Indian Missiles - News, Developments, Tests, and Discussions

[ironman]

More interesting part is, it said to be an "user trail". I'm expecting more to come.

 

[Spitfighter]

Could it be that they were testing the missile with new(indigenous) equipment? It makes no sense to test the missile with foreign systems and induct them with our own.

 

[gogbot]

Could it be that they were testing the missile with new(indigenous) equipment? It makes no sense to test the missile with foreign systems and induct them with our own.

Finally some one who gets it.
Why else would they test a proven platform that has already been inducted.But to test new equipment. On a stable test bed.

I cant believe no one else even suspected that DRDO was testing some thing in secret on the Agni-II

The test didn't go as planned. But everything else about Putting the credibility of the missile in jeopardy has been media hype.

 

[Spitfighter]

Finally some one who gets it.
Why else would they test a proven platform that has already been inducted.But to test new equipment. On a stable test bed.

I cant believe no one else even suspected that DRDO was testing some thing in secret on the Agni-II

The test didn't go as planned. But everything else about Putting the credibility of the missile in jeopardy has been media hype.

Well I certainly hope so, but then why would they call it a 'user trial'? because that implies that the 'user' i.e the army was testing the missile to verify its performance. If they were indeed testing something new, wouldn't it just be called a test or something?

 

[gogbot]

Well I certainly hope so, but then why would they call it a 'user trial'? because that implies that the 'user' i.e the army was testing the missile to verify its performance. If they were indeed testing something new, wouldn't it just be called a test or something?

Perhaps they were testing missile lifespan.
They have had these Missiles for a long time now.

Maintenance could have found suspected problems with the missiles,
Not being canistered they have a limited life span.

They probably took one of the suspected old missile and checked to see if problems did arise.

Or

maybe they were testing to see if Installing certain new equipment can extend the life of these missiles.

I doubt its a problem with the Missiles core design, But more related to the service issue or new eqipment.

 

[Spitfighter]

Perhaps they were testing missile lifespan.
They have had these Missiles for a long time now.

Maintenance could have found suspected problems with the missiles,
Not being canistered they have a limited life span.

They probably took one of the suspected old missile and checked to see if problems did arise.

Or

maybe they were testing to see if Installing certain new equipment can extend the life of these missiles.

I doubt its a problem with the Missiles core design, But more related to the service issue or new eqipment.

I hate how the DRDO consistently fails the nation and then runs away leaving us in the dark. They should be held accountable, its our taxes so the least they can do is give us an explanation so we can put an end to all this speculation.

 

[gogbot]

I hate how the DRDO consistently fails the nation and then runs away leaving us in the dark. They should be held accountable, its our taxes so the least they can do is give us an explanation so we can put an end to all this speculation.

Most nations done even develop Missiles.

Those that do, release very little or no public information

Some just stay quite all together and display their new weapons in parades

some have an amazing string of only success

Some hear about their Missile programme critisised from Head toe.
Analyzed and debated everyday, all frankly because they get too much information.

Regardless of what you think India could be doing a lot worse. we have done alright for our selves, lets not get picky about that.

 

[Spitfighter]

Most nations done even develop Missiles.

Those that do, release very little or no public information

Some just stay quite all together and display their new weapons in parades

some have an amazing string of only success

Some hear about their Missile programme critisised from Head toe.
Analyzed and debated everyday, all frankly because they get too much information.

Regardless of what you think India could be doing a lot worse. we have done alright for our selves, lets not get picky about that.

China and Pakistan are no yardsticks, we should aspire to be better than the best, I understand developing country yeh woh, but the least they can do is have some transparency, accountability and streamline acquisitions/JV's and the like.

Our modernization program is moving at a snails pace, and looking at the situation around us, 'alright' just isn't good enough IMO. We could have been a lot worse, but then again we could do a lot better too.

 

[PAFAce]

some have an amazing string of only success

I'm sorry, what that a low-blow aimed at us? Is our success rate bothering you? Difficult to digest? Or was that an honest statement?

Here's what I wrote on the other thread dedicated to the Agni II test.

Ah, it's engineering. They will learn, and they will move on. I promise you in all fields, especially in engineering, you learn more from failures than you do from success. I speak from both academic and professional experience. Though, I couldn't understand the fuss made about the daytime vs nighttime launch. Your media really should trust you scientists in this sort of thing, they are, after all, some of the best in the world. Can someone explain to me why there is so much emphasis being placed on the nighttime launch?

Also, not to derail the thread or anything, but this really makes one appreciate our own so-called "low cost" missile program.

http://www.defence.pk/forums/india-defence/40112-indias-agni-ii-missile-test-fails.html#post563566

Now that is very interesting, the bit about foreign made inertial nav systems versus an indigenously developed one. Who authorized the change? What were the test results for the indigenous system that would convince the authority that the two were parity? If this is true, it further support the suspicion that this failure is human caused, that someone made a decision for a system change with possibly inferior hardware.

It is difficult to believe, gambit, that an organization as professional and experienced as the DRDO would make such a basic error. If the problem is what you speculate, then very likely the decision was political. It's not uncommon, the defense and politics sleep in the same bed.

