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the Tibetan government in exile is the common name for the central Tibetan administration

more on them Central Tibetan Administration - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

guess where they are headquartered?

from their own website
Dharamshala - 176215
H.P., India
Contact Information of Tibet.Net - The Official Website of the Central Tibetan Administration

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I had hoped that nobody would have the impetuousness or impatience to seek details on this very simple matter. It could have been verified and cross-checked before bursting into print in such an abrupt manner.

The Tibetan refugees have been allowed to stay on Indian soil on the strict condition that they do not conduct themselves as a government and do not seek to represent themselves to overseas nations as a government. None of the protocol and clauses of the international conventions and treaties that decide treatment of representatives of a foreign power apply to the refugees and their self-administrative bodies. You will perhaps realise that the government and the people of India, having given these unfortunate homeless people refuge, and having supplied them with the wherewithal, food, clothing and basic shelter, for survival, were unable to do much more for them, considering the general poverty of our own country. We are not a western nation with money overflowing from our coffers to keep them in the lap of luxury; not, for instance, that dictators and uprooted governments have been maintained in Paris, or London, or Riyadh. Along with this inability to do more than what human decency demands that we should do for those appealing for help, we left the Tibetans alone to look after themselves. In order not to have to deal with each individual alone, or with each family by itself, we allowed them to band together and to deal with the administrative measures applicable to them under the laws of the land as an entity. The entity is known as the Central Tibetan Administration. This does not mean that we accept this self-governing camp of refugees as a government, or that any other government in the world has done so. Your personal equation of the Central Tibetan Administration with a hypothetical Tibetan government in exile does not necessarily grant them international, diplomatic or legal status.

A visa for India is easy to obtain. You, from an American residence, should have no particular difficulty in obtaining one. I invite you to get one, to go to Dharamshala, not far from Delhi, up in the cool mountains in the climatic conditions that suit these poor people best, and come and see for yourself what is going on, and how the whole business is organised.

Please do not feel inhibited; this is a free country, and, except for those who have openly declared their hostility and have persistently attacked us, all other foreigners are free to travel around, with the exception of the border areas on the north, with Tibet, which have been restricted for travel insofar as a special permit, which takes an application a day or two before, is required. You are therefore perfectly free to take a bus, or a train part of the way and bus the rest, or travel by taxi from Delhi, or take whatever advice Lonely Planet and a dozen others will give you and see for yourself, rather than get your knickers in a twist.

You will find that they are left to themselves; they, too, in keeping with good manners, leave local people to themselves. There is hardly any friction; none reported anyway. The Buddhist heritage of some of the Indian citizens of the area also helps to keep inter-relationships harmonious. It is like any camp of people anywhere in the world.

Is it a government in exile? No.

It is not in touch with foreign delegations in the Indian capital or the Indian state. Its representatives do not have official status; India is a very protocol-conscious country, and the position of a functionary on the Protocol List, called the Order of Precedence, is taken very seriously. No Tibetan, claiming to be a representative of this group, is given official status. As already mentioned, they do not have the right to represent themselves to the diplomats deputed to India as an independent government. No foreign diplomat is accredited to them; the space they occupy is Indian space and not the space of sovereign authorities of Tibet. They apply for visas on temporary passports, as refugees within India might.

You will perhaps discover, on the expenditure of some slight effort on your part, that, notwithstanding what their (!) website states, their legal status is of refugees without a nation, sheltered by the Indian state and the Indian people, on the express written undertaking that they will not use this refuge to agitate or politically combine on Indian soil against the interests of any friendly power. It may amuse you to learn that India considers China a friendly power for this purpose, notwithstanding the external factors and episodes which come and find attention from our members on this forum from time to time.

If you have any further clarifications, please do not hesitate to ask. However, it is not unfair to request you to do your basic homework first.

Sincerely,
 
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The Tibetan refugees have been allowed to stay on Indian soil on the strict condition that they do not conduct themselves as a government and do not seek to represent themselves to overseas nations as a government.

Your personal equation of the Central Tibetan Administration with a hypothetical Tibetan government in exile does not necessarily grant them international, diplomatic or legal status.


You will find that they are left to themselves; they, too, in keeping with good manners, leave local people to themselves. There is hardly any friction; none reported anyway. The Buddhist heritage of some of the Indian citizens of the area also helps to keep inter-relationships harmonious. It is like any camp of people anywhere in the world.

