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Indian military targets school van 10 kids injured,1 dead

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Not a single general officer was court martial. only one brigadier was sacked for delay in detection in early part of war.


Pakistan army could not even detect world most wanted few miles from main academy height of incompetence.

On the other hand ppp also blood Musharaf and said 3000+ Pakistani soldiers were killed in Kargil which means Pakistani casualties are between 3000-4000.
ppp was never in government and PML N said it after they were thrown from office by musharraf and army. before that he was ok with the army numbers.
and you have still to answer my question regarding brigadier sial and captain imtiaz. and add Major imtiaz to it too.
your army was humiliated by major imtiaz then on media too. and now you are persisting on it too. These are just 3 examples of indian false claims on Pakistan army not accepting dead. how could we accept someone we already have?

16 July 1999 Mehmud Ahmed ISLAMABAD:The Inter-Services Public Relations has nailed the Indian lie about the martyrdom of, defender of an unnamed 18,400 foot peak in the north of Line of Control, and presented him before the news media here on Friday during a briefing at the Foreign Office. Major Aasim, the Indians have claimed time and again, was among the three officers they said had been identified through a letter from his wife with regimental and rank identifications which they said were found on his person. The major was brought to the news briefing by Brigadier Rashid Qureshi, Director General of ISPR who, on return from a visit to the Line of Control, had heard that Aasim had also arrived in the town.
 
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3 children critically injured, they are fighting for life and death, I wish they recover and get well soon.
 
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No one can justify the attack on kids or civilians but what a school bus doing in one of the world's most dangerous areas ...How Pakistani army allow the schools bus to operate in such areas where arty duals are common and mortar exchanges are daily routines , sniper fires are common . I think civilians should not be allowed to enter with in 5 Kms from both India and Pakistan.

Indian govt is making solid bunkers in villages near borders to reduce the civilian casualties
 
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Seems you are finding the figures hard to digest, over 4500 Indian soldiers fell to Pakistani bullets,
Those killed due to so called terrorist attack is a separate figure.

''It also stated that as many as 1,174 army personnel have been killed in instances of terror attacks like the one in Pathankot in January this year. According to the official figures, as many as 7,908 terror instances have occurred since 2001''

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According to an RTI filed by Vadodara-based activist Pankaj Darve in September, the Indian army revealed that over 4,500 soldiers had lost their lives to ceasefire violations along the Line of Control (LoC) since 2001.

The reply to the RTI application, filed on September 22, is dated October 26 and signed by CPIO (Central Public Information Officer).

After the Kargil conflict, 4675 soldiers have died along the LoC due to ceasefire violations by Pakistan.

https://truvine.co/ceasefire-violations-along-loc-since-2001/

The 4500 number doesn't even include the number of nearly 2000 Indians killed without firing a bullet due to pathetic mobilisation. There mobilisation skills are vastly inferior to Pakistan's and add on to the fact that they have a larger army it's a nightmare for them. So in truth, in all, they have lost over 6000 troops. Pakistan's number is miles behind from that.
 
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But your men don't want to fight bhai. Jihadi se jung ladwate hain.

Come and fight. Don't just talk and then wage war through terror.


I believe our men weren't in that school bus, our men are right there at LOC ........... so again what made your men target a school children bus (that too on December 16) instead of our men at LOC?
 
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I believe our men weren't in that school bus, our men are right there at LOC ........... so again what made your men target a school children bus (that too on December 16) instead of our men at LOC?

Good morning bhai. You know I love kids and what my feelings on targeting them are.

But why is your army unwilling to fight? You know when I say this I would have information other that the globosphere. When our men crossed across to hit yours, some of your most elite troops ran. On your own soil.

I know you are a fair man. Think.
 
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Good morning bhai.

Good morning.

You know I love kids and what my feelings on targeting them are.

But why is your army unwilling to fight? You know when I say this I would have information other that the globosphere. When our men crossed across to hit yours, some of your most elite troops ran. On your own soil.

I know you are a fair man. Think.

Suppose your men crossed the borders and did what they claim they did ............... but what is the justification for hitting a school bus? All the while when our men are right there at LOC......... now you don't want me to believe that our men have deserted LOC, so your men still are sitting at their side of LOC and targeting school going children. My younger brother is a soldier buddy with nearly 8 years of his life spent in hard areas fighting the worst of the worst, no amount of you telling me "Our men can't fight" is going to convince me otherwise. Sher Khan was also one of these men by the way if you have forgotten.
 
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Good morning.



Suppose your men crossed the borders and did what they claim they did ............... but what is the justification for hitting a school bus? All the while when our men are right there at LOC......... now you don't want me to believe that our men have deserted LOC, so your men still are sitting at their side of LOC and targeting school going children. My younger brother is a soldier buddy with nearly 8 years of his life spent in hard areas fighting the worst of the worst, no amount of you telling me "Our men can't fight" is going to convince me otherwise. Sher Khan was also one of these men by the way if you have forgotten.

Good to know your brother is a fauji. No one doubts Pakistanis cannot fight. Truth be told, were we a united army, we would have been a formidable force.

My question is simple. We raided you. Killed over 260 Pakistanis. Including 30 odd embedded regulars.

What did you do in response? Send Jihadis to kill men in their sleep and attack servicemen families and womenfolk.

Do you understand now why the Indian fauj is fast losing respect for yours as a professional fighting force?
 
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Good to know your brother is a fauji. No one doubts Pakistanis cannot fight. Truth be told, were we a united army, we would have been a formidable force.

What we would have been together is out of question now I am not that interested in history of this region except for sight seeing of some centuries old architecture.

My question is simple. We raided you. Killed over 260 Pakistanis. Including 30 odd embedded regulars.

Are you referring to surgical strike? You are a smart person you would know better that just resembling it to "Hanuman" does not make it credible enough. However the last COAS did say it openly if you had committed such thing we would have taught you a lesson that your next 7 generations won't forget.


What did you do in response? Send Jihadis to kill men in their sleep and attack servicemen families and womenfolk.

Didn't you do the same, yours didn't even spare school children buddy.


Do you understand now why the Indian fauj is fast losing respect for yours as a professional fighting force?


Again the Ex- COAS had said it publicly that Indian counterparts should be men enough to accept the reality, we didn't expect this from them.

ISLAMABAD: Chief of Army Staff General Raheel Sharif on Wednesday dared Indian military to tell its casualties, saying that Pakistan Army killed 11 Indian troops in return for its seven martyrs.
 
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4500, number includes deaths from all causes(natural causes, accidents, counter insurgency, self causes, illness etc) in all areas.
Actual losses in border firing, are a mere 144.
Pakistani losses are far higher.
I'm just saying what your army is saying... Whether or not an indian on PDF rejects it or accepts it really doesn't make a difference.
 
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The strikes happened. And they shook you guys up bad. The Indian Army has got massively emboldened when it's seen so called crack troops cracking. It now knows that if that's the tip of the spear, then what's behind is going to be even more ..... pathetic.
 
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The strikes happened. And they shook you guys up bad. The Indian Army has got massively emboldened when it's seen so called crack troops cracking. It now knows that if that's the tip of the spear, then what's behind is going to be even more ..... pathetic.
Strikes happened but without any proof, ha ha Only an Indian can lie so blatantly and with confidence too.
 
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