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The results of Russian occupation of Crimea and beginning of armed invasion to eastern Ukraine are international sanctions, including the supply of military goods, which have been imposed on the Russian Federation. Another crushing punch to Russian military-industrial complex has become the sanctions imposed by Ukrainian government, which banned the Ukrainian enterprises to carry out any activity with the country-aggressor.

The Kremlin's reaction was predictable - "they say, not too much we need You, you will soon cancel sanctions, and apologize, we will exist witout you, because now we have got up from knees, "Crimea Is Russian Federation" and other phrases of nonsense …

Starting with analysis of problems which confronted by Russian Federation after the imposition of sanctions in the field of defense industry, we must mention such factors as the alignment of military-technical cooperation with foreign countries.

In case with newly formed countries of CIS, they were forced to start their activities in this field, as to say from new page, opening up new markets, attempting to gain a foothold and establish them by investing and filling them with a political component and often competing with each other, but the Russian Federation felt at the international defense market quite freely and spacious.

Moscow without any financial cost and with complete absence of competition firmly hold the 2nd place in the list of the largest exporters of arms in the world. Here are some of them: Algeria, China, Egypt, Iraq, Iran, Syria, Vietnam, Venezuela, Angola, Ethiopia and of course, the largest diamond in the crown of the Russian military-technical cooperation - India, which still annually pleases the Kremlin's corrupt officials with many billions of US dollars contracts.

The Russian political doctrine has always assumed the presence of an own strong army, so it would be unfair not mention that under the leadership of President Putin on the development of its own armed forces were given significant government spending, the army and the fleet were regularly updated with new types of weapons. However, the question of quality of these weapons and implementation of the latest scientific developments in this case is not very crucial.

What is important is the fact that the armament of Russian army and the navy is carried out based on human and industrial potential, inherited by Russian Federation from USSR. There is no development of the basic military and technical sciences, specialized universities, responsible for preparing of scientific personnel to work in design bureaus and specialized enterprises, have been either closed or, figuratively speaking, exist only on paper, because the modern Russian youth do not want to be involved in scientific research in a badly heated rooms constructed in mid-60s.

Technological modernization of machinery equipment and production equipment also did not materialise, if you look around at the enterprises of the Russian defense industry you may see dignified label "Made in USSR". However, it is worth noting that in the most advanced and still-functioning enterprises label "Made in GDR" sometimes may be found or "Made in Czechoslovakia", which is more high-quality equipment in comparison with the Soviet one. Employees of Russian defense enterprises, trained in the era of Soviet Union are also unfortunately, will not last forever and they do not have a proper replacement.

As a result, the dependence of Russia on imported components was growing each year, and dependence of these components bo be used in complex systems and units (radars, aerospace, aviation, navigation, fire control, ballistic computers, special steels, alloys, composite materials and others) already became just comprehensive.

That is why Russia still produces and sells worldwide weapons created anf designed in the period of USSR, not even planning to create some new and more advanced models.

Only few people knows, that but back in 1985 in city Nizhny Tagil were completed all the works on the development of so called technical project "Object 148", and only after 30 years, the Kremlin was finally able to present it to the world as the most advanced Russian tank T -14 "Armata".

Russian federation is pushed to choose this path because of lack of qualified personnel, scientific and industrial potential and avalability of huge quantity of spare parts, components, parts and ammunition, inherited after collapse of the Soviet Union, the reserves of which at that time seemed to be inexhaustible.

According to international experts, industrial backwardness, lack of personnel, dependence on import, international sanctions and the lack of cooperation with Ukrainian enterprises sooner or later, would lead to significant problems in the Russian military-industrial complex. However, no one could even imagine that it would happen so fast.

First and annoying problems have appeared in a relatively cloudless for Russian Federation year 2007 – when Algeria, received 15 fighters MiG-29 SMT and returned them back to the Russia, referring that huge amount of components and systems of aircrafts were manufactured at the period of 80th-90th, which violated conditions of the contract. Then Czech Republic refused to take delivered helicopters Mi-35 for the same reason. Later, India refused to accept submarine built in Russia "Sinduvidzhay". It's just those conflicts, which became known to public, the number of technical problems that were solved confidentially by reducing price or replacing products that have been sold, we can only guess.

At the end of July this year an extraordinary event happened - the Indian side suddenly released an audit agency report (the audit was conducted in the spring of 2015) about technical condition of already supplied by Russian Federation qty 16 (total amount as per contract is 40 units) deck-based fighters MiG-29K and MiG -29KUB, which were inducted by Indian armed forces.

