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Indian diplomat meets convicted spy Kulbhushan Jadhav in Islamabad

but seems aggressive diplomacy has forced them to accept some of our demands..
Again you're wrong. No aggressive diplomacy. It is the effect of ICJ's verdict.

I am not concerned now.. Initially it was not clear at all whether we have given them absolutely free access without camera recording (even if we are doing hidden camera recording).. because hidden camera recordings can't be presented in a court.. Now since it is an agreed hidden camera recording, we can present its recording if Gangus cry foul later.
Basically it was your distrust/doubt about the ability of Pakistani agencies and the govt. As I said I had no doubts about it and hence I was totally calm. When such decisions are taken, the whole process takes place
 
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Basically it was your distrust/doubt about the ability of Pakistani agencies and the govt. As I said I had no doubts about it and hence I was totally calm. When such decisions are taken, the whole process takes place
I think I am not able to present my point...

1 - No one is doubting/ distrusting the ability of Pakistani agencies.. if you put cameras without consent, the recordings can't be presented in a court. So.. even if we have best agencies, and we have the ability to record the session (which every country does have), there was no benefit of those recordings.

2 - Since now the in camera session is agreed, I am fine as we have covered ourselves legally..

3 - Regarding diplomacy, it is a kind of diplomacy when you don't give up on your basic demands.. If Pakistan first wanted a recorded session in the presence of its staff, and India wanted none.. now both accepted in camera and we have agreed to take back one of our demand (not both), I consider it back door talk.. which is normal in these circumstances.. Previous government would have accepted both Indian demands..

I think I am now more clear in what I wanted to convey.
 
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Under pressure’ Jadhav parroted Pakistan’s stance, claims India
By Our Correspondent
Published: September 2, 2019
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Kulbhushan Jadhav was arrested on March 2016 in Balochistan. PHOTO: FILE

ISLAMABAD: New Delhi on Monday admitted that convicted spy Kulbhushan Jadhav’s statement to its senior diplomat during consular access supported Pakistan’s stand on the case, but claimed that the convicted spy was ‘under extreme pressure’.

“[Jadhav] appeared to be under extreme pressure to parrot a false narrative to bolster Pakistan’s untenable claims,” the Indian external affairs ministry said in statement while referring to the convicted spy’s two-hour-long meeting with Charge d’ Affaires at the Indian High Commission Gaurav Ahluwalia in Islamabad on Monday.

The statement comes hours after Pakistan formally granted the consular access to the convicted spy in line with Vienna Convention on Consular Relations, ICJ verdict and the laws of Pakistan.
Ahluwalia met Jadhav at an undisclosed venue due to sensitivity attached to the matter.

Indian diplomat meets convicted spy Kulbhushan Jadhav in Islamabad

“While we await a comprehensive report, it was clear that Shri Jadhav appeared to be under extreme pressure to parrot a false narrative to bolster Pakistan’s untenable claims,” said a statement issued by India’s External Affairs Ministry. “We will decide a further course of action after receiving a detailed report from our Cd’A and determining the extent of conformity to the ICJ directives,” it added.

According to the statement, External Affairs Minister Subrahmanyam Jaishankar also spoke to Jadhav’s mother and briefed her of today’s developments.

Pakistan’s Foreign Office, on the other hand, maintained that there was no restriction on the language of communication during the meeting on India’s request. “In order to ensure transparency and in line with standard operating procedures, and as conveyed to the Indian side in advance, the access was recorded,” it added.

“As a responsible member of the international community and in line with our international commitments, Pakistan has provided un-impeded and uninterrupted consular access to Commander Jadhav.”

The former Indian naval officer was arrested on March 2016 in Balochistan – a region where Islamabad has long accused New Delhi of backing separatist rebels. He was convicted of planning espionage and sabotage and sentenced to death by a military court.


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Now wait for the Indian diplomat to cry like a baby that Kullu Bhos has told him he was kidnapped from Iran and Pakistanis beat the crap out of him and that all his statements were taken under duress..

If he is meeting alone, I don't agree with our government's decision..
I hope this is not a private meeting instead our govt is monitoring/recording the conversation
 
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Pressure speaking! Act like a good child!!
 
