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Indian govt behind Mumbai Attacks: Satish Verma

Actually the claim by former ISI credit that they sheltered OSMA has more merit on re-investigation. The reason being he had direct involvement in such decisions. But my fear is that everyone in Pakistan will work to supress the truth.
Just realized that once you wear glasses of prejudice, even the most ridiculous logic looks fine. India has tied up with LeT, hilarious. ROFL

Did I say India has tied up with LeT? I pointed out it can use some of its chotay motay operatives. They are not some divine power free from such manipulation. I am asking questions, the claim that Indian state has been involved in the murder of its people is levied by an Indian officer.

A claim planted by a retired officer who was NOT concerned with the matter at all is not a fact. Similar to how Hamid Gul's claims are not facts and pakistan is not launching another investigation based on his media claims

He evidence must still be listened to, especially since he was part of the government. If there won't be any merit to it then that's that.
 
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No surprises here. Indians always try to take advantage of others and then pretend to be the victim.
 
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thats one of the most troubling thing
a boat is allegedly departing Karachi and leaving for India, its not coming from Maldives or Sri Lanka but Pakistan and is able to evade region's powerful Navy and then there is no attempt by the terrorists and their alleged handlers to hide their identity, they might as well should have landed on a PIA flight, the alleged tapped phone call where the same terrorists who have managed to kill 170 people , have evaded Indian navy are now learning seeking instructions through phone on what to do..

There was no Pakistani boat that came to India. It was an Indian boat that was hijacked & crew killed. Do you expect the Indian navy/coastguard to stop all Indian fishing boats?
 
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The Pakistani behaviour across the board here is really indicative of how much they have been reduced to clutching at straws. The usual suspects aside, even those who have a brain are completely divorced from any ability to think rationally. Maybe that is why they believe in such ridiculous conspiracy theories across the board. Most countries have a small segment who are prone to believe crazy stuff. In Pakistan, I'm not sure whether there is even a small segment who does not believe that. Some escapist philosophy, this.:cuckoo:

Very easy way to get the dust off your forehead but such disclosures from a high rank official cant be just politics without any truth..

High ranking official? A police officer of the Gujarat cadre? :cuckoo:
 
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NEW DELHI: An Indian home ministry former officer has disclosed that a member of the secret service team had accused incumbent governments of "orchestrating" the terror attack on Parliament and the 26/11 carnage in Mumbai.

Secret service team? :lol: The Pakistanis (that was Geo TV) are so desperate that an officer of a special investigative team (SIT), not a permanent job but one formed to deal with a particular case by the judiciary suddenly because a member of some Indian "secret service"........:lol:

http://www.geo.tv/article-109301-Govt-behind-parliament-attack-2611-says-former-Indian-officer
 
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Yes yes the truth is out, we are caught red handed. For us to prove 26/11 was planned in Pakistan we need to prove everything without a doubt. For you to believe it was inside job, a statement allegedly by someone you do not know is more than enough. Why, because you have already decided that India is bad and evil.

Now on topic, try to read some post to understand it has nothing to do with 26/11. Dont just read headlines and jump with happiness.

I'm guessing this guy is like the Hamid Gul of India. He talks crap and doesn't know when to shut his lying mouth.
 
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Did I say India has tied up with LeT? I pointed out it can use some of its chotay motay operatives. They are not some divine power free from such manipulation. I am asking questions, the claim that Indian state has been involved in the murder of its people is levied by an Indian officer.



He evidence must still be listened to, especially since he was part of the government. If there won't be any merit to it then that's that.

The claims are being put forth by a bureaucrat. The allegation was made during an interrogation to get information by the interrogating officer? Have you been to an interrogation? There are 100 things the person asks and says, to confuse the person. This is simply that. The idiot media took one line and made it out to to be the holy gospel.

As for the claim of murder? They are encounters, we call them that. They are needed. They have been successfully carried out in Mumbai and they have done a LOT of good. They were carried out in Punjab, during the height of the insurgency and it put a lid on things. Here too, this should be used to full effect.

Nothing wrong in that.
 
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NEW DELHI: In what is certain to escalate the already vicious fight between the CBI and the IB over the IshratJahan "fake encounter case", a former home ministry officer has alleged that a member of the CBI-SIT team had accused incumbent governments of "orchestrating" the terror attack on Parliament and the 26/11 carnage in Mumbai.