The published results were just amasing – 46 out of 65 engines RD-33MK got out of order, the Russian experts arrived in 2015 to India at the place of service of these fighters and were not able to solve technical problems associated with folding of wings, control system of the aircraft is also constantly out of order on these fighter planes. Fighter aircraft serviceability is terribly small and does not correspond to the contract.

It is also known that on invitation of the desperate Indian side aviation experts from other countries also visited India, trying to eliminate those revealed defects, but failed because the level of technical problems is just very crucial.

In addition, the same auditor's report provided information on the technical condition of double sitter fighters Su-30MKI, which Russia supplied to India a little bit earlier, which, however, did not affected their disgusting quality - among 210 units of Su-30MKI, 120 units are constantly on repairment. Observed problems with the same control system, catapults, radar receivers warning about detection fixed on fighters. During operation of these aircrafts there were even 7 fighters lost, observed 35 times engine damages, aircraft serviceability consists only 55-60% versus 75%, prescribed by the contract. The result of this scandal involving Russian Federation is quite fair - demand from Indian side to remove free of cost all technical problems obseved on the fighters.

Meanwhile Russian Federation gives no reaction, but it can be assumed that it actually no purpose to wait for it. And certainly, the Russian side will not address the identified defects and faults, trivialy it has neither industrial resources nor financial means nor qualified personnel. Most likely, Indian and Russia sides could come to an intermediate consensus: for example, Russia will return already received advances in the framework of the signed contract and the parties will browse this unpleasant page of their cooperation.

At the same time, the prospect of India's sharp rejection from Russian's arms still hardly to materialise, as almost 70% of Indian army and navy composed of Russian armaments. Although the trend towards this has already emerged - Delhi and Washington jointly stated on promising joint projects in the sphere of military-technical cooperation. Moscow, from its side, is trying to put pressure on New Delhi by simply blackmailing Indian side telling stories about activation of large-scale military technical cooperation with Islamabad.
 
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The results of Russian occupation of Crimea and beginning of armed invasion to eastern Ukraine are international sanctions, including the supply of military goods, which have been imposed on the Russian Federation. Another crushing punch to Russian military-industrial complex has become the sanctions imposed by Ukrainian government, which banned the Ukrainian enterprises to carry out any activity with the country-aggressor.

The Kremlin's reaction was predictable - "they say, not too much we need You, you will soon cancel sanctions, and apologize, we will exist witout you, because now we have got up from knees, "Crimea Is Russian Federation" and other phrases of nonsense …

Starting with analysis of problems which confronted by Russian Federation after the imposition of sanctions in the field of defense industry, we must mention such factors as the alignment of military-technical cooperation with foreign countries.

In case with newly formed countries of CIS, they were forced to start their activities in this field, as to say from new page, opening up new markets, attempting to gain a foothold and establish them by investing and filling them with a political component and often competing with each other, but the Russian Federation felt at the international defense market quite freely and spacious.

Moscow without any financial cost and with complete absence of competition firmly hold the 2nd place in the list of the largest exporters of arms in the world. Here are some of them: Algeria, China, Egypt, Iraq, Iran, Syria, Vietnam, Venezuela, Angola, Ethiopia and of course, the largest diamond in the crown of the Russian military-technical cooperation - India, which still annually pleases the Kremlin's corrupt officials with many billions of US dollars contracts.

The Russian political doctrine has always assumed the presence of an own strong army, so it would be unfair not mention that under the leadership of President Putin on the development of its own armed forces were given significant government spending, the army and the fleet were regularly updated with new types of weapons. However, the question of quality of these weapons and implementation of the latest scientific developments in this case is not very crucial.

What is important is the fact that the armament of Russian army and the navy is carried out based on human and industrial potential, inherited by Russian Federation from USSR. There is no development of the basic military and technical sciences, specialized universities, responsible for preparing of scientific personnel to work in design bureaus and specialized enterprises, have been either closed or, figuratively speaking, exist only on paper, because the modern Russian youth do not want to be involved in scientific research in a badly heated rooms constructed in mid-60s.

Technological modernization of machinery equipment and production equipment also did not materialise, if you look around at the enterprises of the Russian defense industry you may see dignified label "Made in USSR". However, it is worth noting that in the most advanced and still-functioning enterprises label "Made in GDR" sometimes may be found or "Made in Czechoslovakia", which is more high-quality equipment in comparison with the Soviet one. Employees of Russian defense enterprises, trained in the era of Soviet Union are also unfortunately, will not last forever and they do not have a proper replacement.

As a result, the dependence of Russia on imported components was growing each year, and dependence of these components bo be used in complex systems and units (radars, aerospace, aviation, navigation, fire control, ballistic computers, special steels, alloys, composite materials and others) already became just comprehensive.

