Indian Military Picture Thread

[Lipizzaner_Stallion]

That's actually how the Patka started out! Ie a cheap, interim, solution for Sikh soldiers and it was found to be so useful it became the standard helmet for all troops deployed in CI ops-it's pretty good for what it is.

You know brother ... If you look from a different angle ... Patka looks cooler than other helmets on Indian soldiers (my observation) but its not that effective and not easy to maintain. I wish instead of inducting foreign made helmets we could enhance the Patka with Kevlar material and give it a new look. (Something like headgears that is wore by Russian soldiers.) But you know what is the quality of indigenous product in India (i mean most of them)

 

[Abingdonboy]

EPIC:

 

[jiki]

Ah @jiki mate have you got any more pics/vids of SF or the like? You said you'd be capturing some possibly.

ohh i m extrmly sorry sir i got totaly pissed off in wrtng codes for americans, since last 2 mnths i dont even gtng tym to cm to forum n post , right nw i dont hv any pic or vid of SF, i hav some pics of su30mkis flying over sky of pune frm lohe gaon sqrdn but not of SF kindda thng and above all bloody heat of summer in india it is imposble to roam arnd in day light .

i m telling u sm intresting thngs sir in aeroindia our para cmndos(ARMY) were also der bcoz HEBAL is the HQ of 21SF is jus 5 km away from yalahanka banglore , i took 2 pics of dem also but suddenly they came to me and request me to remove it as dat was a event by IAF so it isn't der in their protocol to giv even a tiny info abt dem in public domain ,so had to do it, and even all of the(name,parachute,balidan)batches were out at dat time but thanks to my jingoism , i picked dem result of dis failed attempt i got to know sm intresting facts of our SF
1- now onwards for evry high end close quater combact mission M4 carbines will be the standard weapon 4 all SF(army) dont know abt the para battln
2-alrady had the 3rd gen head mount nvgs for evry troops in dat kinda mission and above all by 2015 they will have dat 4 tube type nvgs (used by SEAL 6 in OBL mission)
3-at dat they told me dat there is a planing of two mr SFbtln in north east area now its a official news
4-som of da finsas element like werable comps and HF comm sets already in a mode of induction by dem after 3 of dem dissolve away after receiving sm signals in their motorola hand sets really it was da most amazing time for me at dat time after the photo session with garuds

SF pics are very rare hard to collect, for a normal guy like me either u hav to be a strategic jurno like rajeevranjan or u hav to be in vantage pnt like in northen india nahan(HP), jammu kashmir, ladhak,noth east or like in hebal(banglore) but i m still trying now BTW in mnth of july i will have a trip to Ladhk and srinagar will try my best to get sm awsome pics to this forum

 

[Abingdonboy]

ohh i m extrmly sorry sir i got totaly pissed off in wrtng codes for americans, since last 2 mnths i dont even gtng tym to cm to forum n post , right nw i dont hv any pic or vid of SF, i hav some pics of su30mkis flying over sky of pune frm lohe gaon sqrdn but not of SF kindda thng and above all bloody heat of summer in india it is imposble to roam arnd in day light .

i m telling u sm intresting thngs sir in aeroindia our para cmndos(ARMY) were also der bcoz HEBAL is the HQ of 21SF is jus 5 km away from yalahanka banglore , i took 2 pics of dem also but suddenly they came to me and request me to remove it as dat was a event by IAF so it isn't der in their protocol to giv even a tiny info abt dem in public domain ,so had to do it, and even all of the(name,parachute,balidan)batches were out at dat time but thanks to my jingoism , i picked dem result of dis failed attempt i got to know sm intresting facts of our SF
1- now onwards for evry high end close quater combact mission M4 carbines will be the standard weapon 4 all SF(army) dont know abt the para battln
2-alrady had the 3rd gen head mount nvgs for evry troops in dat kinda mission and above all by 2015 they will have dat 4 tube type nvgs (used by SEAL 6 in OBL mission)
3-at dat they told me dat there is a planing of two mr SFbtln in north east area now its a official news
4-som of da finsas element like werable comps and HF comm sets already in a mode of induction by dem after 3 of dem dissolve away after receiving sm signals in their motorola hand sets really it was da most amazing time for me at dat time after the photo session with garuds

SF pics are very rare hard to collect, for a normal guy like me either u hav to be a strategic jurno like rajeevranjan or u hav to be in vantage pnt like in northen india nahan(HP), jammu kashmir, ladhak,noth east or like in hebal(banglore) but i m still trying now BTW in mnth of july i will have a trip to Ladhk and srinagar will try my best to get sm awsome pics to this forum

Dude- THANK YOU!! Sooo much good info!! Did they tell you all this? And were they at Aero India on guard duty ie were they armed or were they there just as visitors?