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I am SHOCKED that the article refers to Kulbhusan Jadhav as a "SPY" and not a terrorist.

I am sure this is a mistake and should be corrected by the Pakistani govt. directives at the earliest.
its Najam Sethi site , that's why.
 
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Jadhav admits working for RAW during consular access
By Kamran Yousaf
Published: September 3, 2019
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ISLAMABAD: Indian convicted spy Kulbhushan Jadhav, who was given the death sentence on charges of espionage and terrorism, stuck to his confessional statement during a meeting with Indian deputy high commissioner here on Monday that he was indeed working for Indian intelligence agency Research and Analysis Wing (RAW) and involved in subversive activities in Pakistan.

Jadhav was allowed to meet India Charge d’ Affaires in Pakistan Gaurav Ahluwalia, pursuant to the decision of the International Court of Justice (ICJ), which ruled that under the Vienna Convention, Pakistan is bound to give New Delhi consular access to the convicted spy.

“Consular access was provided at 1200 hours and lasted for two (02) hours, in the presence of officials of the Government of Pakistan,” an official statement issued by the Foreign Office said.
“On Indian request, there was no restriction on the language of communication. In order to ensure transparency and in line with standard operating procedures, and as conveyed to the Indian side in advance, the access was recorded,” the statement added.

The statement further noted that as a responsible member of the international community and in line with its international commitments, Pakistan had provided “un-impeded, uninterrupted consular access to India to Commander Jadhav”.

Although no details were shared by the Foreign Office regarding the contents of the two-hour-long meeting, officials familiar with the development said Commander Jadhav stuck to the confessional statement he made on previous occasions before the Pakistani authorities.

Officials said Jadhav informed the Indian envoy that he was working for RAW to carry out ‘subversive activities’ in Pakistan, particularly in Baluchistan.

India’s Ministry of External Affairs did indicate that Jadhav had indeed endorsed Pakistan’s stance but claimed he might have done all this under duress.

“While we await a comprehensive report, it was clear that Shri Jadhav appeared to be under extreme pressure to parrot a false narrative to bolster Pakistan’s untenable claims,” Indian foreign ministry spokesperson Raveesh Kumar said in a statement.

“We will decide a further course of action after receiving a detailed report from our Cd’A and determining the extent of conformity to the ICJ directives,” he added.

He also said the India’s external affairs minister had spoken to the mother of Jadhav and briefed her of the consular access.

“The government remains committed to continuing to work towards ensuring that Shri Jadhav receives justice at the earliest and returns safely to India,” Raveesh further said.

It is learned that the Indian government has shortlisted names of some Pakistani lawyers to plead Jadhav’s case.

The Indian naval officer turned RAW agent was arrested on March 2016 in Pakistan’s Balochistan – a region where Islamabad has long accused New Delhi of backing separatist rebels. He was convicted of planning espionage and sabotage and sentenced to death by a military court.

India claimed Jadhav retired from the navy in 2001 and was running a “logistics” business in the Iranian port of Chabahar. New Delhi insists he was taken captive in Iran before being moved to Pakistan and then forced to confess. India then approached the UN court to intervene, saying his trial had been unfair and Pakistan had denied him diplomatic assistance.

Pakistan maintained that a treaty between the neighbours did not oblige it to allow diplomatic assistance for those suspected of being spies or terrorists. The ICJ decision was a favourable outcome for Pakistan as the court did not order the acquittal and release of Jadhav.

The consular access was given despite soaring tensions between Pakistan and India over Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s decision on August 5 to revoke the special status of Indian Occupied Kashmir.

Pakistan has since then downgraded diplomatic ties and suspended bilateral trade with India as well as taken the issue to the UN Security Council.

The decision to grant consular access to Jadhav against the backdrop of Kashmir tensions has come under criticism, particularly on social media.

But officials insisted that the two issues were not interlinked and that Pakistan, following the ICJ decision, was under obligation to provide consular access.

According to officials, the decision would only help Pakistan’s standing at a time when India is brazenly violating the international laws by keeping millions of Kashmiris under locked down for almost a month now.




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