Indian Civilization, its contribution to Modern day Science and Philosopy

[Nassr]

na, thats the Favorite pass-time of you all, as you people love to kill minority, shiah, ahamedi etc. in your country and boost about it...

We are fighting back against such a thinking and the people having such a thinking. Apparently your media and the second largest party including its chief patron the terrorist organization RSS and its sponsored PM candidate support such thinking.

 

[INDIC]

do you think India would stay together if English is no longer the official language of India?

Yes it would, but what is stopping China and Taiwan from uniting.

 

[faithfulguy]

Yes it would, but what is stopping China and Taiwan from uniting.

India would not stay together without English. Its the British the united India. And its English that keep India together.

 

[INDIC]

India would not stay together without English. Its the British the united India. And its English that keep India together.

British and Americans were your liberators from the Japanese. Don't be so thankless to them Chinese.

 

[humanfirst]

We are fighting back against such a thinking and the people having such a thinking. Apparently your media and the second largest party including its chief patron the terrorist organization RSS and its sponsored PM candidate support such thinking.

Fighting back by acquitting terrorist leaders in courts,And by allowing terror leaders to blatantly spread their ideology..

 

[faithfulguy]

British and Americans were your liberators from the Japanese. Don't be so thankless to them Chinese.

China was not completely occupied, just like Soviet Union in WWII.
And who liberate India? Actually, its the British that created India. And its the Americans that demand Britain leave India after WWII. No matter how much you talk about others would not change the historical fact that India as a nation was created by British. Accept this fact and move on.

 

[humanfirst]

Only Rajastani rajput gave their daughters as sex slaves to Mughals not Punjabis, enough proof for you already?

Oh I see that you are talking about rajput princess getting married to mughal princess and fathering most of the mughal emporers..Punjabi muslims apart from the 20 year period of dulla bhatti were faithful servants of mughals or sikhs or whoever ruled that area..No point in comparing them to rajput kings or any kings for that matter.

 

[asad71]

There is / was never an "Indian" civilization. Hindu civilization has been, in degrees, pagan, retarded, sub-human and horrendous. It's contribution to mankind has been negative if anything. That's the sad truth of this cast-ridden, widow burning, human sacrificing society.

 

[Truth Finder]

There is / was never an "Indian" civilization. Hindu civilization has been, in degrees, pagan, retarded, sub-human and horrendous. It's contribution to mankind has been negative if anything. That's the sad truth of this cast-ridden, widow burning, human sacrificing society.

Truly a professional!!!

 

[scorpionx]

There is / was never an "Indian" civilization. Hindu civilization has been, in degrees, pagan, retarded, sub-human and horrendous. It's contribution to mankind has been negative if anything. That's the sad truth of this cast-ridden, widow burning, human sacrificing society.

Sir,what is Hindu Civilization? How their contribution to mankind can be horrendous or negative if they have managed to survived for over 5000 odd years? What ever follies you have pointed out,did it make the other newer religions immune to these kind of pernicious dogmas?

 

[humanfirst]

The IVC started fading out at 1900 BC. Most historians state that Vedic culture emanated around 1500 BC and its development continued till about 600 BC. The monumental difference as you state, took over 1000 years, as in the earliest period the Vedic culture was primarily monotheistic which probably was closer to IVC culture and it later diluted to polytheism and totally diverged.
They also became Hindus, became Buddhists and later became Muslim. However, if you are suggesting that these people just vanished in thin air, that did not happen as geographical, archeological and historical evidence overwhelmingly suggests that these people stayed in the same areas even after the IVC faded out.

Neither was earlier Vedic people of present day pakistan monotheistic and even them being monotheistic is not a possible link to IVC culture..And the difference is just vast-The entire people couldn't have forgotten the language,script,town planning and started a different lifestyle.There is very less chance that the vedic ancestors of people living in present day pakistan were descendants of IVC..There are also theories suggesting their migration to south India which can explain many similarities between IVC and dravidian societies,the presence of pockets of dravidian language in present day pakistan etc..

Regarding your claim about the Kushan, Gupta and Pala empires, I will post the maps of these empires. Please let me know where the IVC and all of remaining India have been politically united as one entity. At best only parts of either the IVC or Indian mainland have been joined to form an empire – nothing like the Mauryas, Muslims and British. If you have such information, it will help educate me further.

The matter in question was the political unity of areas there that are presently India and Pakistan.Not IVC which is not at all in the picture of two nation theory..

The Two Nations Theory which became one of the founding principles of creation of Pakistan and partition of British India in 1947, in historical hindsight, helped create status quo ante where history merely repeated itself.