That is why Russia still produces and sells worldwide weapons created anf designed in the period of USSR, not even planning to create some new and more advanced models.

Only few people knows, that but back in 1985 in city Nizhny Tagil were completed all the works on the development of so called technical project "Object 148", and only after 30 years, the Kremlin was finally able to present it to the world as the most advanced Russian tank T -14 "Armata".

Russian federation is pushed to choose this path because of lack of qualified personnel, scientific and industrial potential and avalability of huge quantity of spare parts, components, parts and ammunition, inherited after collapse of the Soviet Union, the reserves of which at that time seemed to be inexhaustible.

According to international experts, industrial backwardness, lack of personnel, dependence on import, international sanctions and the lack of cooperation with Ukrainian enterprises sooner or later, would lead to significant problems in the Russian military-industrial complex. However, no one could even imagine that it would happen so fast.

First and annoying problems have appeared in a relatively cloudless for Russian Federation year 2007 – when Algeria, received 15 fighters MiG-29 SMT and returned them back to the Russia, referring that huge amount of components and systems of aircrafts were manufactured at the period of 80th-90th, which violated conditions of the contract. Then Czech Republic refused to take delivered helicopters Mi-35 for the same reason. Later, India refused to accept submarine built in Russia "Sinduvidzhay". It's just those conflicts, which became known to public, the number of technical problems that were solved confidentially by reducing price or replacing products that have been sold, we can only guess.

At the end of July this year an extraordinary event happened - the Indian side suddenly released an audit agency report (the audit was conducted in the spring of 2015) about technical condition of already supplied by Russian Federation qty 16 (total amount as per contract is 40 units) deck-based fighters MiG-29K and MiG -29KUB, which were inducted by Indian armed forces.

The published results were just amasing – 46 out of 65 engines RD-33MK got out of order, the Russian experts arrived in 2015 to India at the place of service of these fighters and were not able to solve technical problems associated with folding of wings, control system of the aircraft is also constantly out of order on these fighter planes. Fighter aircraft serviceability is terribly small and does not correspond to the contract.

It is also known that on invitation of the desperate Indian side aviation experts from other countries also visited India, trying to eliminate those revealed defects, but failed because the level of technical problems is just very crucial.

In addition, the same auditor's report provided information on the technical condition of double sitter fighters Su-30MKI, which Russia supplied to India a little bit earlier, which, however, did not affected their disgusting quality - among 210 units of Su-30MKI, 120 units are constantly on repairment. Observed problems with the same control system, catapults, radar receivers warning about detection fixed on fighters. During operation of these aircrafts there were even 7 fighters lost, observed 35 times engine damages, aircraft serviceability consists only 55-60% versus 75%, prescribed by the contract. The result of this scandal involving Russian Federation is quite fair - demand from Indian side to remove free of cost all technical problems obseved on the fighters.

Meanwhile Russian Federation gives no reaction, but it can be assumed that it actually no purpose to wait for it. And certainly, the Russian side will not address the identified defects and faults, trivialy it has neither industrial resources nor financial means nor qualified personnel. Most likely, Indian and Russia sides could come to an intermediate consensus: for example, Russia will return already received advances in the framework of the signed contract and the parties will browse this unpleasant page of their cooperation.

At the same time, the prospect of India's sharp rejection from Russian's arms still hardly to materialise, as almost 70% of Indian army and navy composed of Russian armaments. Although the trend towards this has already emerged - Delhi and Washington jointly stated on promising joint projects in the sphere of military-technical cooperation. Moscow, from its side, is trying to put pressure on New Delhi by simply blackmailing Indian side telling stories about activation of large-scale military technical cooperation with Islamabad.

While Russia has a lot of military industrial complex left the decline in their industrial base is painfully evident. India should stick to purchases of vintage weapon systems and avoid the latest stuff.
 
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I think the article better be moved to World military Forum for greater audience.
On Topic: The world is changing fast and availability of hardware hitherto available to NATO countries only, is now accessible to certain large buyers (such as India) to slowly move away from Russia which till now have been largest single suppliers of defence hardware. This situation coupled with weak oil prices will force Russia to change tactics from erstwhile monopoly position in several countries. Another complication for them is emergence of China as a significant player in arms market and given the cost advantage Chinese military hardware, it will find an increasing market share in Latin America and African countries.
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the issue is not to do as much as with quality of hardware but the way Russia has treated its customers (probably still following policy of providing its satellite and ally states with heavily watered down versions) badly.

