festivals and eat with other Muslims in Ramadan at Iftari time... So get of your self proclaimed Superior horse and live like a Human and learn to tolerate differences.

Well it is your choice to get involve with religious festival. I for one neither can stop nor encourage you with such activity.

However same point arose with Nabi kareem(s.w.a.s). None Muslim of then Arabia asked nabi Kareem(s.w.a.s) to share religion. Thus Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala directed us with Surah kafiroon. Please do read it and understand the meaning carefully.

بِسْمِ اللَّهِ الرَّحْمَـنِ الرَّحِيم

In the Name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful.



قُلْ يأَيُّهَا الْكَـفِرُونَ

109:1 Say: "O disbelievers!''

لاَ أَعْبُدُ مَا تَعْبُدُونَ

109:2 "I worship not that which you worship.''

وَلاَ أَنتُمْ عَـبِدُونَ مَآ أَعْبُدُ

109:3 "Nor will you worship whom I worship.''

وَلا أَنَآ عَابِدٌ مَّا عَبَدتُّمْ

109:4 "And I shall not worship that which you are worshipping.''

وَلاَ أَنتُمْ عَـبِدُونَ مَآ أَعْبُدُ

109:5 "Nor will you worship that which I worship.''

لَكُمْ دِينُكُمْ وَلِىَ دِينِ

109:6 "To you be your religion, and to me my religion.''

 

[Al-zakir]

Btw Al-Zakir, i'm still waiting for your reply on my previous post

Desiman and the so called Indian Muslim group that opposing this Islamic cultural plus Masjid are fake and cowards. We are to label them as traitor and sold out to special interest. We banned them from main stream American Muslims.