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Indian deputy consul general arrested in US on visa fraud charges

Please tell that you can't answer dude, and you are in no position to comment on my english, because, its the only english you can understand.

Think of your knowledge before questioning my english......... lol......

You never asked me a question, or if you did, your English was too poor to properly phrase it. So what was your question again?

P.S. I think you are just mad because India's honor had been grossly violated. You shouldn't be mad at me; you should protest in front of the American embassy instead.

Fine she committed a labour related crime in US. But she was a diplomat. I still dont understand this strip search thing!

I think there is more to this story than we know. A cavity search is performed to check for drugs and weapons. Maybe she was suspected of smuggling in addition to visa violations?
 
I still dont get it. The way she treated her maid is the typical South Asian culture of abuse. That is a problem here of course but why would they strip search her?

It was good she wasn't a Pakistani. The matter would have been hushed up or vitiated by American apologists and paid tuttoos in English speaking media.
 
all they'd have to do is declare her persona non grata, take away her credentials and send her and her maid on the next flight back to delhi

it would only be a problem if the maid were being beaten and threatened, the way some persian gulf princes do to their slaves

I think America really wanted to humiliate India and violate her honor. If not, America just didn't care about what Indians think.

This would never happen to a Russian or Chinese or German diplomat.
 
The article didn't mention a cavity search, but it did state the following:

"Mayor Annise Parker said late Thursday that the officers had been restricted to desk duty while the police and the State Department investigated the arrest."

and

"The United States responded with a promise to investigate the episode quickly and fully. 'The department takes this incident very seriously and has been in touch with the Chinese Embassy about what occurred,' a spokeswoman at the State Department, Nicole Thompson, said."

Now as far as we know, the police officers who arrested and humiliated the Indian diplomat are still on duty and face no suspension or punishment. America has not promised any quick action or investigation.

America thinks too little of India to warrant a response in accordance with the Geneva Convention. India is not China or Russia or Germany, so America can afford to relax and let this pass.

It's up to India to make America take notice, but do Prime Minister Singh and Sonia Gandhi have the guts to stand up to America?

Strip search doesnt mean cavity serach. Cavity search is usually done in airports on suspected drug smugglers.
 
lol ... interesting cavity searches ..... they might want to see, is it same as americans or different lol

You are retard... post reported... you are trying to make of the incident... weird..
 
Maybe she was cavity searched before being thrown into a jail cell. Cavity search is standard in American county jails, where prostitutes and drug users are sent before a hearing can be arranged. I just hope she wasn't inspected 'physically'.

Here's what Wikipedia says about this:

"Items can be concealed in a number of body cavities. For example, objects may be concealed by inserting them into the rectum. Illegal drugs can be placed in condoms and temporarily stored in the colon. Cylinders such as cigar tubes are used to hide money, intravenous syringes, and knives. Duplicate handcuff keys can be concealed in many body orifices. These goods are considered valuable inside a prison and can pose a security risk to staff and inmates at such facilities.

In a thorough visual body cavity search, a flashlight is used to illuminate body orifices, including nostrils, ears, mouth, navel, penis (urethra and foreskin) or vagina, and rectum. Generally, the detainee is required to manipulate these body parts so that they can be examined.

During manual body cavity searches, body orifices are probed using fingers or the entire hand. The circumstance in which these inspections may be done is often restricted. For example, they are done on individuals refusing to offer to consent to a visual body cavity search or in situations where there is strong evidence to suspect the presence of contraband.

The cavity search has proven ineffective in the prevention of smuggling objects as it can not detect objects in the intestines or stomach. It has become normal for authorities to isolate individuals in a monitored environment until they pass excretia and/or to x-ray the individual as it is less invasive and psychologically damaging."

Strip search doesnt mean cavity serach. Cavity search is usually done in airports on suspected drug smugglers.

She was cavity searched, most likely with a gloved hand to probe her anus and vagina. Cavity search is frequently performed at county jails before arraignment hearings.
 
You are retard... post reported... you are trying to make of the incident... weird..
oh come , my post was just on a lighter side of this incident , on a serious note , do you and anyone have any proof's that she is telling a truth ?

by looks of it, she knows what going on in india and to get more sympathy she is saying such things which flame it up more ..

I still dont get it. The way she treated her maid is the typical South Asian culture of abuse. That is a problem here of course but why would they strip search her?