Again the two nation theory was the cry for a homeland to subcontinental muslims-from punjab and deccan and bengal and elsewhere and have no connection to the unearthed ruins of IVC.

 

[American_Millenium]

Indian Civilization, its contribution to Modern day Science and Philosopy


I am opening this thread to remind people about the contribution done by the Great Indian civilization.Some of the works and advancements are done during Buddhist and Jain Rulers.

Quotes about India

Will Durant, American historian: "India was the motherland of our race, and Sanskrit the mother of Europe's languages: she was the mother of our philosophy; mother, through the Arabs, of much of our mathematics; mother, through the Buddha, of the ideals embodied in Christianity; mother, through the village community, of self-government and democracy. Mother India is in many ways the mother of us all".
Mark Twain, American author: "India is, the cradle of the human race, the birthplace of human speech, the mother of history, the grandmother of legend, and the great grand mother of tradition. our most valuable and most instructive materials in the history of man are treasured up in India only."

Albert Einstein, American scientist: "We owe a lot to the Indians, who taught us how to count, without which no worthwhile scientific discovery could have been made."

Max Mueller, German scholar: If I were asked under what sky the human mind has most fully developed some of its choicest gifts, has most deeply pondered on the greatest problems of life, and has found solutions, I should point to India.
Romain Rolland, French scholar : "If there is one place on the face of earth where all the dreams of living men have found a home from the very earliest days when man began the dream of existence, it is India."

Henry David Thoreau, American Thinker & Author: Whenever I have read any part of the Vedas, I have felt that some unearthly and unknown light illuminated me. In the great teaching of the Vedas, there is no touch of sectarianism. It is of all ages, climbs, and nationalities and is the royal road for the attainment of the Great Knowledge. When I read it, I feel that I am under the spangled heavens of a summer night.

R.W. Emerson, American Author: In the great books of India, an empire spoke to us, nothing small or unworthy, but large, serene, consistent, the voice of an old intelligence, which in another age and climate had pondered and thus disposed of the questions that exercise us.

Hu Shih, former Ambassador of China to USA: "India conquered and dominated China culturally for 20 centuries without ever having to send a single soldier across her border."

Keith Bellows, National Geographic Society : "There are some parts of the world that, once visited, get into your heart and won't go. For me, India is such a place. When I first visited, I was stunned by the richness of the land, by its lush beauty and exotic architecture, by its ability to overload the senses with the pure, concentrated intensity of its colors, smells, tastes, and sounds... I had been seeing the world in black & white and, when brought face-to-face with India, experienced everything re-rendered in brilliant technicolor."

A Rough Guide to India: "It is impossible not to be astonished by India. Nowhere on Earth does humanity present itself in such a dizzying, creative burst of cultures and religions, races and tongues. Enriched by successive waves of migration and marauders from distant lands, every one of them left an indelible imprint which was absorbed into the Indian way of life. Every aspect of the country presents itself on a massive, exaggerated scale, worthy in comparison only to the superlative mountains that overshadow it. It is this variety which provides a breathtaking ensemble for experiences that is uniquely Indian. Perhaps the only thing more difficult than to be indifferent to India would be to describe or understand India completely. There are perhaps very few nations in the world with the enormous variety that India has to offer. Modern day India represents the largest democracy in the world with a seamless picture of unity in diversity unparalleled anywhere else."

Mark Twain: "So far as I am able to judge, nothing has been left undone, either by man or nature, to make India the most extraordinary country that the sun visits on his rounds. Nothing seems to have been forgotten, nothing overlooked."

Will Durant, American Historian: "India will teach us the tolerance and gentleness of mature mind, understanding spirit and a unifying, pacifying love for all human beings."

William James, American Author: "From the Vedas we learn a practical art of surgery, medicine, music, house building under which mechanized art is included. They are encyclopedia of every aspect of life, culture, religion, science, ethics, law, cosmology and meteorology."

Max Muller, German Scholar: "There is no book in the world that is so thrilling, stirring and inspiring as the Upanishads." ('Sacred Books of the East')
Dr Arnold Toynbee, British Historian: "It is already becoming clear that a chapter which had a Western beginning will have to have an Indian ending if it is not to end in the self-destruction of the human race. At this supremely dangerous moment in history, the only way of salvation for mankind is the Indian way."

Sir William Jones, British Orientalist: "The Sanskrit language, whatever be its antiquity is of wonderful structure, more perfect than the Greek, more copious than the Latin and more exquisitely refined than either."

P. Johnstone: "Gravitation was known to the Hindus (Indians) before the birth of Newton. The system of blood circulation was discovered by them centuries before Harvey was heard of."

