Indian expats remit $3,716m from Bangladesh

[extra terrestrial]

5 lakh Indians work illegally

Dhaka to raise the issue at home secretary-level meet in New Delhi
Staff Correspondent

About half a million Indian nationals, who enter Bangladesh with tourist visas, are illegally working in various sectors and remitting millions of takas to India through hundi, revealed an intelligence agency report.

They overstay, work without permission and evade income tax, depriving the government of a huge amount of revenue, said the report recently submitted to the Ministry of Home Affairs.
‘
Most of them come with tourist visas for a week or two but stay for months or years,’ said an official of the intelligence agency.

Officials at the home ministry said the issue would be raised at the home secretary-level meeting of the two neighbouring nations beginning in New Delhi on Thursday.
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The issue will be one of the top agenda of the two-day meeting,’ a senior official of the ministry told New Age on Tuesday.
According to the report, thousands of Indian nationals come to Bangladesh on tourist visas and get employed in various jobs in the export processing zones, garment factories, information technology companies, English medium schools and textiles and fisheries industries.

‘They do not bother to seek permission for work or extend their visas,’ said the official of the intelligence agency that prepared the report after months of investigation.

Thousands of nationals from other countries also stay and work in Bangladesh the same way, but the home ministry officials time and again have failed to ascertain their number.The home ministry official said Bangladesh would take up the issue strongly in the New Delhi meeting.

‘The Indians coming with tourist visas will have to seek permission from the Bangladesh government for working here, and pay income tax,’ he said. ‘As they work illegally, they send their earned money illegally to India.’

Full report : http://www.newagebd.com/2007/aug/01/front.html#4

Old report but exposes indian lie and looting scheme.

This 500,000 figure is totally absurd, there are at least 5 million Indians in Bangladesh, most of whom are illegal.

Even my Aunt's maid is from Nodia India...

Even the sweeper in my area is a Radhi Brahmin from West Bengal. The fact is nobody really cares about these illegal Indians living in Bangladesh to escape the poverty of India; probably due to the sympathy for their situation, there is no objection against their abode.

 

[ares]

Bangladesh: Sinking and Dragging India Down? - Harvard Political Review

Global Migration — July 10, 2012 8:41 am
Bangladesh: Sinking and Dragging India Down?

In 1200 B.C., the Zoroastrians fled Iran with the fall of the Persian Empire, carrying with them the symbolic fire of the faith. When they arrived at Surat, Gujarat, the Zoroastrians sought refuge from the ruling king. Reluctantly, the ruler of the Indian kingdom brought forth a glass of milk, filled to the brim, demonstrating how the kingdom itself was full, overextended, and threatening to spill over the edges. The Zoroastrian high priest called for a spoonful of sugar and cautiously mixed it into the glass without spilling a drop.

Today, that symbolic gesture illustrates how the Zoroastrian community has dissolved in India, creating a homogenous Indian society. India’s reception of migrants has been offered seemingly unconditionally from receiving the Zoroastrians to taking in Tibetans in Dharamsala in 1959. More recently, however, Bangladeshi immigration has created problems that threaten this tradition of hospitality and India’s status as an accepting, diverse democracy.

The Consequences of Illegal Immigration

Bangladesh, which split from the Indian state in 1947, has long struggled to establish its strength as a nation. Numerous troubles have plagued the country ranging from cyclones and soil erosion to political mishandling of these crises. Religious persecution of Hindus since the time of the Mughal Empire has also led to swathes of the population fleeing across the border. In 2008, for example, the Asian Human Rights Commission reported several instances of land grabbing in the country, where the police of Paikgachha were asked to give up their land for no lawful reason. Given these problems, an estimated 15 million Bangladeshis have crossed the border into India to settle in West Bengal, Delhi, and Assam.

Illegal immigration has created a number of social, economic, and political consequences for both the Indian and Bangladeshi governments. Dr. Ranabir Samaddar, Director of the Calcutta Research Group, noted in his book, The Marginal Nation, that the flow of migrants across the Indo-Bangladeshi border has been the norm for generations, allowing an exchange of cultures, ideas, and faiths. However, this very porous border and illegal immigration have recently led to concerns about Indian security and safety.

