I M Sikander
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You should start a think tank comprising of idiots like your fellow immature indiansThe Indian weapons are for China because Pakistan is nothing.
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You should start a think tank comprising of idiots like your fellow immature indiansThe Indian weapons are for China because Pakistan is nothing.
And I hope that your Army and ISI continue to feed you with this bullshit for another 1000 years so that you remain the same old nothing!!!And you spent past 1000 years as slaves of nothing
They are also constrained in their choice by a) budget, and b) limited availability of willing suppliers.By the same token, anyone who is claiming that Chinese subs aren't up to the mark need to calm down a little. We simply don't have enough knowledge to claim that Chinese subs are inferior or superior to other subs.
Besides, I take the word of my navy professionals above anyone else. They are opting for Chinese subs after doing considerable homework. These are experts and not armchair generals like us. I don't have to be told by outsiders whether these subs are inferior or superior.
LMAO Keep thinking that kid. Chinese subs have over the years developed a lethal reputation. You are living in a fools paradise if you think that everything is good and dandy for India. Not everything is fine as you like to think because the Chinese have on multiple occasions proven how stealthy, silent and evolved their subs are without even knowing their full capability. It is no mean feat when a sub is able to sneak silently and undetectly among dozens of warships in the middle of an exercise... You just keep telling yourself that everything is fine for India. That is the mother of all fvck ups. Besides, you really think the Chinese are going to remain idle? By the time you have acquired any sub China too will have even better subs to their disposal. I don't think I have to persuade anyone here how efficient and rapid the Chinese work on their projects.
ok like you said Pakistan are side by side,you all have Surface missile.
what if indian find away destroy the PK'S Surface missile. I think you indian intelligence part is not a vegetarian.
you may kown the PK'S coordinates
and then it is SUB'S show time
They are also constrained in their choice by a) budget, and b) limited availability of willing suppliers.
Mmm, name me some naval incidents and the specific ships involved from the past 10-20 years....Almost ALL PN acquisition are w.r.t India and will be used against India and has been brought to target India.
MOre likely that by the time the 8th new sub comes online the Agosta 70s will retired, maybe also theAgosta 90BsThat's 8 + 3 Agosta AIPs + 2-3? Agosta 70s = 13-14 subs.
There are authoritative sources - more authoritative than anyone at this forum at least - out there, which are in a position where they (could) have access to relevant information.That still doesn't negate the fact that Chinese subs are supposedly inferior or superior to other rival sub. That is the main point of contention. How can anyone make tall claims when they don't even have the knowledge and information to do so? It is absurd.
When I say that Chinese subs cannot be underestimated I do that based on feats that the whole world has witnessed.
http://fas.org/irp/agency/oni/pla-navy.pdfChina’s new Jin-class ballistic missile submarine is noisier than the Russian Delta III-class submarines built more than 30 years ago, according to a report produced by the U.S. Navy’s Office of Naval Intelligence (ONI).
INS KOLKATA(D63) Laid 27 September 2003 Launched 30 March 2006 Commissioned 16 August 2014
INS Vishakhapatnam (D66) INS Visakhapatnam D 66 laid --12 October 2013 Launch--20 April 2015 Induction: 2018 (expected)
Do you see how much legendary delay in Kolkata & Vishakhapatnam class destroyer have comparably . Now you can laugh as much but when you commission your 8 SSK , we would induct 12 SSK, 7 SSN in this period , I am not counting ASW platform in this.
O, you think INS Vishakhapatnam would not be ready in 2017 last ?Kolkata took longer than time US took to build USS Gerald Ford. which i dont have much comments
But when you say Visakhapatnam's induction was faster, Do you see anything wrong in this picture? It must be really stealthy lol
If you want to compare ship building speed go ahead. If we commit to PN's schedule and assuming the deal was finalized and signed, we can handover all 8 subs before 2019, and frankly much faster than India can manufacture.
we commissioned 052D 19 month after it was laid down .....
Kolkata took longer than time US took to build USS Gerald Ford. which i dont have much comments
But when you say Visakhapatnam's induction was faster, Do you see anything wrong in this picture? It must be really stealthy lol
If you want to compare ship building speed go ahead. If we commit to PN's schedule and assuming the deal was finalized and signed, we can handover all 8 subs before 2019, and frankly much faster than India can manufacture.
we commissioned 052D 19 month after it was laid down .....
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China has more potential enemies than India (and most of them is comparatively large power and had a quite Naval assets there), so i keep wondered if their Navy will be committed to come to aid Pakistan in case of Indo-Pakistani war......