It was good she wasn't a Pakistani. The matter would have been hushed up or vitiated by American apologists and paid tuttoos in English speaking media.

lol ,i dont think we have any female diplomat in USA anymore

We used to had sherry Rehman but come on people cant see her face , how can americans do cavity searches on her lol, they will die by the state of everything ... lol
 
The female diplomat was grossly violated. India's honor is grossly violated. How will India respond? Does prime minister Singh or Sonia Gandhi have the spine to stand up to America?
 
I think America really wanted to humiliate India and violate her honor. If not, America just didn't care about what Indians think.

This would never happen to a Russian or Chinese or German diplomat.

well one possibility is india (either the diplom. mission or the UN rep/chancerry) did something to really piss off the Americans, forcing them to retaliate

none of us know what that is.....

I have friends over at Boeing in Virginia (USA) and the defense lobby in DC is pretty angry about indian rejecting their offer of Hornets for MRCA deal.....though personally i see no connection at all to that

also indian and american interests in Bangla desh are heavily clashing lately......americans are working to ensure --through lobbying and meetings -- that the stooge Sheikh Hasina is shown the door.

(it will happen by the way)
 
well one possibility is india (either the diplom. mission or the UN rep/chancerry) did something to really piss off the Americans, forcing them to retaliate

none of us know what that is.....

I have friends over at Boeing in Virginia (USA) and the defense lobby in DC is pretty angry about indian rejecting their offer of Hornets for MRCA deal.....though personally i see no connection at all to that

also indian and american interests in Bangla desh are heavily clashing lately......americans are working to ensure --through lobbying and meetings -- that the stooge Sheikh Hasina is shown the door.

(it will happen by the way)

Whatever the case may be, it seems America deliberately tried to humiliate India and slap her hard in the face. America doesn't respect India. This incident shows that America has nothing but contempt for India.

India must respond to this egregious violation of her honor. It's unfortunate that India's leadership is weak. India allows China and America bully her freely. Even the Russians disrespects India by overcharging her on military equipments.

When will India stand up and defend her honor?
 
The female diplomat was grossly violated. India's honor is grossly violated. How will India respond? Does prime minister Singh or Sonia Gandhi have the spine to stand up to America?

well bc of pressure they did take some steps.....protocol-related as well as "aesthetics" (removing barriers, etc.)

india should just hope no terrorist attacks take place against that embassy b/c that wont bode too well in Washington!

Whatever the case may be, it seems America deliberately tried to humiliate India and slap her hard in the face. America doesn't respect India. This incident shows that America has nothing but contempt for India.

India must respond to this egregious violation of her honor. It's unfortunate that India's leadership is weak. India allows China and America bully her freely. Even the Russians disrespects India by overcharging her on military equipments.

When will India stand up and defend her honor?

yaar....superpowers will always be arrogant and seek 'control' over collaboration
 
You have identified the problem yourself, nobody in the Indian Consulate was informed that one of their officer is now considered a criminal.

@sackedelic: Um, no. The consul, from all the available information, knew that what she was doing at the time she did it was in violation of U.S. law. The reason why I cited that India would have to notify the U.S. that one of America's diplomats was now considered a criminal is because he was in danger of being prosecuted for something made a crime ex post facto - that is, at the time he did it the deed was acceptable to India, only to have the deed criminalized afterwards. Enforcing such a law without notice would pretty much trash the Consular Convention.

(Btw, one of the first things America did after throwing off the British yoke was to forbid in our Constitution, ex post facto laws.)
 
Wow, this is really humiliating. What will India do in response?

India Diplomat Says She Faced Cavity Search in NYC - ABC News

India Diplomat Says She Faced Cavity Search in NYC
An Indian diplomat said U.S. authorities subjected her to a strip search, cavity search and DNA swabbing following her arrest on visa charges in New York City, despite her "incessant assertions of immunity."

Prime Minister Manmohan Singh described the diplomat's treatment as "deplorable."

The case has sparked widespread outrage in India and infuriated the government, which revoked privileges for U.S. diplomats to protest her treatment. It has cast a pall over India-U.S. relations, which have cooled in recent years despite a 2008 nuclear deal that was hailed as a high point in the nations' ties.

Devyani Khobragade, India's deputy consul general in New York, was arrested Thursday outside of her daughter's Manhattan school on charges that she lied on a visa application about how much she paid her housekeeper, an Indian national.

Prosecutors say the maid received less than $3 per hour for her work.

In an email published in India media on Wednesday, Khobragade said she was treated like a common criminal.