Some argue that the influx of illegal immigrants over the border has led to a spurt in homegrown terrorist organizations. According to the South Asian Institute, Assam has seen the birth of nine Muslim militant groups pledging allegiance to Harkat ul Mujaheedin and Lashkar-e-Toiba, two Islamic militant groups that have gathered strength over the last decade. Lashkar-e-Toiba, in particular, claimed responsibility for the devastating November 2008 terrorist attacks in Bombay. This problem, no doubt, is exacerbated by the easy, fluid exchange of weapons and cash across the border. Furthermore, the presence of large Bangladeshi populations in places like Assam has led to skewed elections due to increased voting along ethnic lines.

The Backlash and Proposed Solutions

Throughout history, most migrant populations have assimilated into Indian society. The Bangladeshi immigrants, however, migrating in such large numbers, have failed to fully integrate into society, choosing instead to live in condensed pockets around the country. As problems associated with migration come to light, parties have had varied reactions ranging from quiet support to strong disapproval.

While the secular Congress party labels much of the criticism of illegal immigration “Hindu chauvinism” and islamophobia, others, such as Minister L.K. Advani, have advocated for the deportation of the entire 15 million unregistered Bangladeshis. Some have suggested reinforcement of the porous border to prevent the flow of people, money, weapons, and disease. Others are encouraging negotiations between Bangladesh and India over new laws to prevent migration, rather than the simple lacunae of both nations.

Stepping Forward

Few practical proposals have addressed the situation of migrants already present in India. Indeed, the country’s long history of hospitality towards immigrants is threatened, even as India’s diversity remains representative of its democratic tradition. One wonders what kind of precedent a rejection of these Bangladeshi migrants might set internationally. The Guardian’s recent criticism of India’s new “shoot on sight” policy along borderlines is but a taste of the condemnation India might face.

It is difficult to envision an ethically correct conclusion to this issue. On the one hand, the Indian government’s strict stance is understandable and practically justifiable. However, at this critical time in India’s development, it must be wary of its role as a multi-ethnic democracy. It is undoubtedly more practical to argue that harsh measures need to be taken against the Bangladeshi migrant population. But neglecting compassion is clearly not the answer.

While India’s economy is booming, and urban and rural areas are making great developmental strides, Indian acceptance of diversity has allowed democracy to flourish in an extremely heterogeneous society. Today, the Zoroastrians have managed to flourish, adding to the economy and resources of the country instead of draining them. Perhaps, then, we should have a little more faith that the Bangladeshis, too, can sweeten the milk.

 

[scholseys]

Its not remittance, its awami leaguers looting the nation and keeping their cash in their motherland India.

 

[TopCat]

Let me burst some bubbles of our dear NON RESIDENT BANGLADESHIS

1) Bangladesh is a 15 years behind India as far as corporate environment and culture is concerned.
2) It even lags Pakistan as far as the matter stated above is concerned!

Facts: (They are in a random order)

1. BBA from a Tier I institute like IBA (Dhaka), North South University is the best Edu. qualification and generally attracts the best talent which will get recruited in the corporate sector.
2. The best Engineering institute BUET really suffers when placements are concerned and would always be a second preference after IBA if the candidate is undecided.
3. BBA from a premier institute is CHEAPER than MBA BBA from NSU (without Schol. = BDT 7 Lakhs), MBA from the same is 3 Lakhs
4. Technocrats from BUET don't run the country.......
5. Other than IBA and the other 5 top private BBA colleges in Dhaka, barely 10% of the students have jobs
6. The average age of a BBA graduate is 23-24 years as per certificate (Almost 90% of the individuals have there DOBs altered by 1 year at least)
7. Children are in class I by the age of 8!!!!
8. One starts as an executive or an officer (first job entry level) at the age of 25
9. Universities like Rajshahi or Chittagong have a ...wait for it....."Session Joth" ...translated as Session Jam. Lets say you joined a BBA course in 2005. Since its a 4 years course in BD ...you graduate in 2009. But due to postponement of exams due to political turmoil of any manner you graduate in 2011...a bloody 6 year BBA . It happens every year in these 2 universities
10. The elite in BD, study for a board called EDEXCEL which awards A level and O Level (HSC and SSC). The papers are sent to England for evaluation
11. P&G wanted 3 Management trainees from BD (IBA only)...It took its Assessement test and psychometric tests, none qualified...they had to drop the psych evals....and finally zeroed in on one!
12. Levers had to trim the UFLP program to suit BD (The only Asian subsidiary to do so)
13. Stan C's IG program gets a RM appointment after a secondment stint of 6 months (No Investment Banking profiles for BD qualifiers yet...it started for BD 5 years ago)
14. Microsoft withdrew its Program Manager position after keeping it on float for 8 months
15. British American Tobacco cannot confirm its ATO (Entry level) positions to TO for almost 3 years now...(most of them are from Tier 2 institutes)