Is it a government in exile? No.

that was long, ill get to the important points.

if the TCA were simply refugees living in india then i would have no problems with it.

publicly the CTA "do not conduct it self as a government" and "do not seek to represent another nation"

however consider the following

its internal structure is exactly like a government including parliaments, constitution, all 3 branches of government in fact in their about CTA page it says "government : democratic"(conducting it self like a government) though it claims it it will be dissolved as soon a government is form in Tibet by Tibetans(aka when tibet is independent), its position is that Tibet is under an illegal military occupation.

left to themselves they received millions from the CIA in the past and trained a guerrilla army

they have established "Tibetan Uprising Day holiday", and a "Tibetan National Anthem" what non government organization has a "NATIONAL" anthem?

India allows the CTA to exercise effective jurisdiction over the Tibetan communities in northern India.

is it a government in exile?
in EVERYTHING but name
 
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I believe the whites and Japanese are true enemies to Chinese people, not the Indian. Just read any history book would know in the pass 200 years, the whites and Japanese brutalize Chinese people and are still trying their best to undermine Chinese development. In the long history between China and India, they have been friends except for a very brief moment having some argument because of the unclear border line drawn by the British (whites again). There would be nothing merrier for the whites to see China and India to go to war. And that is why whatever China does for its military build up is to prevent the whites and the Japanese to harm China again. India, in the eyes of Chinese is good business opportunity and fierce competitor, not enemy.
LOL.... do you realize Indians want to be #1 Asian superpower? Yes, you read that right -- #1.

Indians are happy to side with the West against China because they think India is a Western country! They are proud to be colonized and speak English because they identify with the imperialists more than the indigenous colonized people.
 
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LOL.... do you realize Indians want to be #1 Asian superpower? Yes, you read that right -- #1.

Indians are happy to side with the West against China because they think India is a Western country! They are proud to be colonized and speak English because they identify with the imperialists more than the indigenous colonized people.

But my dear if i speak hindi or better my mother tongue telugu u will not understand it u know. Even i cannot understand u if u speak Chinese as i don't know that. So this foreign language is bridging some kinda gap between us isn't it??

However for some one talking about our obsession with the language , you urself seem to be pretty good at it. Don't u think it is below your standard to speak a third rate language ?? I guess the situation warrants its use for u if not u will not even say a English word ??
 
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LOL.... do you realize Indians want to be #1 Asian superpower? Yes, you read that right -- #1.

Indians are happy to side with the West against China because they think India is a Western country! They are proud to be colonized and speak English because they identify with the imperialists more than the indigenous colonized people.

Wo juede riben you yu zhongguo Women ye meiyou gandao nanguo shuo yingyu
 
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LOL.... do you realize Indians want to be #1 Asian superpower? Yes, you read that right -- #1.

Indians are happy to side with the West against China because they think India is a Western country! They are proud to be colonized and speak English because they identify with the imperialists more than the indigenous colonized people.

Dear Neighbour Hong Wu.
You know that people usually make statements without estimating their impact. None of the Indian is proud to be colonized and well about English, its the language for Bridging with different Ethinic and language speaking peoples. Do you know that there are about 500 official languages spoken in India, and many more unofficial ones. So need one or two languages which are spoken by a broad horizon of peoples. Hence as Joe and others said there shouldn't be any Blah Blah regarding Indians speaking English.
Second thing myself being a common man and a medicine Research scientist we always set example of china's development as our benchmark rather than looking always to west. And whats bad in taking good points from western world. It wont harm to yours or mine society and nation. We say y look towards west where the sun set, why not towards the place from where it rises. Hence we consider ourselves eastern not western.
China planned and executed their three point (If am not wrong) program for development, keeping USA as the benchmark. There would be no surprise if china overtakes USA as No1 Economy in near future. Same goes for India. She may not over take China and USA but surely can become a superpower. They say in Process of becoming perfect you may become Excellent. Perfection is the distination where you cant reach but excellence is the journey which you can constantly improve.
Regards
Drunken Monke
Shrikant Parwate
India
 
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So the Chinese raise our flag on independence day and we go all smoochy about it !! India should maintain a formal and peaceful existence with all its neighbours. India however needs no friends. We are emerging as one of the world's largest economies. We can stand on our own feet. Our sovereignity has never been compromised. We tolerate no nonsense from hostile and envious neighbours. China has been a hostile nation to us and that is a fact. The reason/s for their hostility is unimportant. What is important is that we retain our guard but remain without being the aggressor. Jai Hind
 
