Indian copy of angkor wat irritates Cambodia

[jetti]

I suggest we make a replica of barbi masjid and make the Muslims happy

 

[tvsram1992]

So what if Cambodia gets irritated?

 

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

I suggest we make a replica of barbi masjid and make the Muslims happy

How about real restoration like Somnath temple

 

[samrat]

I suggest we make a replica of barbi masjid and make the Muslims happy

I will happily contribute to that endeavor provided Muslims bury their past and forgo their claim over Ayodhya.

 

[russellpeters]

Angkor Nagar is a little redundant..."ankor" is a corruption of "nagar"

Turns out there is a whole city there called Ayutthya which was modeled on Ayodhya...we didnt start it eh ?

Its ok if they are using some elements like the really attractive and novel gopurams...a wholesale copy is unwarranted...

and now Cambodia is really Kamboja-desa...a sanskrit name.

funny how things are related

 

[Bhairava]

India have a very rich Architecture and history ,It was more wise if that organization decided to
build a temple based on their own historical architecture and if they wanted they could inspired
from the Cambodian temple ,but an outright copy is a little questionable .

Angkor Wat itself is based partly on the South Indian Temple Architecture (Dravidian style) because of the Chola rule of Southeast Asia during the 10th and 11th centuries.

So there is no point of copying anything.


The entire Southeast Asia derives their culture from the Hindu-sanskrit influences from North India and part South Indian influence which was imparted during the Chola rule. It was during the later 13 th century onwards Theravada Buddhism from Lanka started making inroads into a predominantly Hindu area and they got converted.

Even now if you see place names in Thailand they will be corruption of pure sanskrit names and their King is still called by the title of Rama.

 

[Luffy 500]

Why is INDIA trying to copy a cultural landmark of cambodia. Are they implying that cambodia is culturally subservient to INDIA?

 

[Bhairava]

Why is INDIA trying to copy a cultural landmark of cambodia. Are they implying that cambodia is culturally subservient to INDIA?

We dont consider as such like you guys think of Arabia...but it is an indisputable fact that a portion of their culture derives itself from mainland India and its Hindu-sanskrit influence.

 

[russellpeters]

Why is INDIA trying to copy a cultural landmark of cambodia. Are they implying that cambodia is culturally subservient to INDIA?

no no subservience is an abrahamic mindset remember ?

infact by copying that culture, we have actually become followers..

and it is infact inspired from dravid temples, not that i condone the copying

and india isnt trying..we dont have a state religion. so we are not building the temple thank you. the temple is being built by a private concern. i hope you understand.

this is called "parayi shaadi me abdulla deewana" ..mind your own business, the cambodian govt will take up the issue as they see fit.

p.s there is a difference between literacy and education.

 

[Luffy 500]

We dont consider as such like you guys think of Arabia...but it is an indisputable fact that a portion of their culture derives itself from mainland India and its Hindu-sanskrit influence.

SO you right wing nationalists think that the whole asia is culturally part of Akhand Bharat.

 

[Yeti]

One of the most stupid threads on PDF he is using a blog site as a link is he even aware Angkor was built by Indians?

Influence of Indian Travelers to Angkor Civilization, Cambodia


The civilization in the Indian Subcontinent had been highly developed since ancient time. When trades became flourished between the East and the West, the Indian traders sailed to this region to establish Indian trading posts in order to collect goods and products during the off monsoon season. These traders brought with them their civilization, cultures, philosophy and religions, which were mostly appreciated and adopted by the less developed indigenous people.
The Indian post was somewhat unlike the "colony" during the colonial period, as it was rarely meant to involve in politics of the native land. The Indians were concerned mainly in trading and in collecting goods from the local to sell in distant lands.

The excavation at Eo Oc, a Funanese main port lying in South Vietnam today, revealed that the region was one of the prominent transitory points between the West and the East, and the trading connection between the two distant continents was well established. The unearthed artifacts at Eo Oc disclosed those goods originated from as far as the Roman Empire in the West and the Chinese civilization in the Far East.

During those days, the indigenous people were far less civilized than the Indian travelers and it was not surprising to find that they accepted many aspects from their foreign folks by which they deemed to be better and beneficial. One of these aspects were the religious and cultural elements of the Indian civilization. The natives adopted Hinduism as their religion and its gods Shiva and Vishnu were revered as their supreme gods. It was also found that the Brahmins, a learned caste of India, were invited into the royal courts to help in administration during the Funan period (1st century - 613 A.D) which was a predecessor of the Khmer civilization. In addition to the religious belief, the natives also learned the engineering skills such as the irrigation system as well as stone carving from the Indian Brahmins.

