Indian Media Discloses Dismal Performance of SU-30MKI Fighters During Kashmir Skirmish

[GumNaam]

You did him raw brother, just brutal.

that's why he's silent. frankly I'm disappointed, I was just getting warmed up!

 

[Dac O Dac]

Where is the evidence for your 5 Amram dodging Su-30? Do you guys even think for 1 second before Posting crap? If Su-30 dodge 5 missiles where they went?

No, it's crystal clear : one said F16 fired their AMRAAM at a 45km range. The no escape range of C model is, at best, 25km. At 45km the kinetic energy remaining is small. Enough to hit a liner or tanker, but never to hit a fighter if its electronic system gave it the information of a firing.

 

[White and Green with M/S]

No, it's crystal clear : one said F16 fired their AMRAAM at a 45km range. The no escape range of C model is, at best, 25km. At 45km the kinetic energy remaining is small. Enough to hit a liner or tanker, but never to hit a fighter if its electronic system gave it the information of a firing.

don't bring conspiracy theories with no base, provide the source of you claims that Amraam fires at 45 km range and its not only about NEZ no escape zone but other factor can also be considered like F-pole range and Altitude of target, your altitude etc etc,, if you're at high altitude no escape zone automatically increases because less drag youfalse flag indian

 

[The Eagle]

A friend of mine, @BonPlan, was banned for trying not to speak in the pak way...
Is it your sole way of answering ?

Do you think one can hide it all? Whatever the matter you are trying to dig up, is already solved by many of international sources. I can tell you that from far & very far as how you are trying hard to make a comeback.

 

[notorious_eagle]

From PAF side 24 aircrafts along with Air defence n/w and AWACS concentrated on a single point at LoC, on Indian side 2 Su 30 MKIs were airborne on a routine patrol. Still you could not do any thing on that day. This incident happened days after India raided Balakot. India acted responsibly in this regard.

Thanks for highlighting the incompetence on the IAF side. The IAF possesses a very potent radar package, it should have immediately picked up concentration of PAF assets on that specific sector and launched the appropriate response. Having a force twice the size of PAF and not being able to mobilize in time is your incompetence, not your enemies.

If we could not do anything, how did PAF manage to break past IAF's defenses and launch an airstrike next to an IA Brigade Command? Or are we just ignoring facts out of blind patriotism? Listen, everyone has bad days. I get it, you're embarrassed, a country ten times smaller your size was able to humiliate you so i get it that you're embarrassed. But everyone has bad days. Its fine.

As said earlier Su 30 MKI's dodged more than 5 AMRAAMS on that day, when they are preparing to counter attack every thing went cold after the chase from Indian MIGs.
the note here is F16's are running towards PAF bases after failed AMRAAMS and ammunition which should have hit the targets. On that day IAF did not engage with full force, one of the reason is IAF is mobilizing the PAF went cold.

The IAF only showed the wreckage of one AMRAAM, so your theory of firing 5 AMRAAM's does not hold any mettle. Once again you're highlighting the incompetence of your own Airforce that it had no firing soution towards PAF. That's an utter shame considering the IAF's defense budget is almost 10X that of the PAF. Its time for some introspection.

If flying 24/7 CAPS across the LOC by PAF is the equivalent of going cold, i don't know how i can reason with you son. I understand your pain, you have been brainwashed since the last 20 years that IAF will absolutely decimate the PAF. That is clearly not the case and you have been given a rude awakening, so i understand your pain and sympathize.

I gave my observations, I believe in IAF evidence of Radar signatures rather than the flip flops of DGISPR and the pakistani propaganda which denied a fighter aircraft was shot down in 1971 srinagar air raid on IAF base only to take 180 deg uturn and accept the loses.

I can make better pictures on Microsoft Paint then what the IAF produced. And lets not talk about the flip flop because the IAF was initially not admitting that it had a case of friendly fire with the chopper, only admitting it later on.

So far all the evidence you have produced has been dismissed and largely laughed at for the shooting down of F16's. I don't want to talk about history but in 1971 the IAF claimed that it had shot down Mirage III's only for the PAF to line them up in Sargodha.

Pakistani establishment went into panic mode, because they know their misadventure did not have the impacts they have desired and IAF counter punched and IAF have right to retaliate.

That's just pathetic empty saber rattling on your end. 'Actions speak louder then words'.

PAF went cold before IAF started counter offensive.

Again, you're just highlighting the incompetence of your own Air Force that you need the other side to be hot to start a counter offensive. I guess Azerbaijan should have just pulled back on its end because Armenia was cold before the commencement of hostilities. PAF was flying CAPS 24/7 across the LOC, if that is cold as per your dictionary then i don't know what to say.

