Indian military build-up: Pakistan shares concern with US

[Rajaraja Chola]

We have over 1 trillion dollar economy. We can spend was we want for our security. You develop your economy and buy your stuff.

Welcome back
Now grab a popcorn

 

[bloo]

You're wining diplomatically not because u r smart.. .. just because our leaders are assholes!

Oh no, our leaders are also assholes but they are also smart.

 

[Developereo]

We are pretty sure about that sir, but the question is how much success Pakistan will get???

Even if Pakistan fails to convince the Americans, it won't be for lack of trying.

One must do what one must do.

 

[kurup]

What is happening in that accompanying picture?

What th F is going on here? That solidier looks like he has broken his neck.

The supposed attacker being shot down .

 

[Abingdonboy]

Okay so what do they want their big daddy to do? Do they not understand India's defence expending is 100% funded by its OWN revenues- not aid. So are the Pakistanis really asking the US to turn down business for them? If they do India has many other friends who will be more than willing to take India's billions.

Waste of a thread.

 

[mirage2K]

Nawaz not so sharif...is a real dehati aurat

 

[faithfulguy]

India need to stop been so aggressive against Pakistan and focus on developing its shambled economy instead. India has more people under poverty than sub Saharan Africa. For every weapon system that India buy, many more kids die of malnutrition. India also need to reign in on crime. Why does India need the Brits to take care of the Thugees in history? And now, gangs like Thugees of the past are plaguing India again. Maybe you should invite in the British, I mean, Americans this time, to take care of the internal security threats.

 

[vicky sen]

India need to stop been so aggressive against Pakistan and focus on developing its shambled economy instead. India has more people under poverty than sub Saharan Africa. For every weapon system that India buy, many more kids die of malnutrition. India also need to reign in on crime. Why does India need the Brits to take care of the Thugees in history? And now, gangs like Thugees of the past are plaguing India again. Maybe you should invite in the British, I mean, Americans this time, to take care of the internal security threats.

We do not need your masters to tackle our internal security.

 

[Chanakya's_Chant]

India need to stop been so aggressive against Pakistan and focus on developing its shambled economy instead. India has more people under poverty than sub Saharan Africa. For every weapon system that India buy, many more kids die of malnutrition. India also need to reign in on crime. Why does India need the Brits to take care of the Thugees in history? And now, gangs like Thugees of the past are plaguing India again. Maybe you should invite in the British, I mean, Americans this time, to take care of the internal security threats.

We are not Taiwan

 

[Slayer786]

why doesn't india try to come and get hafiz saeed from lahore lol watch what happens then lmfao

Well they did come into Pakistan and took away Dawood Ibrahim. Well atleast they did that in the movie just released called D-Day.
Funny movie. Very hilarious. Everyone should watch it. It will lighten the mood.

Pakistan Has Quality Army, India Has Quantity, Say Experts
London (AFP) May 22, 2002

As the crisis over Kashmir deepens, British military experts say that while India's armed forces would enjoy a numerical superiority if a war broke out, Pakistan's army is of higher quality.
Comments by Indian Prime Minister Atal Behari Vajpayee Wednesday that "the time has come for a decisive fight" further fuelled fears of an all-out war with nuclear rival Pakistan over the disputed Kashmir region.

In any long-lasting conflict, India would have the advantage of a stronger economy and a population of over one billion compared to Pakistan's of about 142 million. It would thus be able to mobilise more soldiers.

But if a conflict was of short duration, these assets would not necessarily enter into the equation, according to William Hopkinson, of the London-based Royal Institute of International Affairs (RIIA).

"The quality of some of the Pakistani troops is probably better on average than that of the Indians," he told AFP.

"If the worst happens and a war starts, the pressures from all sides to stop it soon would be obviously enormous, so India's theoretical long-term advantage might not come into play."

According to the London-based International Institute for Strategic Studies, India has 1,303,000 people in its armed forces, plus 535,000 reservists.

Pakistan, meanwhile, has about 612,000 troops and 513,000 reservists.

India is believed to have about 60 nuclear warheads compared with Pakistans 25, Britain's Times reported.

According to British government sources quoted by the paper Wednesday, the Pakistanis are considered better troops, and could beat off an initial Indian offensive.

But the Indians could then use their superiority in conventional forces to overwhelm the Pakistanis.

In one doomsday scenario which, according to The Times, has been considered by British ministers, Islamabad could then use its weapon of last resort: a nuclear device.

India would survive the strike and hit back with its own atomic weapons, according to the scenario.

The use of nuclear weapons in a war for the first time since the Americans dropped such bombs on the Japanese cities of Hiroshima and Nagasaki in 1945, is a threat that experts are not dismissing.

"Yes, it is possible," said Hopkinson. "There could certainly be a risk if one side is going down in conventional struggle to use a nuclear weapon.

"Whether their doctrine would be to use it tactically or to make a strike at the enemy's capital, I don't know.

"I would have thought that the likelihood would be a tactical use but again, it depends where the forces are... you don't want to use something (like that) on your own territory unless you can't avoid it."