I know I'm being a bit harsh....but these are the ground realities.
Good talent in BD is scarce ...extremely scarce...
The bad thing is ....such talent has a huge tendency to immigrate!!

I sincerely hope BD catches up quick!
There is a huge opportunity there.



Hey don't you dare Deceive our dear OP

Exactly same can be said to USA economy as they don't produce enough engineers and coup up with the demand and hires a whole bunch from India. But USA is just USA and India which remains as India.

I don't want to go any further. Akolmand ki liye Ishara kafhii...

 

[chatterjee]

Source: Pew Research Center: Remittance Flows Worldwide in 2012

This doesn't include the illegal migrants from West Bengal, Meghalaya, Assam, Tripura, and Mizoram.Is it not amazing? However, that is the official figure. According to other sources, an almost equal amount, if not more, is sent through hundi and other illegal methods

we should kicked out those illegal indian migrants ASAP

 

[INDIAISM]

Source: Pew Research Center: Remittance Flows Worldwide in 2012

This doesn't include the illegal migrants from West Bengal, Meghalaya, Assam, Tripura, and Mizoram.Is it not amazing? However, that is the official figure. According to other sources, an almost equal amount, if not more, is sent through hundi and other illegal methods

we should kicked out those illegal indian migrants ASAP

Why Bangladesh leads in remittance outflow from India
By Namrata Acharya | Kolkata | 08 Jan 2016 00:35 am

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In the 1970s and ’80s, a large pool of migrant labourers from Bangladesh in Kolkata’s construction sector had no reservations in revealing their identity. Cut to 2016 and there are, officially, hardly any workers from Bangladesh in the sector, according to a city-based real estate developer.

Yet, recent World Bank data (Bilateral Remittance Matrix, 2014) show, of the $7.6 billion of outward remittances from India, 54 per cent or $4.16 billion was to Bangladesh alone in that year. Almost every year, 50-55 per cent of India’s total outward remittances are to Bangladesh.






Geographical proximity, a large pool of undocumented migrant labour, porous borders, historical ties and, more recently, the increasing interest of Indian companies in Bangladesh are some of the reasons behind the trend.

At present, non-banking finance companies are not allowed to facilitate outward remittances from India to there; all the transactions must be routed through banks. However, for major global remittance companies, Bangladesh is a major market.

Promoth Manghat, chief executive officer at UAE Exchange, says: “Actual outward remittances from India are much more than any official figure. Globally, Bangladesh is a major market for remittances for us. We are actively looking at starting remittance services from India to Bangladesh but regulations do not allow us to do so. We are in dialogue with the regulators.”

Migration and remittances

According to India’s 2001 census data, 5.1 million persons were reported as migrants. Nearly three million were from Bangladesh, 900,000 from Pakistan, 500,000 from Nepal and 100,000 from Sri Lanka. That’s only part of the story, for research documents indicate India is home to a large pool of undocumented migrants, especially from Bangladesh and Nepal.

Interestingly, after Bangladesh, Pakistan accounts for the second highest remittance outflow from India, at 27 per cent of the total. This is mainly on account of historical ties and consequent migration flows. General patterns of outward remittance and migration follows a parallel trend.

A World Bank report, Remittance Market in India, 2012, by Gabi G Afram, refers to a 2008 study by an A Kumar. It had stated that estimates of irregular migration from Bangladesh to India range from five million to 20 million. Most of these migrants work as unskilled or semiskilled labourers and domestic servants. The report says India is an important destination country for migrants from Bangladesh, Nepal and Pakistan and Sri Lanka. Migration from Bangladesh, Nepal and Lanka is mainly of unskilled and semiskilled workers, the study says.