Dude if you want send me an email at abingdonboy1@gmail.com so we have a point of contact as it'd be good to have a direct line to you. If you'd like i've also got some cool stories that I just got off my uncle who has just retiered from the PARAs (Airborne not SF) and we could swap info!

I'm stunned the PARA (SF) are getting these so soon:

I had heard somthing like this but didn't know it was confirmed!

 

[Abingdonboy]

ohh i m extrmly sorry sir i got totaly pissed off in wrtng codes for americans, since last 2 mnths i dont even gtng tym to cm to forum n post , right nw i dont hv any pic or vid of SF, i hav some pics of su30mkis flying over sky of pune frm lohe gaon sqrdn but not of SF kindda thng and above all bloody heat of summer in india it is imposble to roam arnd in day light .

i m telling u sm intresting thngs sir in aeroindia our para cmndos(ARMY) were also der bcoz HEBAL is the HQ of 21SF is jus 5 km away from yalahanka banglore , i took 2 pics of dem also but suddenly they came to me and request me to remove it as dat was a event by IAF so it isn't der in their protocol to giv even a tiny info abt dem in public domain ,so had to do it, and even all of the(name,parachute,balidan)batches were out at dat time but thanks to my jingoism , i picked dem result of dis failed attempt i got to know sm intresting facts of our SF
1- now onwards for evry high end close quater combact mission M4 carbines will be the standard weapon 4 all SF(army) dont know abt the para battln
2-alrady had the 3rd gen head mount nvgs for evry troops in dat kinda mission and above all by 2015 they will have dat 4 tube type nvgs (used by SEAL 6 in OBL mission)
3-at dat they told me dat there is a planing of two mr SFbtln in north east area now its a official news
4-som of da finsas element like werable comps and HF comm sets already in a mode of induction by dem after 3 of dem dissolve away after receiving sm signals in their motorola hand sets really it was da most amazing time for me at dat time after the photo session with garuds

SF pics are very rare hard to collect, for a normal guy like me either u hav to be a strategic jurno like rajeevranjan or u hav to be in vantage pnt like in northen india nahan(HP), jammu kashmir, ladhak,noth east or like in hebal(banglore) but i m still trying now BTW in mnth of july i will have a trip to Ladhk and srinagar will try my best to get sm awsome pics to this forum

@Sergi @Koovie @COLDHEARTED AVIATOR @Water Car Engineer I think you guys will appreciate the above info!

 

[Sergi]

@Sergi @Koovie @COLDHEARTED AVIATOR @Water Car Engineer I think you guys will appreciate the above info!

1. M4A - don't think so. Let's wait for assault rifle tender to open then we will have some info on SF standard AR. I personally don't think anyone will switch to M-4A from TAR

2. Don't know about that particular NVGs but we are already developing NVGS in house which failed to complete desired standard. And now we may buy from abroad. But that was for IA for SF I think they will get what they want.

3. SF battalions ??? Or mountain stick corps ??? AFAIK Different things.

4. Probably


I had nearly same experience. But kinda different way. I too live near Pune. And at one defence exibition were arms and ammos were displayed for the common public. And our president ( now ex-president ) were supposed to visit that day. I see some PARA commandos near NOT ALLOWED door and couldn't resist the click. The gentlemen came near to me and "polity" asked me if I gona delect the photos or he have to make to me do that. I chose first option last thing I need was my *** kicked there.

If you think the guard on duty - specially when hey are form SF talk to you nicely - sorry I have my reservations. They don't give @hit when on duty.
And evenif somebody talk to you I don't think a SF commando might have this much info with him. Doesn't "need to know basic info" apply here ???

 

[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

Is that a camelbak?(black)

 

[nair]

. And our president ( now ex-president ) were supposed to visit that day. I see some PARA commandos near NOT ALLOWED door and couldn't resist the click. The gentlemen came near to me and "polity" asked me if I gona delect the photos or he have to make to me do that. I chose first option last thing I need was my *** kicked there.