Emmelin Plunret: "They were very advanced Hindu astronomers in 6000 BC. Vedas contain an account of the dimension of Earth, Sun, Moon, Planets and Galaxies." ('Calendars and Constellations')

Sylvia Levi: "She (India) has left indelible imprints on one fourth of the human race in the course of a long succession of centuries. She has the right to reclaim ... her place amongst the great nations summarizing and symbolizing the spirit of humanity. From Persia to the Chinese sea, from the icy regions of Siberia to Islands of Java and Borneo, India has propagated her beliefs, her tales, and her civilization!"

Schopenhauer: "Vedas are the most rewarding and the most elevating book which can be possible in the world." (Works VI p.427)

Mark Twain: "India has two million gods, and worships them all. In religion all other countries are paupers; India is the only millionaire."

Colonel James Todd: "Where can we look for sages like those whose systems of philosophy were prototypes of those of Greece: to whose works Plato, Thales and Pythagorus were disciples? Where do I find astronomers whose knowledge of planetary systems yet excites wonder in Europe as well as the architects and sculptors whose works claim our admiration, and the musicians who could make the mind oscillate from joy to sorrow, from tears to smile with the change of modes and varied intonation?"

Lancelot Hogben: "There has been no more revolutionary contribution than the one which the Hindus (Indians) made when they invented ZERO." ('Mathematics for the Millions')

Wheeler Wilcox: "India - The land of Vedas, the remarkable works contain not only religious ideas for a perfect life, but also facts which science has proved true. Electricity, radium, electronics, airship, all were known to the seers who founded the Vedas."
W. Heisenberg, German Physicist: "After the conversations about Indian philosophy, some of the ideas of Quantum Physics that had seemed so crazy suddenly made much more sense."

Sir W. Hunter, British Surgeon: "The surgery of the ancient Indian physicians was bold and skilful. A special branch of surgery was dedicated to rhinoplasty or operations for improving deformed ears, noses and forming new ones, which European surgeons have now borrowed."

Sir John Woodroffe: "An examination of Indian Vedic doctrines shows that it is in tune with the most advanced scientific and philosophical thought of the West."
B.G. Rele: "Our present knowledge of the nervous system fits in so accurately with the internal description of the human body given in the Vedas (5000 years ago). Then the question arises whether the Vedas are really religious books or books on anatomy of the nervous system and medicine." ('The Vedic Gods')

Adolf Seilachar & P.K. Bose, scientists: "One Billion-Year-Old fossil prove life began in India: AFP Washington reports in Science Magazine that German Scientist Adolf Seilachar and Indian Scientist P.K. Bose have unearthed fossil in Churhat a town in Madhya Pradesh, India which is 1.1 billion years old and has rolled back the evolutionary clock by more than 500 million years."
Will Durant, American Historian: "It is true that even across the Himalayan barrier India has sent to the west, such gifts as grammar and logic, philosophy and fables, hypnotism and chess, and above all numerals and the decimal system."
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What I find incredibly funny is the fact that many of these quotes attributed to prominent scientists, philosophers, geniuses, etc. are false, and only spread through the idiocy of the Indian media.

Hilarious! Especially the Einstein one! But more importantly, SHAMEFUL, that you would attribute such quotes to people even though they never said them (and are not even here to defend themselves in the first place).

 

[American_Millenium]

This thread is no more than a rancid sweatshop of smelly Indians showing off their godlike superior status over other races, until their masters (whoever they may be, White/Chinese/Japanese) tell them to get back to work finishing up those fake 'Italian' made shoes.

 

[SarthakGanguly]

Welcome. Perhaps you just returned from your hunting trip in Afghanistan, Pakistan and Iraq. Perhaps you are itching for a fight against Syria...I know - Old habits die hard. So why not point a finger on the map and say - "Hey you not a slave of Uncle Sam. So you gotta pay!". In any case, since now you are again in the arms of your old love (the Taliban), I would wish you - Good(read Tough) luck.

Nice words - hopefully these will make your name more colorful.

This thread is no more than a rancid sweatshop of smelly Indians showing off their godlike superior status over other races, until their masters (whoever they may be, White/Chinese/Japanese) tell them to get back to work finishing up those fake 'Italian' made shoes.

 

[Srinivas]

Every now and then some but hurt trolls wear false flags and spread there B.S here

What I find incredibly funny is the fact that many of these quotes attributed to prominent scientists, philosophers, geniuses, etc. are false, and only spread through the idiocy of the Indian media.

Hilarious! Especially the Einstein one! But more importantly, SHAMEFUL, that you would attribute such quotes to people even though they never said them (and are not even here to defend themselves in the first place).