The extensive activities of Indian trading in the region seem to have ceased after the fall of the Roman Empire in 5th century, however, its relics were passed on to the next generations.

When the Khmer civilization evolved in early 9th century, the Khmer inherited several elements from its predecessor as well as those from the Indian civilization. Its first king Jayavarman II crowned himself as a deva-raja or "god-king" in 802 A.D, and his regime was more or less a replica of the successful Indian monarchy. Numerous impressive temples and monuments were built throughout the empire in successive centuries in order to praise the Hindu gods. These monuments are collectively known to us as the Angkor Temples (or Khmer temples), and the most famous ones are the Angkor Wat and the Angkor Thom (Bayon), both of which resided on the vast plain of Siemreap in Cambodia.

The process through which the Indian civilization had asserted a great influence upon another civilization was termed by the historians as "Indianization". However, the Khmer had never been fully Indianized as the term suggested. Although the Khmer adopted many aspects of Indian cultural and religious elements, the way of Indian life did not penetrate deeply into the root of Khmer civilization which was consisted of the laymen who still maintained their own way of life-style.

 

[Luffy 500]

One of the most stupid threads on PDF he is using a blog site as a link is he even aware Angkor was built by Indians?

Influence of Indian Travelers to Angkor Civilization, Cambodia


The civilization in the Indian Subcontinent had been highly developed since ancient time. When trades became flourished between the East and the West, the Indian traders sailed to this region to establish Indian trading posts in order to collect goods and products during the off monsoon season. These traders brought with them their civilization, cultures, philosophy and religions, which were mostly appreciated and adopted by the less developed indigenous people.
The Indian post was somewhat unlike the "colony" during the colonial period, as it was rarely meant to involve in politics of the native land. The Indians were concerned mainly in trading and in collecting goods from the local to sell in distant lands.

The excavation at Eo Oc, a Funanese main port lying in South Vietnam today, revealed that the region was one of the prominent transitory points between the West and the East, and the trading connection between the two distant continents was well established. The unearthed artifacts at Eo Oc disclosed those goods originated from as far as the Roman Empire in the West and the Chinese civilization in the Far East.

During those days, the indigenous people were far less civilized than the Indian travelers and it was not surprising to find that they accepted many aspects from their foreign folks by which they deemed to be better and beneficial. One of these aspects were the religious and cultural elements of the Indian civilization. The natives adopted Hinduism as their religion and its gods Shiva and Vishnu were revered as their supreme gods. It was also found that the Brahmins, a learned caste of India, were invited into the royal courts to help in administration during the Funan period (1st century - 613 A.D) which was a predecessor of the Khmer civilization. In addition to the religious belief, the natives also learned the engineering skills such as the irrigation system as well as stone carving from the Indian Brahmins.

The extensive activities of Indian trading in the region seem to have ceased after the fall of the Roman Empire in 5th century, however, its relics were passed on to the next generations.

When the Khmer civilization evolved in early 9th century, the Khmer inherited several elements from its predecessor as well as those from the Indian civilization. Its first king Jayavarman II crowned himself as a deva-raja or "god-king" in 802 A.D, and his regime was more or less a replica of the successful Indian monarchy. Numerous impressive temples and monuments were built throughout the empire in successive centuries in order to praise the Hindu gods. These monuments are collectively known to us as the Angkor Temples (or Khmer temples), and the most famous ones are the Angkor Wat and the Angkor Thom (Bayon), both of which resided on the vast plain of Siemreap in Cambodia.

The process through which the Indian civilization had asserted a great influence upon another civilization was termed by the historians as "Indianization". However, the Khmer had never been fully Indianized as the term suggested. Although the Khmer adopted many aspects of Indian cultural and religious elements, the way of Indian life did not penetrate deeply into the root of Khmer civilization which was consisted of the laymen who still maintained their own way of life-style.

Nothing special about Indian culture. India it self is culturally heterogeneous and every culture borrows somethings from other
culture and develops. It does't mean that INDIA enlightened Asia or something or it is the cradle of civilization.

 

[Yeti]

Nothing special about Indian culture. India it self is culturally heterogeneous and every culture borrows somethings from other
culture and develops. It does't mean that INDIA enlightened Asia or something or it is the cradle of civilization.

Thats your view not mine

 

[livingdead]

Why is INDIA trying to copy a cultural landmark of cambodia. Are they implying that cambodia is culturally subservient to INDIA?

When you follow arab culture and have persian and arabic sounding name(inspite of fighting a war based on bengali nationalism), build persian buidings, do arab and persia become subservient to your country bangladesh?