Interestingly, World Bank data shows that 90 per cent of outward remittances of India are to the countries with highest migrant population, viz, Bangladesh, Pakistan and Nepal.

Another report by the International Labour Organization quotes a study by P Wickramasekara in 2011, which says migrant movements within South Asia are primarily geared towards India and Pakistan. “Although these are largely undocumented, the United Nations Population Division estimates India hosts some six million migrants (mainly from Nepal and Bangladesh)," it says.

Business ties with Bangladesh
Over the past six-odd years, a number of Indian companies have started operations in Bangladesh.

Notably, the definition of outward remittance by the World Bank is wide, including those by workers, compensation of employees and migrants’ transfers. Thus, remuneration of Bangladeshi employees by Indian companies in Bangladesh is counted as remittance.

“In recent years, there have been a number of acquisitions by Indian companies in Bangladesh. This apart, there have been a number of joint ventures and alliances by Indian companies; many Indian companies have also opened subsidiaries in Bangladesh,” notes Ambarish Dasgupta, head of management consulting and eastern region at KPMG in India.
Between 2011 and 2014, foreign direct investment outflow from India to Bangladesh increased 161%, from $26 mn to $68 mn, says KPMG. Some of the major investments proposals from Indian companies include Reliance Power's $3 billion plan to set up a 3,000 Mw power unit, based on imported liquefied natural gas there, and Gujarat-based Adani Group plan to invest $2.5 bn in building a 1,600 Mw coal-fired power plant in Bangladesh. The government there has also offered to establish two Special Economic Zones for Indian companies, beside allowing Life Insurance Corporation to start operations, says KPMG.



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[Fledgingwings]

What the

 

[TopCat]

Why Bangladesh leads in remittance outflow from India
By Namrata Acharya | Kolkata | 08 Jan 2016 00:35 am

• 
  

In the 1970s and ’80s, a large pool of migrant labourers from Bangladesh in Kolkata’s construction sector had no reservations in revealing their identity. Cut to 2016 and there are, officially, hardly any workers from Bangladesh in the sector, according to a city-based real estate developer.

Yet, recent World Bank data (Bilateral Remittance Matrix, 2014) show, of the $7.6 billion of outward remittances from India, 54 per cent or $4.16 billion was to Bangladesh alone in that year. Almost every year, 50-55 per cent of India’s total outward remittances are to Bangladesh.






Geographical proximity, a large pool of undocumented migrant labour, porous borders, historical ties and, more recently, the increasing interest of Indian companies in Bangladesh are some of the reasons behind the trend.

At present, non-banking finance companies are not allowed to facilitate outward remittances from India to there; all the transactions must be routed through banks. However, for major global remittance companies, Bangladesh is a major market.

Promoth Manghat, chief executive officer at UAE Exchange, says: “Actual outward remittances from India are much more than any official figure. Globally, Bangladesh is a major market for remittances for us. We are actively looking at starting remittance services from India to Bangladesh but regulations do not allow us to do so. We are in dialogue with the regulators.”

Migration and remittances

According to India’s 2001 census data, 5.1 million persons were reported as migrants. Nearly three million were from Bangladesh, 900,000 from Pakistan, 500,000 from Nepal and 100,000 from Sri Lanka. That’s only part of the story, for research documents indicate India is home to a large pool of undocumented migrants, especially from Bangladesh and Nepal.

Interestingly, after Bangladesh, Pakistan accounts for the second highest remittance outflow from India, at 27 per cent of the total. This is mainly on account of historical ties and consequent migration flows. General patterns of outward remittance and migration follows a parallel trend.

A World Bank report, Remittance Market in India, 2012, by Gabi G Afram, refers to a 2008 study by an A Kumar. It had stated that estimates of irregular migration from Bangladesh to India range from five million to 20 million. Most of these migrants work as unskilled or semiskilled labourers and domestic servants. The report says India is an important destination country for migrants from Bangladesh, Nepal and Pakistan and Sri Lanka. Migration from Bangladesh, Nepal and Lanka is mainly of unskilled and semiskilled workers, the study says.