"I broke down many times as the indignities of repeated handcuffing, stripping and cavity searches, swabbing, in a holdup with common criminals and drug addicts were all being imposed upon me despite my incessant assertions of immunity," she wrote.

An Indian official with direct knowledge of the case confirmed to The Associated Press that the email was authentic. The official, who spoke anonymously because of the sensitivity of the case, said India's priority now is to get the woman returned home.

"India's top demand right now is: Return our diplomat," he said, adding that Khobragade, who was released on $250,000 bail, would have to report to police in New York every week.

Khobragade was arrested by the U.S. Department of State's diplomatic security team and then handed over to U.S. marshals in New York.

The U.S. Marshals Service confirmed Tuesday that it had strip-searched Khobragade and placed her in a cell with other female defendants. It described the measures as "standard arrestee intake procedures."

The case has touched a nerve in India, where the fear of public humiliation resonates strongly and heavy-handed treatment by the police is normally reserved for the poor. For an educated, middle-class woman to face public arrest and a strip search is almost unimaginable, except in the most brutal crimes.

Prosecutors say Khobragade claimed on visa application documents she paid her Indian maid $4,500 per month, but that she actually paid her less than $3 per hour. Khobragade has pleaded not guilty and plans to challenge the arrest on grounds of diplomatic immunity.

Marie Harf, U.S. State Department deputy spokeswoman, said Khobragade does not have full diplomatic immunity. Instead, she has consular immunity from the jurisdiction of U.S. courts only with respect to acts performed in the exercise of consular functions.

If convicted, Khobragade faces a maximum sentence of 10 years for visa fraud and five years for making a false declaration.

The fallout from the case was growing. India retaliated against U.S. diplomats with measures that include revoking diplomat ID cards that brought certain privileges, demanding to know the salaries paid to Indian staff in U.S. Embassy households and withdrawing import licenses that allowed the commissary at the U.S. Embassy to import alcohol and food.

Police also removed the traffic barricades near the U.S. Embassy in New Delhi in retaliation for Khobragade's treatment. The barriers were a safety measure but India said they clogged up traffic.

On Wednesday, dozens of people protested outside the U.S. Embassy, saying Khobragade's treatment was an insult to all Indian women.

In New Delhi, the lower house of Parliament had to be temporarily adjourned Wednesday after lawmakers noisily demanded that it adopt a resolution against the United States.

Arun Jaitely, leader of the opposition in the upper house, said the government had to register its "strongest protest" to the U.S. government for the "lack of respect for India." He called for a review of India's relations with the United States, a demand that was vociferously seconded by many lawmakers.

Commerce Minister Anand Sharma said the arrest was a "matter of national outrage." He promised angry lawmakers that the government would make an official statement in Parliament on the incident.

Harf said Tuesday that federal authorities would work on the issue with India.

"We understand that this is a sensitive issue for many in India," she said. "Accordingly, we are looking into the intake procedures surrounding this arrest to ensure that all appropriate procedures were followed and every opportunity for courtesy was extended."
 
@sackedelic: Um, no. The consul, from all the available information, knew that what she was doing at the time she did it was in violation of U.S. law. The reason why I cited that India would have to notify the U.S. that one of America's diplomats was now considered a criminal is because he was in danger of being prosecuted for something made a crime ex post facto - that is, at the time he did it the deed was acceptable to India, only to have the deed criminalized afterwards. Enforcing such a law without notice would pretty much trash the Consular Convention.

(Btw, one of the first things America did after throwing off the British yoke was to forbid in our Constitution, ex post facto laws.)

What post-facto laws are you talking about?
 
oh come , my post was just on a lighter side of this incident , on a serious note , do you and anyone have any proof's that she is telling a truth ?
by looks of it, she knows what going on in india and to get more sympathy she is saying such things which flame it up more ..lol ,i dont think we have any female diplomat in USA anymore
We used to had sherry Rehman but come on people cant see her face , how can americans do cavity searches on her lol, they will die by the state of everything ... lol
US dept. admitted that they did so.

And don't make another comment you made before that. I can also make similar comment.

well bc of pressure they did take some steps.....protocol-related as well as "aesthetics" (removing barriers, etc.)
india should just hope no terrorist attacks take place against that embassy b/c that wont bode too well in Washington!yaar....superpowers will always be arrogant and seek 'control' over collaboration
Barricades were courtesy security. Its not compulsory to put barricades in that area. US consulate is totally secured.

If US want to play ball, we won't let our govt. to go away with it.
 

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