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[padamchen]

Please don't bring irrelevant topic to divert from real topic.
Stick to the topic and answer the question which you're having hard time to respond to for obvious reason

I have no interest in indulging in a debate with a person who indulges in threats when the rebuttals prove uncomfortable to him and his stand.

Continue having a nice day.

 

[T-72M1]

It's too common.

Which is why pundits won't go back.

And corporates won't risk it.

The Kashmiris frankly deserve the squalor they live in.

Take your eye away from the nature's beauty and see their homes and surroundings ....

sad situation, the people there will be so much better off if they reject violent jihad but it's been on an upswing these past few years.

ISIS' rise to power in the middle east emboldened jihad minded idiots everywhere.

 

[salarsikander]

I have no interest in indulging in a debate with a person who indulges in threats when the rebuttals prove uncomfortable to him and his stand.

Continue having a nice day.

I take your non response as an acceptance that you cannot continue to justify the policies of Indian successive govt in rehabilitating Kashmir. A deliberate policy aimed in keeping the region marginalised.

For which you have to take assistance irrelevant topic to provoke the member to digress from the real issue and avoid it. The tactic has clearly failed.

 

[padamchen]

I take your non response as an acceptance that you cannot continue to justify the policies of Indian successive govt in rehabilitating Kashmir. A deliberate policy aimed in keeping the region marginalised.

For which you have to take assistance irrelevant topic to provoke the member to digress from the real issue and avoid it. The tactic has clearly failed.

You may keep talking to yourself sir.

The advantage of a soliloquy is that you can set the agenda, say what you want, and everyone listening agrees with you.

Hope you are having a nice day.

 

[salarsikander]

You may keep taking to yourself sir.

The advantage of a soliloquy is that you can set the agenda, say what you want, and everyone listening agrees with you.

Hope you are having a nice day.

As expected no response, just cheap diversion tactic which failed miserably.

I see so much of money goes to Kashmir region, but it vanishes, no trace of funds and this has been the case for past few years. Wonder where all that funds go

 

[T-72M1]

You are who ? Like is aid your word and Indian, who are supporting the complete annihilation of Kashmiri's carries no weight. So next time bring something which can be verified.

??? can't make any sense of that part but I think I got your gist.

are you doubting my little story ? 100% truth there, no lies, it's the most common thing ever, nothing spectacular in that incident.

the jihadis in Kashmir do not want development, they fear it.

and I'm not advocating the "complete annihilation of Kashmiris" LOL

just those who become jihadis.

 

[padamchen]

As expected no response, just cheap diversion tactic which failed miserably.

I see so much of money goes to Kashmir region, but it vanishes, no trace of funds and this has been the case for past few years. Wonder where all that funds go

Sir I see what you are doing.

Indulging you any longer will just mean that the circling eagle will swoop in.

Good day.

 

[salarsikander]

Sir I see what you are doing.

Indulging you any longer will just mean that the circling eagle will swoop in.

Good day.

Ok I get it. You have nothing to add on this, since you're well aware that there is literally nothing you can add to the current, other than your inherent hate for Kashmiri's

??? can't make any sense of that part but I think I got your gist.

are you doubting my little story ? 100% truth there, no lies, it's the most common thing ever, nothing spectacular in that incident.

the jihadis in Kashmir do not want development, they fear it.

and I'm not advocating the "complete annihilation of Kashmiris" LOL

just those who become jihadis.

Off why wouldn't I doubt your silly story. Why should I take your word?
As I said if you want to make a claim, post something from verifiable sources

 

[padamchen]

@salarsikander Bhai

Fir a sensible Pakistani who is a moderate and talks a lot of sense, you're having a bad day today.

Simple fact is you threatened. That is the sign of a guy who is on very shaky footing in a debate.

See I get you when you feel justly peeved at expats mouthing off.

But here, it is my considered opinion that you are way out of your depth.

 

[salarsikander]

@salarsikander Bhai

Fir a sensible Pakistani who is a moderate and talks a lot of sense, you're having a bad day today.

Simple fact is you threatened. That is the sign of a guy who is on very shaky footing in a debate.

See I get you when you feel justly peeved at expats mouthing off.

But here, it is my considered opinion that you are way out of your depth.

I did not threaten rather warned. It was quite obvious that you were having hard time answering the question posed. Why would Kashmir revolt against India. What has india done to cause it? What policies other than harsh security policies have india consider for Kashmir? What sort of development if any had ever taken place in Kashmir in the last 70 years to address the grievance. The HDI is alarmingly low. Knowing that more people will join the revolt, why not tangible steps were taken to address the problem. Why every successive Indian govt became blind in Kashmir issue?