 

[gogbot]

I'm sorry, what that a low-blow aimed at us? Is our success rate bothering you? Difficult to digest? Or was that an honest statement?

Well i was actually making an observation.
There could any number of reasons why you have a 100% sucess rate.
May be you really are good at it.

Then again your best Buds the chines who probably thought u a thing or two about public perception. and you only announce what u want to announce.

Noting wrong with it. I was only making an of the level of transparency that exists around us.

 

[RPK]

Agni-II glitches to be removed: Antony

New Delhi, Nov 27 (IANS) Defence Minister A.K. Antony Friday downplayed the recent failure of the nuclear-capable intermediate range Agni-II missile’s test firing, saying scientists would soon rectify the glitches.
“It is not absolutely correct. Sometimes tests do fail,” Antony said in reply to a query if the test was a setback for India’s Integrated Guided Missile Development Programme.

“I am absolutely confident that DRDO (Defence Research and Development Organisation) scientists will look into the problem and do away with it,” Antony added.

The first night test of the Agni-II missile Nov 23 turned out to be a failure. The surface-to-surface missile with a range of 2,000-plus km was tested from Wheeler’s Island - a launch site in Orissa’s Bhadrak district, about 200 km from state capital Bhubaneswar, at about 7.50 p.m.

The take-off and first phase separation went off smoothly. However, the second stage booster failed to function as expected. The test was a user trial to give the Indian Army the confidence to fire the missile whenever required.

Earlier this year, a daytime trial of the Agni-II was also a failure.

The Agni-II missile is 20 metres long and can carry a 1,000 kg payload. It weighs 17 tonnes and its range can be increased to 3,000 km by reducing the payload.

The Agni-II version of the Agni-series of missiles was first test fired in 1999.

 

[yashraj]

I Thik DRDO now should Take some Serious Proffectioinal Approch towards work. There is nothing wrong to take outside help for learning some theing. EveMighty American develop their Missile technology form Germans (V2 Rockets). and also Russia. We dont have to envent Wheel so master Technology for Car. Learn it then Impliment it by our own Way...............

This will definetly speed things up and save mony and more important T I M E

 

[sudhir007]

DRDO mission: to promote technology for low-intensity conflicts

He said the DRDO would aim for self reliance but only if it was cost-effective. “We would have to invest Rs 300- Rs 400 crore in critical technologies to enhance our self reliance. Sometimes it is not worth it as it is not cost effective. The first priority of the DRDO is to focus on technologies that have been denied to us,” Saraswat said.

‘Agni II test will be conducted again’

Saraswat said that the Agni II ballistic missile test that failed recently would be conducted again. It was a result of poor manufacture of components. “Certain components were of poor quality and we have already alerted the manufacturers about it. The test will be conducted soon,” he said.

DRDO mission: to promote technology for low-intensity conflicts

 

[Tejas-MkII]

DRDO mission: to promote technology for low-intensity conflictsPost CommentLarger | Smaller Express News Service

Tags : defence, DRDO

The pounds are flying offHow many more?Lets change IndiaSanskrit Festivals

The Defence Research Development Organisation (DRDO) is going to embark on a major mission to promote technologies against low intensity conflicts (LICs), scientific advisor to Ministry of Defence V K Saraswat said on Wednesday.



He said the government had earmarked ten DRDO labs specifically for technologies that have potential in low intensity anti-terror operations.



The term low intensity conflicts is used to describe conflicts that target enemies in specific situations like in counter insurgency operations — without causing harm to the society — unlike in a full blown war.



“A team of 15 to 20 scientists will be working on this aspect. Ten DRDO labs have also been asked to look into technologies that have dual use. We need new technology that can be used for detection, surveillance and mitigation purposes in our fight against low intensity warfare,” he said.



Saraswat was speaking to the media after the inauguration of the seventh international high energy conference and exhibit in Pune.



The DRDO will host an exhibition in the following week where all technologies, developed by various labs which have a potential in anti terror operations, will be show-cased.



Saraswat said at present, DRDO is focussing on leveraging home grown technology for low intensity warfares, but would not shy away from international collaboration on the same.



Stating that the DRDO aims to develop a soldier as a system, Saraswat said the 26/11 defense could have been handled better if those fighting had better weapons. If we can make soldiers or the police a complete system with detection and weapons ability, we would be able to fight low intensity conflicts better, he said.



He said the DRDO would aim for self reliance but only if it was cost-effective. “We would have to invest Rs 300- Rs 400 crore in critical technologies to enhance our self reliance. Sometimes it is not worth it as it is not cost effective. The first priority of the DRDO is to focus on technologies that have been denied to us,” Saraswat said.



‘Agni II test will be conducted again’



Saraswat said that the Agni II ballistic missile test that failed recently would be conducted again. It was a result of poor manufacture of components. “Certain components were of poor quality and we have already alerted the manufacturers about it. The test will be conducted soon,” he said

 

[booo]

It was a result of poor manufacture of components. “Certain components were of poor quality and we have already alerted the manufacturers about it. The test will be conducted soon,” he said.

Interesting... any more details on which component was of poor quality?