R V S Mani, who as home ministry under-secretary signed the affidavits submitted in court in the alleged encounter case, has said that Satish Verma, until recently a part of the CBI-SIT probe team, told him that both the terror attacks were set up "with the objective of strengthening the counter-terror legislation (sic)".

Mani has said that Verma "...narrated that the 13.12. 2001(attack on Parliament) was followed by Pota (Prevention of Terrorist Activities Act) and 26/11 2008 (terrorists' siege of Mumbai) was followed by amendment to the UAPA (Unlawful Activities Prevention Act)."

The official has alleged Verma levelled the damaging charge while debunking IB's inputs labelling the three killed with Ishrat in the June 2004 encounter as Lashkar terrorists.

Contacted by TOI, Verma refused to comment. "I don't know what the complaint is, made when and to whom. Nor am I interested in knowing. I cannot speak to the media on such matters. Ask the CBI," said the Gujarat cadre IPS officer who after being relieved from the SIT is working as principal of the Junagadh Police Training College.

Mani, currently posted as deputy land and development officer in the urban development ministry, has written to his seniors that he retorted to Verma's comments telling the IPS officer that he was articulating the views of Pakistani intelligence agency ISI.

According to him, the charge was levelled by Verma in Gandhinagar on June 22 while questioning Mani about the two home ministry affidavits in the alleged encounter case.

In his letter to the joint secretary in the urban development ministry, Mani has accused Verma of "coercing" him into signing a statement that is at odds with facts as he knew them. He said Verma wanted him to sign a statement saying that the home ministry's first affidavit in the Ishrat case was drafted by two IB officers. "Knowing fully well that this would tantamount to falsely indicting of (sic) my seniors at the extant time, I declined to sign any statement."

Giving the context in which Verma allegedly levelled the serious charge against the government, Mani said the IPS officer, while questioning him, had raised doubts about the genuineness of IB's counter-terror intelligence. He disputed the veracity of the input on the antecedents of the three killed in June 2004 on the outskirts of Ahmedabad with Ishrat in the alleged encounter which has since become a polarizing issue while fuelling Congress's fight with Gujarat CM Narendra Modi.

Gujarat Police has justified the encounter citing the IB report that Pakistani nationals Zeeshan Zohar, Amzad Ali Rana and Javed Sheikh were part of a Lashkar module which had reached Gujarat to target Modi and carry out terrorist attacks.

In its first affidavit, filed in August 2009, the home ministry had cited IB inputs that those killed with Ishrat in the alleged encounter were part of a Lashkar sleeper cell, and had objected to a CBI probe into the "encounter".

In its second affidavit, filed in September 2009, the home ministry, irked by the Gujarat government treating the first affidavit as justification of the encounter, said the IB input did not constitute conclusive proof of the terrorist antecedents of those killed. It supported the demand for a CBI probe.

Mani said Verma doubted the input saying MHA's first affidavit was actually drafted by IB officer Rajinder Kumar, who looked after IB's operations in Gujarat at the time of Ishrat "encounter" and now runs the serious risk of being chargesheeted by the CBI for hatching the conspiracy behind the alleged extra-judicial killings.

Mani said Verma stuck to his guns even after being told that the home ministry did not need outside help. The former home ministry official said Verma insisted that the "input" was prepared after the encounter.
 
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The Indian supreme court should take up this extremely serious matter as not only did it make matters worse internally, by allowing internal agencies to play games, it also brought India to the brink of another war with Pakistan. Many of us have suspected all along that the above incidents were false flag operations, perhaps it is time India discovered the truth behind the incidents as well.
 
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hardly shocking, but government involvement is another twist, first it was BJP and the extremist hindu element in the Indian army, now its broader, its done on state level, by the govt itself. !!


hats off to the whistle blower !!
 
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Can you please post the Link................Again a Conspiracy theory................What about Kasab??????
 
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He evidence must still be listened to, especially since he was part of the government. If there won't be any merit to it then that's that.

Bhai there is no evidence, one person says another person is peddling ISI propaganda in private and the other person rejects it.

The first person wants to discredit the other person based on what he says he heard. If there is any evidence or even a person in the know has come out and said something, then that would merit investigation.

I'm guessing this guy is like the Hamid Gul of India. He talks crap and doesn't know when to shut his lying mouth.

LOL, its even more ridiculous, here one person is accusing other of being hamid gul in private and the other person is rejecting it :)
 
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Can you please post the Link................Again a Conspiracy theory................What about Kasab??????

He was already under arrest he was used by you guys you captured him from Nepal
 
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