 

[padamchen]

I did not threaten rather warned. It was quite obvious that you were having hard time answering the question posed. Why would Kashmir revolt against India. What has india done to cause it? What policies other than harsh security policies have india consider for Kashmir? What sort of development if any had ever taken place in Kashmir in the last 70 years to address the grievance. The HDI is alarmingly low. Knowing that more people will join the revolt, why not tangible steps were taken to address the problem. Why every successive Indian govt became blind in Kashmir issue?

Sadly you will have to seek these answers elsewhere

Or

Keep asking these from yourself

Or

You could admit you were wrong to threaten (no sorry shorry needed) and we could continue.

Your choice.

Please remember though. When you debate with me, there are no holy cows or unholy pigs.

There is no no-go area. If you are up to that intellectually, come ....

 

[salarsikander]

Sadly you will have to seek these answers elsewhere

Or

Keep asking these from yourself

Or

You could admit you were wrong to threaten (no sorry shorry needed) and we could continue.

Your choice.

Please remember though. When you debate with me, there are no holy cows or unholy pigs.

There is no no-go area. If you are up to that intellectually, come ....

Wrong ? Lol you must know thread derailing is not allowed here on PDF. You can effectively receive a ban. You should be thankful to me for reminding you

 

[Mangus Ortus Novem]

Source: https://www.kashmirinsider.com/opinion/kashmir-rejects-india

Kashmir Rejects India

The latest violence witnessed in Indian occupied Kashmir (IOK) resulted in the death of six persons and more than two dozen were injured. This took place on April 9 as Indian security personnel opened fire on protesters campaigning against the by-election in Srinagar.

Firing bullets into masses of protestors is as contemptible as any state action gets, but the Indian forces returned to using a much more heinous tool – shotguns using steel pellets. Despite the massive outcry by human rights groups across the world, India continues to use the weapon that has caused partial to severe blindness among countless Kashmiris. Injuries and even fatalities are collateral of protests and clashes with protestors, but India’s use of inhumane, indiscriminate and brutal methods is far beyond what any reasonable state should ever use.

The Indian government would do well to heed the message of the Kashmiri people, but it is unlikely that the increasingly right-wing Hindu nationalist government will be partial to a negotiated solution that respects the rights of the province’s people. This regime has shut its eyes and point-blanked refused to talk about the Kashmir issues, hoping that not talking about it will make it go away.

On Monday, Former Chief Minister of Jammu and Kashmir, Farooq Abdullah, also asked India to wake up to the atrocities that were being committed in Kashmir and think of a political rather than a military solution. If India does not mend its fences, the consequence of it would be losing Kashmir.

As long as the Indian government continues using oppression, this problem will not go away, and the moderates in India realise this. The Pakistani government must ensure that it assist the Kashmiri people in any way and mean possible, they keep arguing the Kashmiri cause and that that they keep highlighting Indian atrocities at the world stage.

 

[AnnoyingOrange]

Source: https://www.kashmirinsider.com/opinion/kashmir-rejects-india

Kashmir Rejects India

The latest violence witnessed in Indian occupied Kashmir (IOK) resulted in the death of six persons and more than two dozen were injured. This took place on April 9 as Indian security personnel opened fire on protesters campaigning against the by-election in Srinagar.

Firing bullets into masses of protestors is as contemptible as any state action gets, but the Indian forces returned to using a much more heinous tool – shotguns using steel pellets. Despite the massive outcry by human rights groups across the world, India continues to use the weapon that has caused partial to severe blindness among countless Kashmiris. Injuries and even fatalities are collateral of protests and clashes with protestors, but India’s use of inhumane, indiscriminate and brutal methods is far beyond what any reasonable state should ever use.

The Indian government would do well to heed the message of the Kashmiri people, but it is unlikely that the increasingly right-wing Hindu nationalist government will be partial to a negotiated solution that respects the rights of the province’s people. This regime has shut its eyes and point-blanked refused to talk about the Kashmir issues, hoping that not talking about it will make it go away.

On Monday, Former Chief Minister of Jammu and Kashmir, Farooq Abdullah, also asked India to wake up to the atrocities that were being committed in Kashmir and think of a political rather than a military solution. If India does not mend its fences, the consequence of it would be losing Kashmir.

As long as the Indian government continues using oppression, this problem will not go away, and the moderates in India realise this. The Pakistani government must ensure that it assist the Kashmiri people in any way and mean possible, they keep arguing the Kashmiri cause and that that they keep highlighting Indian atrocities at the world stage.

Coming form a newspaper based out of Pakistan Occupied Kashmir.. guess what who runs this paper.. a Pakistani Punjabi...