 

[Deltadart]

@The Eagle , So much bandwidth was wasted because of these two indiots. There is no reasoning with them. I guess for the future, any indian found to be peddling the false f16 shoot down theories should be booted out of here, or close such threads before they waste time and bandwidth here.

 

[Hayreddin]

PAF went cold before IAF started counter offensive

And where did IAF started "counter offensive" ... in parallel universe ???
Post 27 feb IAF was no where near border

 

[GumNaam]

China has withdrawn completely and today indicated discussions on pre April 2020 status quo are on.

Sure IOK situation is on your favor bro....

haan bhui chootarr, if iiok is a garden of roses or if your yindian yarmy is winning against the militants then why clamp down on your own the media? too ashamed of sharing your true casualties?

 

[Daghalodi]

China has withdrawn completely and today indicated discussions on pre April 2020 status quo are on.

Sure IOK situation is on your favor bro....

China has not withdrawn completely nor has it indicated for pre April 2020 status Quo.

Its Indians that are begging for a Pre April 2020 Status Quo in discussions with China.

If China Refuses, there is Nothing Indians can do.

 

[PradoTLC]

All I read is excuses.

OutNumbered,
OutGunned,
Taken by Surprise
Missiles reach only 70km
Forced to Retreat
Evading AMRAAMS
Pushed Back by F16's
Didnt want to lose Su30mki's
Rafales Rafales Rafales

Please add ISI too....

 

[PradoTLC]

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Indian Media Discloses Dismal Performance of Su-30MKI Fighters During Kashmir Skirmish

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So let me understand...indians now admit

1) Afraid to lose Su30 ..so what was abi Landon doing ? .. was he cannon fodder?



but wait ...

what were all those missiles dodging patches IAF were handing out those key board warriors for .? I thought they knew how to dodge PAF missiles ?..

2) surprised by PAF.?...why ? I thought Indians know what they are doing .?

hence

IAF = Indians afraid of flying

IAF = incompetent airforce

 

[PradoTLC]

From PAF side 24 aircrafts along with Air defence n/w and AWACS concentrated on a single point at LoC, on Indian side 2 Su 30 MKIs were airborne on a routine patrol. Still you could not do any thing on that day. This incident happened days after India raided Balakot. India acted responsibly in this regard.




As said earlier Su 30 MKI's dodged more than 5 AMRAAMS on that day, when they are preparing to counter attack every thing went cold after the chase from Indian MIGs.
the note here is F16's are running towards PAF bases after failed AMRAAMS and ammunition which should have hit the targets. On that day IAF did not engage with full force, one of the reason is IAF is mobilizing the PAF went cold.



I gave my observations, I believe in IAF evidence of Radar signatures rather than the flip flops of DGISPR and the pakistani propaganda which denied a fighter aircraft was shot down in 1971 srinagar air raid on IAF base only to take 180 deg uturn and accept the loses.



Pakistani establishment went into panic mode, because they know their misadventure did not have the impacts they have desired and IAF counter punched and IAF have right to retaliate.

The helicopter incident is acknowledged and those martyred have given last rights as per protocol. Mistakes do happen.


PAF went cold before IAF started counter offensive.

Have to give it to the Indians...

despite the incompetent performance both from civilian and military leadership they are defending it like a mad dog... throwing what ever hair brain logic they can find.

 

[krash]

b) So IAF asked Sukhoi not to stay out of their range and away from all battle areas

Maybe the IAF should move its SU-30s to the Andaman Islands. That'll show the PAF.

The decision was to not create a military situation in Kashmir because when Art 370 was getting scrapped we didn't want Pak to get any spotlight. The last thing we wanted was world media saying 'situation tense- hughe military situation' when we scrap it.

A day after trying to bomb a location in Pakistan?

you mean these dudes who are ready to forget Article 370 scrapping for buying sugar...dropped bombs....nice... send me whatever you're smoking. IK knows what it will do to him. It's one thing to sit and talk smack but he and Bajwa know what an actual bombing will result in.

Might want to tell that to the poor Air Vice Marshal as well.

 

[Arsalan345]

Seriously they(indians) hate us. i have seen many senior indian members who visit this forum daily as a guest. they use burnol on daily basis. some show hate on their forums. we are here to burn them hahaha. su-30 is a big big big jet with mighty rcs haha.

 

[Cash GK]

I don't know what you were fighting for but we were fighitng for Kashmir.

Then you had tea and lost one hali n jet open day lite infront of whol world who was watching on their tvs.is this not enough prof of poor planning n cowardness..bro what kind of shit you smoke .. dont embarrasse yourself bro..n what ever weapons were used they were there to use...if you object on weapon then it is other level of Embarrassment..so don't make yourself fool