I remember doing something similar. I did click a pic of a turkish commando in istanbul.....But the difference was he didnt ask anything.... His stare was enough to have the pic deleted... I was like.....

 

[Abingdonboy]

1. M4A - don't think so. Let's wait for assault rifle tender to open then we will have some info on SF standard AR. I personally don't think anyone will switch to M-4A from TAR

Like @jiki said- the M4 will be used for CQB but won't replace the Tavor as the SF's main assault rifle. Which tender are you reffering to? The ongoing foreign AR tender is for the regular IA and not the SF mate.It is believable the SFs will use the M4 over the TAR-21 in certain specific circumstances- the M4 has a collapsible stock and is lighter than a TAR-21 so is a better rifle to para-jump with and possibly in CQB. No doubt the TAR-21 is the better rifle over all but for certain missions it makes sense to utilize specilised equipment ie the M4.

3. SF battalions ??? Or mountain stick corps ??? AFAIK Different things.

Mate check it out:

Special Operations: More Indian Operators To Face China

I had nearly same experience. But kinda different way. I too live near Pune. And at one defence exibition were arms and ammos were displayed for the common public. And our president ( now ex-president ) were supposed to visit that day. I see some PARA commandos near NOT ALLOWED door and couldn't resist the click. The gentlemen came near to me and "polity" asked me if I gona delect the photos or he have to make to me do that. I chose first option last thing I need was my *** kicked there.

If you think the guard on duty - specially when hey are form SF talk to you nicely - sorry I have my reservations. They don't give @hit when on duty.
And evenif somebody talk to you I don't think a SF commando might have this much info with him. Doesn't "need to know basic info" apply here ???

Lol- nice anecdote!

 

[Sergi]

Like @jiki said- the M4 will be used for CQB but won't replace the Tavor as the SF's main assault rifle. Which tender are you reffering to? The ongoing foreign AR tender is for the regular IA and not the SF mate.It is believable the SFs will use the M4 over the TAR-21 in certain specific circumstances- the M4 has a collapsible stock and is lighter than a TAR-21 so is a better rifle to para-jump with and possibly in CQB. No doubt the TAR-21 is the better rifle over all but for certain missions it makes sense to utilize specilised equipment ie the M4.

M4A news was in media a year ago. If you remember the TOI gem under title "The rifle that killed OBL will replace outdated TAR from Indian SF" and that talk faded with time.

Yes I was talking about IA AR tender for regulars. 1 of 4 will be selected which can also be available for SF so they will buy different for sure.

I doubt our SF will choose M4. Number will be low so price and TOT won't be an issue here. I would like H&K or SCAR
Still let's wait and see. But I will always hate M-4

Mate check it out:

Special Operations: More Indian Operators To Face China

From the article

The two new battalions will be parachute battalions (not special forces, at least not immediately).

And we still don't know what has been decided about the fate of "unified command" so most probably 2 offensive mountain strick corps and those two will remain PARAs only.

 

[jiki]

I had nearly same experience. But kinda different way. I too live near Pune. And at one defence exibition were arms and ammos were displayed for the common public. And our president ( now ex-president ) were supposed to visit that day. I see some PARA commandos near NOT ALLOWED door and couldn't resist the click. The gentlemen came near to me and "polity" asked me if I gona delect the photos or he have to make to me do that. I chose first option last thing I need was my *** kicked there.

If you think the guard on duty - specially when hey are form SF talk to you nicely - sorry I have my reservations. They don't give @hit when on duty.
And evenif somebody talk to you I don't think a SF commando might have this much info with him. Doesn't "need to know basic info" apply here ???

hahaha
the guy with whom i confronted was seems to be som ranking persnl if not a offcr bcoz communication was awsome and 3 of nrmal comandos taking orders frm him but biliv me da guy really frndly to me while talking abt dis stuff but vry tough regarding da pics, adding to it he asked me abt my whr n aht abts and he jus taken a back dat i got to know they r frm army SF and asked me "how did you know dat we r paras"

thanks to my jurno typ convincing style. hahaha.....hey dont mind i m jus kiddding............