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Dear Neighbour Hong Wu.
You know that people usually make statements without estimating their impact. None of the Indian is proud to be colonized and well about English, its the language for Bridging with different Ethinic and language speaking peoples. Do you know that there are about 500 official languages spoken in India, and many more unofficial ones. So need one or two languages which are spoken by a broad horizon of peoples. Hence as Joe and others said there shouldn't be any Blah Blah regarding Indians speaking English.
Second thing myself being a common man and a medicine Research scientist we always set example of china's development as our benchmark rather than looking always to west. And whats bad in taking good points from western world. It wont harm to yours or mine society and nation. We say y look towards west where the sun set, why not towards the place from where it rises. Hence we consider ourselves eastern not western.
China planned and executed their three point (If am not wrong) program for development, keeping USA as the benchmark. There would be no surprise if china overtakes USA as No1 Economy in near future. Same goes for India. She may not over take China and USA but surely can become a superpower. They say in Process of becoming perfect you may become Excellent. Perfection is the distination where you cant reach but excellence is the journey which you can constantly improve.
Regards
Drunken Monke
Shrikant Parwate
India

amazing sir....this is one amazing reply
 
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Dear Neighbour Hong Wu.
You know that people usually make statements without estimating their impact. None of the Indian is proud to be colonized and well about English, its the language for Bridging with different Ethinic and language speaking peoples. Do you know that there are about 500 official languages spoken in India, and many more unofficial ones. So need one or two languages which are spoken by a broad horizon of peoples. Hence as Joe and others said there shouldn't be any Blah Blah regarding Indians speaking English.
Second thing myself being a common man and a medicine Research scientist we always set example of china's development as our benchmark rather than looking always to west. And whats bad in taking good points from western world. It wont harm to yours or mine society and nation. We say y look towards west where the sun set, why not towards the place from where it rises. Hence we consider ourselves eastern not western.
China planned and executed their three point (If am not wrong) program for development, keeping USA as the benchmark. There would be no surprise if china overtakes USA as No1 Economy in near future. Same goes for India. She may not over take China and USA but surely can become a superpower. They say in Process of becoming perfect you may become Excellent. Perfection is the distination where you cant reach but excellence is the journey which you can constantly improve.
Regards
Drunken Monke
Shrikant Parwate
India
How can India be trusted when it has no inclination to compromise on its border disputes with its two biggest neighbors Pakistan and China? After 50 years! India also has smaller border issues with its other neighbors.

How can India be trusted when your media casts negative light on China's rise, parroting the West? Reading the national media, it seems Indians are envious of China's success.
 
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seriously man, im fed up of these false flags, coming here and doing war-mongering.
 
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How can India be trusted when it has no inclination to compromise on its border disputes with its two biggest neighbors Pakistan and China? After 50 years! India also has smaller border issues with its other neighbors.

How can India be trusted when your media casts negative light on China's rise, parroting the West? Reading the national media, it seems Indians are envious of China's success.

look man our media is one sick organisation for which i have zero respect they are ruled and payed by rival parties to print all the crap and the central govt. has to bear the brunt of their actions,i wouldnt mind shoving an AK in their arse they very much deserve that,they rank aamir khan and other sickos above the army chief in the top people of india list,the navy and air force werent even ranked.

we arent envious of your success in the civvie street we always praise your govt.'s modernaisation the economic power you have become and people here tell me "china is much different brother,if we even reach to their standards we can do something great"

your success is what motivates us to work harder to enjoy the same
success that you have attained.

and again dont believe what our media says,i dont even watch indian news i prefer BBC and american CNN
 
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How can India be trusted when it has no inclination to compromise on its border disputes with its two biggest neighbors Pakistan and China? After 50 years! India also has smaller border issues with its other neighbors.

How can India be trusted when your media casts negative light on China's rise, parroting the West? Reading the national media, it seems Indians are envious of China's success.

Dear Hong Wu,

Indian media is just like a Garden Lizard, it changes its colors from instance to instance. And indian media does not represent whole India. About disputes, well almost all nations who has borders sharing with other nations has one or other disputes. Don't China have disputes with Taiwan, Japan, South Korea ? Does that make China bad ?? No... Serving in nations favor is the idealism every patriotic person should have, who might be considered as an enemy in viewpoint of other nation.
About Indians being envious of China's success, I would say why India and her citizens should be envy. Tell one thing mate what you know about India ? Negative things feeded in the mind from some internet inflamers is the basis of your conclusion then its lame. China is such a progressive nation that the mentality of her citizens should be towards positive end. We educated peoples here in India always talk about how well and rapidly China placed itself in the group of top contries. We always discuss about how china made its way as 2nd largest economy of the world, how it controlled its populations, how diciplined they are etc etc... If you are raising question about mutual lack of confidence then its understandable due to 1962 and in mid 80s skirmishes.

Take my word as a tonic, maximum Indians see China as a example for their own sake of progress and will continue to do so. Hope I was able to convince you, if not then I am sorry.

With regards and Hoping for better relationship
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Drunken Monke

PS: I am fan of chinese food and movies.
 
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