Interestingly, World Bank data shows that 90 per cent of outward remittances of India are to the countries with highest migrant population, viz, Bangladesh, Pakistan and Nepal.

Another report by the International Labour Organization quotes a study by P Wickramasekara in 2011, which says migrant movements within South Asia are primarily geared towards India and Pakistan. “Although these are largely undocumented, the United Nations Population Division estimates India hosts some six million migrants (mainly from Nepal and Bangladesh)," it says.

Business ties with Bangladesh
Over the past six-odd years, a number of Indian companies have started operations in Bangladesh.

Notably, the definition of outward remittance by the World Bank is wide, including those by workers, compensation of employees and migrants’ transfers. Thus, remuneration of Bangladeshi employees by Indian companies in Bangladesh is counted as remittance.

“In recent years, there have been a number of acquisitions by Indian companies in Bangladesh. This apart, there have been a number of joint ventures and alliances by Indian companies; many Indian companies have also opened subsidiaries in Bangladesh,” notes Ambarish Dasgupta, head of management consulting and eastern region at KPMG in India.
Between 2011 and 2014, foreign direct investment outflow from India to Bangladesh increased 161%, from $26 mn to $68 mn, says KPMG. Some of the major investments proposals from Indian companies include Reliance Power's $3 billion plan to set up a 3,000 Mw power unit, based on imported liquefied natural gas there, and Gujarat-based Adani Group plan to invest $2.5 bn in building a 1,600 Mw coal-fired power plant in Bangladesh. The government there has also offered to establish two Special Economic Zones for Indian companies, beside allowing Life Insurance Corporation to start operations, says KPMG.



remittance-outflow-from-india-

Bangladesh bank shows zero remittance from India. State Bank of India shows zero remittance to Bangladesh.

 

[chatterjee]

Why Bangladesh leads in remittance outflow from India
By Namrata Acharya | Kolkata | 08 Jan 2016 00:35 am

• 
  

In the 1970s and ’80s, a large pool of migrant labourers from Bangladesh in Kolkata’s construction sector had no reservations in revealing their identity. Cut to 2016 and there are, officially, hardly any workers from Bangladesh in the sector, according to a city-based real estate developer.

Yet, recent World Bank data (Bilateral Remittance Matrix, 2014) show, of the $7.6 billion of outward remittances from India, 54 per cent or $4.16 billion was to Bangladesh alone in that year. Almost every year, 50-55 per cent of India’s total outward remittances are to Bangladesh.






Geographical proximity, a large pool of undocumented migrant labour, porous borders, historical ties and, more recently, the increasing interest of Indian companies in Bangladesh are some of the reasons behind the trend.

At present, non-banking finance companies are not allowed to facilitate outward remittances from India to there; all the transactions must be routed through banks. However, for major global remittance companies, Bangladesh is a major market.

Promoth Manghat, chief executive officer at UAE Exchange, says: “Actual outward remittances from India are much more than any official figure. Globally, Bangladesh is a major market for remittances for us. We are actively looking at starting remittance services from India to Bangladesh but regulations do not allow us to do so. We are in dialogue with the regulators.”

Migration and remittances

According to India’s 2001 census data, 5.1 million persons were reported as migrants. Nearly three million were from Bangladesh, 900,000 from Pakistan, 500,000 from Nepal and 100,000 from Sri Lanka. That’s only part of the story, for research documents indicate India is home to a large pool of undocumented migrants, especially from Bangladesh and Nepal.

Interestingly, after Bangladesh, Pakistan accounts for the second highest remittance outflow from India, at 27 per cent of the total. This is mainly on account of historical ties and consequent migration flows. General patterns of outward remittance and migration follows a parallel trend.

A World Bank report, Remittance Market in India, 2012, by Gabi G Afram, refers to a 2008 study by an A Kumar. It had stated that estimates of irregular migration from Bangladesh to India range from five million to 20 million. Most of these migrants work as unskilled or semiskilled labourers and domestic servants. The report says India is an important destination country for migrants from Bangladesh, Nepal and Pakistan and Sri Lanka. Migration from Bangladesh, Nepal and Lanka is mainly of unskilled and semiskilled workers, the study says.