 

[Sergi]

hahaha
the guy with whom i confronted was seems to be som ranking persnl if not a offcr bcoz communication was awsome and 3 of nrmal comandos taking orders frm him but biliv me da guy really frndly to me while talking abt dis stuff but vry tough regarding da pics, adding to it he asked me abt my whr n aht abts and he jus taken a back dat i got to know they r frm army SF and asked me "how did you know dat we r paras"

thanks to my jurno typ convincing style. hahaha.....hey dont mind i m jus kiddding............

Feel yourself lucky people generally don't get anything from them expect @ss-kicking

 

[jiki]

M4A news was in media a year ago. If you remember the TOI gem under title "The rifle that killed OBL will replace outdated TAR from Indian SF" and that talk faded with time.

Yes I was talking about IA AR tender for regulars. 1 of 4 will be selected which can also be available for SF so they will buy different for sure.

I doubt our SF will choose M4. Number will be low so price and TOT won't be an issue here. I would like H&K or SCAR
Still let's wait and see. But I will always hate M-4

like @Abingdonboy i want to explain u da same thng may m4 will be only fr special mission like rum interventions and TAR may be for mass infantry type field attack i don no ........
but regarding dat NVGS i do biliv dat equipment procurement for SF always coms frm the special financial power of army chief and DM so dats why those are termed as special equipment and directly bought frm OEMs so dats why de got wht they want
not sure abt it correct me if i m wrong......

 

[kbd-raaf]

@jiki thanks for all the information but if you could please write in more understandable English, that'd be great!

 

[Abingdonboy]

M4A news was in media a year ago. If you remember the TOI gem under title "The rifle that killed OBL will replace outdated TAR from Indian SF" and that talk faded with time.

Yes I was talking about IA AR tender for regulars. 1 of 4 will be selected which can also be available for SF so they will buy different for sure.

I doubt our SF will choose M4. Number will be low so price and TOT won't be an issue here. I would like H&K or SCAR
Still let's wait and see. But I will always hate M-4


From the article


And we still don't know what has been decided about the fate of "unified command" so most probably 2 offensive mountain strick corps and those two will remain PARAs only.

Mate, wrt the M4 news I am not convinced it is the basic M4A1/2 the PARA (SF) Will be getting as there are many variants and rifles based on the M4's basic design. As such the news of the SF getting M4s doesn't rule out Hk-416s (the rifle that actually DID kill OBL!) or a Colt upgraded M4.

Like I said, I just don't see the SFs getting the bog-standard M4 it would be pointless. The fact is they've had the M4 for quite some time now so its nothing special that they are getting a few more bit getting one of its variants- THAT'S news!


I agree- I'd love to see somthing like the FN-SCAR Or HK-416 in SF service but they have so many weapons already in service (Micro Uzi, Tavor,M-4, AK(and its variants), INSAS etc etc) that I doubt there is any need or point in adding yet another weapon to their arsenal.


Also like I said the M-4 in PARA (SF) service will not be their default/standard Assualt rifle-that will be the Tavor for the foreseeable future, but it will be used for certain specialised tasks where it is just the best tool for the job. The SFs by nature are highly specialised and it's no surprise they have specialised equipment for specific tasks, is it? The M4 isn't a bad weapon and for what the PARA (SF) want them to do it is more than adequate.



Wrt this foreign rifle purchase (which I pray the ARX-160 wins) this categorically will not be for the SFs but for certain IA units such as RR, Ghataks, airborne units (excluding the PARA (SF) and PARA (Airborne) ie airborne infantry, combat engineers, medics,signals etc etc and certain infantry units who are foreward deployed ie in JK, NE, along the LAC and LOC.


Like I said, my uncle who has just retired was in the PARA (Airborne) and he tells me the TAVOR-21 has been their standard-issue assult rifle for many years now and they also have access to a few M-4s for certain guys in their Btn/fire team. He knows a little about this foreign rifle purchase as he has spoken to a few IA (regular) guys who were a part of the trails team and he tells me that there is very little likelihood this foreign AR will find its way to the PARAs (Airborne or SF) as there simply isn't a need for it. But things can change so let's wait and see.
@jiki can you answer the below questions mate:

were the PARA (SF) at Aero India on guard duty ie were they armed or were they there just as visitors?



Dude if you want send me an email at abingdonboy1@gmail.com so we have a point of contact as it'd be good to have a direct line to you. If you'd like i've also got some cool stories that I just got off my uncle who has just retiered from the PARAs (Airborne not SF) and we could swap info!