Indian Freedom Struggle and Kashmir Freedom Struggle

[scionoftheindus]

iNDIANS have to view the issue asfll of people and not a case of property , a item like car or truck 1 man gave you a key to run it and you run that truck over the will of people

Once you view the issue as a matter of Will and choice , of people the issue becomes very easy to adapt and accept

Indian politicians use the issue as vote maker in election and with out Pakistan there won't be easy vote

Will of people keep changing...you can read how pakistanis (when they were himdus) reacted to invasions by gori and gaznavi some 1000 years ago when al beruni came to India..islam isn't going to last for more than 100 years in the subcontinent..people's opinion changes again..no need to take their will seriously.

 

[Prince of Dorne]

iNDIANS have to view the issue as will of people and not a case of property , a item like car or truck 1 man gave you a key to run it and you run that truck over the will of people

Once you view the issue as a matter of Will and choice , of people the issue becomes very easy to adapt and accept

Indian politicians use the issue as vote maker in election and with out Pakistan there won't be easy vote

Your posts are so dumb that they actually sound funny

 

[Arshad mahmood Hussain]

It is just so typical of banghees always the victim card. Threads like these come out and you can bet your bottom dollar the 'pandit' card comes out. Shameful and despicable when you consider the kashmiri Muslims have been driven from the valley by despotic dogras in their millions to all parts of the subcontinent. The dogras taxes and levied each and every kashmiri, tortured and killed hundreds and thousands and bhangees keep mentioning the kashmiri pundits. I have a feeling politicians and bhangees are using these people to further their political agenda and don't care too much for them.

Before you bring kashmiri pundits bring the kashmiri Muslims back.

And by the way kashmir was historically more Buddhist than Hindu. Laladitya mukhtipida was a kashmiri amd a conqueror, he conquered parts of 'india' his ancestors are probably Muslims from the valley.

 

[Prince of Dorne]

Kashmiris (who happen to be Muslims by overwhelming majority) have their land and resources occupied by a Hindu dominated force, militarily. Kashmiris do not want to live under Hindu/Indian rule.

Likewise, pre-independence indians had their resources controlled and their lands occupied by British (christian) force, militarily. Indians did not want to live under British rule.

In both cases, there is (and was) freedom struggle. In both cases, the odds are/were against the oppressed.

Looks pretty much the same to me.

Buddy, see that is the difference, you are brainwashed to see everything through religious glasses, We do not consider our fight against terrorists as a hindu vs muslim thing, nor did we perceived our freedom struggle as a Hindu vs Christian matter.

Bringing religion where it does not belong has brought you this fate where people are being killed even in masjids and by fellow muslims.

Religion is like a crocodile, you go check it out in zoo, see in TV, read about it in books, but you don't dig a canal and bring it to your home.

Our freedom struggle was secular, what the Kashmiri's doing is jihad which has no place in civilized countries.Of course it is no wonder that both will look same to you

Modern Indian republic is not the same as Indian Kingdoms/Empires, If it was then using that logic Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iran, even Turkmenistan could claim the entire Kashmir region too

If wishes were horses, beggars would ride

Arre bhai, koi kuch mangle lekin dega kaun?

Britishers came to India from thousands of miles away.
Indians or Hindus are living in Kashmir even before the Islam was born.

Comparing A foriegn occupation to The original inhabitants of the regions is beyond logic.


And to believe that Kashmir is gonna separate from India is mere stupidity.

Thousands of temples destroyed, millions killed and converted, ruled for about thousands of years. Hind is still here.Stronger than ever. Growing everyday.

Hell fcukin yeah

Agreed. But despite these differences between the demographics and economic condition of British Raj and Hindu Raj (current India), BOTH were/are an OCCUPYING FORCE and the oppressor.

Do you really expect logical reply after typing this gibberish?

 

[SQ8]

See being a moderator you can't get away with insubstantial remarks as 'hindus in kashmir came from central india'...if that is the case why do Muslims in the valley claim their ancestors were hindus?why do they have Hindu Sur names.

The following is from Wikipedia

Kashmiri kinship and descent is one of the major concepts of Kashmiri cultural anthropology. Hindu and Muslim Kashmiri people living in the state of Jammu and Kashmir in India and other parts of the world are very similar, which helps trace Kashmiri kinship and descent.

A significant section of the Kashmiri community form a social group whose members claim common ancestry. Both the Kashmiri Hindus and Muslim society reckons descent patrilineally. Certain property and titles may be inherited through the male line, but certain inheritances may accrue through the female line.

Kashmiri Muslim tribes from Hindu Lineage Edit

Baqal
Bhat, Butt
Dar, Dhar
Khawaja, Khwaja
Lone
Mattoo
Mir
Pandit
Qasba
Rathore
Sapru
Wani

Actually you pakistani Punjabis have got nothing to do with Kashmiris....Kashmir holds a lot of significance to indians culturally,religiously and historically.
Kashmiri name itself comes from the name of a Hindu sage kasyapa

The second you went to wikipedia I could tell your stupidy, even more confounded when you went to Punjabis.. my entire bloodline is from the UP or Turkey C'eye. Now GTFO this thread.

 

[SrNair]

Kashmiris (who happen to be Muslims by overwhelming majority) have their land and resources occupied by a Hindu dominated force, militarily. Kashmiris do not want to live under Hindu/Indian rule.

Likewise, pre-independence indians had their resources controlled and their lands occupied by British (christian) force, militarily. Indians did not want to live under British rule.

In both cases, there is (and was) freedom struggle. In both cases, the odds are/were against the oppressed.

Looks pretty much the same to me.

Kashmir was a part of the cultural India or Indian civilization since prehistoric period.

You can say or think whatever you want but noone cares about it

iNDIANS have to view the issue as will of people and not a case of property , a item like car or truck 1 man gave you a key to run it and you run that truck over the will of people

Once you view the issue as a matter of Will and choice , of people the issue becomes very easy to adapt and accept

Indian politicians use the issue as vote maker in election and with out Pakistan there won't be easy vote

Pakistan's name wont give you vote in India.They have more pressing issues in their nation.

 

[Malik Aamir Sohail]

Kashmir is part of Pakistan. Nobody can change this statement.

 

[ito]

Kashmir is like any state in India. A Kashmiri can become a PM, President, COAS and Chief Justice. He has all the political and other rights as any Indian. In British India, British looked upon Indians as a subject that were given none of any rights. There lies the difference.

 

[TechScribe18]

THe reason is poverty and unemployment. A fat stuffed Muslim has no interest in violence. The same way crime is associated with Eastern Europeans immigrants even though there seems to be less motivation for anything else.

Frustration is the motivation, please keep your religious hatred to yourself.


Please use the report system. Streamlines the process. Ill check it from there.

I think you have a point. There is some amount of poverty in Kashmir which needs to be addressed. But then, the leaders they have elected are corrupt and haven't done much for them.

 

[Sankpal]

 

[Asian.Century]

Indians and Kashmiris do not blend well together and this is why they are killing each other....103 Kashmiris vs 18 Indians ! Do not drag Pakistan in between !