Interestingly, World Bank data shows that 90 per cent of outward remittances of India are to the countries with highest migrant population, viz, Bangladesh, Pakistan and Nepal.

Another report by the International Labour Organization quotes a study by P Wickramasekara in 2011, which says migrant movements within South Asia are primarily geared towards India and Pakistan. “Although these are largely undocumented, the United Nations Population Division estimates India hosts some six million migrants (mainly from Nepal and Bangladesh)," it says.

Business ties with Bangladesh
Over the past six-odd years, a number of Indian companies have started operations in Bangladesh.

Notably, the definition of outward remittance by the World Bank is wide, including those by workers, compensation of employees and migrants’ transfers. Thus, remuneration of Bangladeshi employees by Indian companies in Bangladesh is counted as remittance.

“In recent years, there have been a number of acquisitions by Indian companies in Bangladesh. This apart, there have been a number of joint ventures and alliances by Indian companies; many Indian companies have also opened subsidiaries in Bangladesh,” notes Ambarish Dasgupta, head of management consulting and eastern region at KPMG in India.
Between 2011 and 2014, foreign direct investment outflow from India to Bangladesh increased 161%, from $26 mn to $68 mn, says KPMG. Some of the major investments proposals from Indian companies include Reliance Power's $3 billion plan to set up a 3,000 Mw power unit, based on imported liquefied natural gas there, and Gujarat-based Adani Group plan to invest $2.5 bn in building a 1,600 Mw coal-fired power plant in Bangladesh. The government there has also offered to establish two Special Economic Zones for Indian companies, beside allowing Life Insurance Corporation to start operations, says KPMG.



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Remittance inflows: Top 10 Countries (2016)

1.KSA- $2955.55
2.UAE- $2711.74
3.USA- $2424.32
4.MALAYSIA- $1337.14
5.KUWAIT- $1039.95
6.OMAN- $909.65
7.UK- $863.28
8.BAHRAIN- $489.99
9.QATAR- $435.61
10.SINGAPORE- $387.24

before posting something u should do some research and use ur brain

 

[Nilgiri]

From world bank working paper no. 102 (which BD's seem to ignore/forget conveniently):

https://books.google.ca/books?id=99...desh does not record remittance india&f=false

 

[chatterjee]

[/QUOTE]

one of the main writer of this paper is an indian named Dilip Ratha. 'for example, Bangladesh does not...........it has large migrant population in india'. again just a claim, no proof no official data given. Btw the thread is about indian migrants workers in bangladesh, the amount of money they are sending back to india etc... ur claim 'illegal migrant workers of BD in india' (which is just a claim no proof whatsoever) is completely different topic. Stay on topic

End of the day the truth is we are feeding so many poor indian migrants, giving them opportunities for a better life and also helping india as a whole to develop (4% of the its GDP depends on remittance inflows)

 

[TopCat]

From world bank working paper no. 102 (which BD's seem to ignore/forget conveniently):

https://books.google.ca/books?id=99af_qz0rHMC&pg=PA45&lpg=PA45&dq=bangladesh+does+not+record+remittance+india&source=bl&ots=hOILhFfXjy&sig=7tPRVobRqxeYQTLKFLGCXaVIFw0&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwig97GakoLTAhUB0YMKHaIxCbMQ6AEISDAH#v=onepage&q=bangladesh does not record remittance india&f=false

First learn what working paper means.

 

[Flynn Swagmire]

Nilgiri with his lulgiri

 

[my2cents]

@idune Dada....thanks for opening this feel good thread.....but your link not working...pls tell the source.

secondly, nos. don't add up. $3.7 billions just as remittances from Indians which forms around 3% of GDP of BD, is that Possible??

Math is not their strong forte.

Indians debunking something is oxymoronic to begin with. Now half a million is what this indian source count for but there are coutless other illegal indians who does not even use legal channel. Amount indians are looting from Bangladesh could be over 10s of billions.

Do you guys have any official figures how much of remittance is going out??

Why?? There are millions of foreign workers in BD, not only Indians. My whole apartment building is filled with Pakistanis.

What are millions of Pakistanis and Indians doing in BD??

 

[Nilgiri]

You cannot reply back with facts, now you want to become personal. Signs of a looser.

Just report and move on buddy. Not worth the time.