Hopkinson added: "If Pakistan is faced with defeat but the defeat were happening on its own territory or its part of Kashmir, it might well strike for something a bit further back ... it could be forces massed behind the first echelon."

Source: All rights reserved. � 2002 Agence France-Presse.

This was 2002. Now we are more better trained and have more nuclear weapons and missiles.
So lets have a go at it.

Bohot hoga ya. Ab to yeh to hum ya tum raho gay.

Aray bhai bohot baat hogi. Just come we are waiting for you............

 

[SrNair]

how is india winning? lmfao
india funding terrorists to kill harmless children and women isn't called winning, its called cowards who can't fight like men.
cowards who have a broken home and want to destroy their neighbor who kashmiris clearly want to be with lol.

Dont cry now .It is yours action and deeds make us like this.Too decisive and ruthless.When we got independence in 1947 ,we preferred as to a non violent based country.But soon after that we realise world will not give that same reciprocation and only power and strength will talk.First Pakistan then china ,portugese,pakistan again,Pak with US and west ,then again Pakistan action.We fought 5 war after independence and a lot of skirmishes that within 65 years look cool ahh.No one talk about negotiations.
So when non violent NAM method fail in 1948 .We talk to the world with power and point of strength.And it gave us necessary outcome .so we still follow that same method.unbiased with only goal of national power ,national security and strategic influence.

Talk about terrorists .as you sow so shall you reap.I dont specify any country .Be it India,Pakistan ,US,Russia ,China etc any country .if any country try to support other terrorists
then you will get same reward.We Indians and GoI dont support terrorists TTP and will not support any other terrorists again.We once did.LTTE and we got what we want .We lost our PM life and valuable soldiers life.
US got 9/11.Pakistan case,, well you know still a war going in Pakistan.Russia got chechen and also for China.

 

[Shardul.....the lion]

aag lagane wale khud aag se dar gaye...

 

[SrNair]

The americans are concerned about Pakistani nuclear build up etc etc etc

To legitimise Pakistan's build up, Pakistan has to give a reason,,

India's build up is that reason, because neither the yanks or the europeans or anyone can say anything to Pakistan about why we are expanding our nuclear arsenal or aquiring weapons or looking for weapons


The americans being concerned about Pakistan's nuclear expansion may even be willing to sell, give or ignore Pakistani puchases or expansion to allay Pakistani fear's



It is indeed true that India has had the money to waste, spend and build up its forces especially after the last 10 years but Pakistan has always maintained an effective deterrant

We are 4 times smaller in land mass 6-7 times smaller in population yet being so much smaller india has been unable to defeat Pakistan, even after the Parliament attack and Mumbai india did the big gorilla act only to back away when it saw Pakistan wasent flinching


Dont be idiots, Pakistan is simply legitimising to the americans why we are expanding our nuclear arsenal and looking for military hardwear

so what ?Who talk about nukes?.Just one fact.India maintained its nukes at same level.We just dont increase it.Think about it why?Instead we increase our conventional military.
Some raw advantage we got when we increase our military.More youths will selected in to Armed forces .so they get jobs.
Now for that we increase our weapon systems i.e is all types.Large number will be sourced from domestic industry like in the case of Navy.So an industry will growing rapidly. Many skilled people get jobs.If it is export then foreign reserve save.

Now when we import weapons from world market .may expensive but we got good allies and friends .plus so much technology.So in over all when we increase Conventional military we got some advantages.
Concern about nukes.We only concentrated in accuracy of delivery systems and perfect of present warheads.

Increasing nukes is a real waste of money.because no productivity.Dont give additional job opportunties.Develop cost a lot of money even a small yield weapons cost crores of rupees.Maintenance cause another himalayan cost.Cause considerable bleeding to economy.This same reason China dont have nukes like US.Instead they invested hypersonic systems and conventional.This also what India doing.within fire a single shot India gaive a lot of bleeding to Pakistan and Pakistan resorted to increase in nuke system
Just think about it

 

[Vinod2070]

Sir you laugh way too much! kya GAM hai jis ko chhupa rahe ho?

It is the result of a lifetime of hatred.

They have to cling to it it despite everything.

 

[Vinod2070]

India need to stop been so aggressive against Pakistan and focus on developing its shambled economy instead. India has more people under poverty than sub Saharan Africa. For every weapon system that India buy, many more kids die of malnutrition. India also need to reign in on crime. Why does India need the Brits to take care of the Thugees in history? And now, gangs like Thugees of the past are plaguing India again. Maybe you should invite in the British, I mean, Americans this time, to take care of the internal security threats.

Coming from a cheap low quality sweatshop country that is turning another into a sweatshop now?

All one can say is that the maximum number of people killed from starvation since WW-2 have been you Hans. And that when you shameless people were exporting foodgrains while millions of you were dying of hunger!

We do not need your masters to tackle our internal security.

Well, but he has to remain loyal to his masters. They saved his ilk from the Japanese in WW-2 and are saving them today. Else they will be run over in less than one day.

And some of them are going there to repay the debts, running from their own cheap little low quality sweatshop.