I Quote from SIPRI fact file 2016
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http://books.sipri.org/files/FS/SIPRIFS1602.pdf



Kremlin may still have a huge share of world's arm market pie, but situation is changing. with emergence of new Geo-political scenarios, as choices increase, disgruntled customers are likely to move away and find better deal for their money.

@PARIKRAMA @MilSpec @Shotgunner51 @waz @Abingdonboy
 
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I really don't understand why the collective exporters of arms are so insecure about Russian military exports. I never see Russians writing crap about western weapons or arms exports companies (I read Russian newspapers and magazines now and then).

This is pure Op Ed.
 
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I really don't understand why the collective exporters of arms are so insecure about Russian military exports. I never see Russians writing crap about western weapons or arms exports companies (I read Russian newspapers and magazines now and then).

This is pure Op Ed.

there are quality and technological issues with Russian weapons. denying it won't make it go away

Russia does not have access to same level of semiconductor technology America has. Why would Russian electronics be even close to American and Western electronics.
 
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Indian, Russian Leaders To Discuss Big-Ticket Defense Projects

NEW DELHI — India has lined up several big-ticket defense projects for discussion between its prime minister, Narendra Modi, and Russian President Vladimir Putin at a summit meeting in Goa next month, according to a Ministry of Defence (MoD) official.

The projects include the purchase of S-400 air defense systems worth $6 billion; finalization of the long-pending joint development of fifth-generation fighter aircraft (FGFA) worth more than $20 billion; leasing of a second nuclear-powered submarine worth more than $1 billion; and acquisition of $4 billion worth of stealth frigates to replace the Indian Navy’s Russian-built Rajput-class warships.

The MoD official said that the defense projects, most of which are already at the negotiating stage, were discussed at the 16th India-Russia Military Technical Cooperation Working Group meeting that took place Sept. 7-8 in New Delhi.

It’s likely that some of them could get the "final go ahead" during the Modi-Putin meeting, the official said, who spoke on condition of anonymity.

The Defence Acquisition Council (DAC), the highest body in the MoD that takes the lead on weapons purchasing, last year cleared the purchase of five S-400 systems worth $6 billion.

However, Moscow is dragging its feet in readily agreeing to sell the S-400 system, which was sold to China in 2014.

"Russia has been irritated by the fact that the Indo-US defense trade has increased to $13 billion, whereas the defense trade with Russia has not grown at the same pace despite Moscow being a strategic and traditional defense partner," defense analyst Bhim Singh said.

The ruling Modi government is now making efforts "to correct the imbalance," which appears to be tilted toward the West, in particular the US, Singh said.

Meanwhile, an agreement between India and Russia on the joint production the FGFA for the Indian Air Force (IAF) has been "nearly" reached, said a different source in the MoD.

Defense analyst and retired IAF Air Marshal Daljit Singh said of the India-Russia relationship: "Even though there has been an initial understanding between the two governments to jointly develop FGFA, the agreement could not progress due to differences over the percentage of work share [involved in] the research and development content between India and Russia. The agreement would be finalized if these issues have been resolved. It appears that there have been clear directions to move ahead with the agreement by mutually resolving the contentious issues.”

The preliminary agreement for the joint production of FGFA was inked in 2010, and a final agreement would release about $6 billion for the joint development.

"India and Russia have gone into deeper details in the FGFA," the first MoD official said, adding that the program is "now revived.” India has already spent $300 million in a preliminary design contract for the project with Russia.

According to the agency official, India and Russia agree on the pricing aspect of the development and IAF's demand to incorporate several changes in the prototype for use by the Indians.

India and Russia are also having an "advanced discussion" on the leasing of a second nuclear attack submarine, the first MoD official said.

Russia has already leased an Akula-class nuclear attack submarine to India for 10 years as a package deal along with the Russian-built aircraft carrier INS Vikramaditya, which was commissioned into the Indian Navy as INS Chakra in 2012.

From 2004-2005, the two countries inked big-ticket projects including the license production of Sukhoi aircraft, MiG 29K fighter aircraft and aircraft carrier Admiral Gorshokov for the Indian Navy, and the license production of T-90 tanks.

Analysts here say India will continue to be a major buyer of Russian weaponry and equipment.

"The Indian military will continue to depend on legacy and new Russian equipment for the foreseeable future. This dependence is hugely profitable for Russia in terms of post-sales services and spares," said Subhash Bojwani, a retired IAF Air Marshal and defense analyst.
 
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Its shameful to see India's share in Imports :tdown:

Most Indians are just happy to know we purchased billions of $ worth to weapons. ........... they actually keep track of the Billions of $ leaving India and then thank the Sellers for taking our money.

Entire threads in PDF is filled with Indians congratulation each other for purchasing more and more foreign goods. :lol:
 
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