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What if India is doing to Pakistan what China has done to India
China has eaten Indian territory one slice a time and now any intrusion into Indian land is like a common incident, not worthy of reporting or worrying. Infect China has been reducing Indian territory one slice a time, those thin salami slices that India thinks are too small to start a war for.

What if India is doing the same to Pakistan? What if through continuous provocations, India has already established a new normal where any incident less than missile firing would now be automatically acceptable to us? What if India has slowly gained more tolerance from Pakistan through series of Incidents like that, one salami slice a time?

We experienced something similar happening on the border where soldiers were being killed on both sides. Loss of a soldier or two became a norm and both countries were kind of "okay" if the number of deaths were 1, 2 or a few. That is still a loss on both sides but something that doesn't hurt us enough to go and change something.

But this "Salami Slicing" into Pakistan's affordance is one sided
Pakistan is not doing to India what India is doing to Pakistan, and I am afraid there is less worry and less agitation within us every additional time India provokes us. What if the "new normal" India said it will established... is already established deep in us?

Imagine how much tolerance India has towards Pakistan vs Pakistan has towards India. So here's the question: Has India been successful gaining undue leverages and excessive tolerances from Pakistan? Have we lost to India what India has not lost to Pakistan?
 
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Another aspect of this incident could be that India is setting the precedent that it can fire missiles deep into Central Pakistan, not just on the borders/at the periphery during a LOC skirmish. Pakistan, at the time of its choosing, needs to demonstrate it can penetrate and operate deep in Indian air space with impunity, because a weak perception could invite more incidents.

It’s not enough for us to be able to shoot down what they fire at us, but we must be able to match their capabilities on a qualitative basis.
It's right time and good opportunity to show them our strength, but sadly Our leadership is clueless and gutless they are in deep sleep
 
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This is not the first time that India deliberately fire Brahmos missile in Pakistan. First the fired two after 27/02 near abandoned nuclear facilities but Govt decided not to public it and now after acquiring J-10 they feel threatened and the did it again,
@PanzerKiel

We should retaliate in proper way.

Over simplification and misjudging are like two prominent American traits these days. Obviously there's a reason why you think like that.

But for your education, Pakistan and India are daggers drawn from the last several years. 2019 air skirmish, annexation of Pakistani territory by India and sending submarines to our territorial waters frequently are examples of ongoing offences from the Indian side, and then pushing and pulling on diplomatic fronts is on top of that. If this incident was indeed a mistake, India has tried its best not to make it look like one. Their failure to inform Pakistan in time, unwillingness to engage Pakistan soon after it happened and then providing absurd explanations almost confirm that it was as deliberate as we know.
We know Indian know even Indian Gov know that this strike was a deliberate attempt, but somehow our clueless gutless leadership still think it was misfire just to have face saving, but do you know what are the long term implications? In future India will bomb our cities without any fear

@MastanKhan ,

No one can fool us unless we are willing to fool ourselves. Who doesn't know Indian intentions towards Pakistan since Modi took over. There are 10s of incidents that confirm intentful and ongoing Indian hostility towards Pakistan. On top of that, it's impossible to accidentally launch a missile. Who's willing to buy accidental launch $hit? It's also impossible that a strategically vital Indian asset would be brought 100 KM from Pakistani border and would be tested there. Brahmos tests take place in one of the most inaccessible regions of India: the Andaman Nicobar Islands. What has changed now? Why suddenly test their best weapons before Pakistan so easily knowing that the relationships between two countries are only worsening?

What I am emphasising is that India cannot fool us, but we can make ourselves a jack-***. Like Pakistanis believe that there's a sincere leader in Nawaz Sharif or Zardari, likewise the entire Nation can fool itself imagining that it was an accidental fire from India - but if we accept that, this wouldn't make India look bad, this makes us look retard. For us as a Nation, it'd be less insulting to believe that India won Feb 2019's air skirmish but its more insulting to declare them innocent after they slapped a Brahmos upon our National face and then lied, yet we let them go for both. I hope you get the point.

Now the real question is why do we have to make ourself look retard? On the ground, this may not be the best time for us to start a confrontation - we get it - but let's not eat Indian $hit in the name of explanation. Let's save ourselves from accepting Indian lies as truths. If Pakistan wants an exit from this situation, there can be better ways to do that.. e.g. imposing restrictions upon India unless India punishes the ones involved or something like that - but let's not destroy our self-respect because India slapped a missile at us. That will be a double loss.
They bombed us in Balakot, they send subs in our waters they fire supersonic missile on us in peace time, there's Zero retaltion, because our gutless leadership trying best to have a face saver. Hamari quami gairat kahan gae? Kiya waqy he hamari military itni weak hai?
 
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In future India will bomb our cities without any fear
They will not, and if they do, you will 100% see a retaliation

Do you not understand that the only reason we didn't retaliate is because India played the innocence card?

It works perfectly because there is little damage and no loss of life, so if we retaliate we look like the aggressors against someone who did something accidentally and apologised.

India knows very well if they publicly claimed it as intentional, they would receive an equal reply.

The only response to this is aggressive diplomacy, raise it at UN, seek reimbursement for the damage, and start a probe into the incident.

Pakistan should make a statement that if they don't agree to paying for the damages caused and starting a joint probe, they will take the incident as intentional and retaliate
 
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This is not the first time that India deliberately fire Brahmos missile in Pakistan. First the fired two after 27/02 near abandoned nuclear facilities but Govt decided not to public it and now after acquiring J-10 they feel threatened and the did it again,
@PanzerKiel

We should retaliate in proper way.
If anyone in Pakistan thinks that Brahmos was misfired and it was unintentional to yh sub sy bari gadari hogi motherland sy. Agr thuri gairat baqi hai to just retaliate no other excuse
 
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They will not, and if they do, you will 100% see a retaliation

Do you not understand that the only reason we didn't retaliate is because India played the innocence card?

It works perfectly because there is little damage and no loss of life, so if we retaliate we look like the aggressors against someone who did something accidentally and apologised.

India knows very well if they publicly claimed it as intentional, they would receive an equal reply.

The only response to this is aggressive diplomacy, raise it at UN, seek reimbursement for the damage, and start a probe into the incident.

Pakistan should make a statement that if they don't agree to paying for the damages caused and starting a joint probe, they will take the incident as intentional and retaliate
If we couldn't retaliate this time why you think we will retaliate next time? Next time they will come up with diffrent excuses, Brahmos is most advanced lethal missile, you can't just misfire it, if it can be misfired then there's ZERO guarantee that they can't misfire other weapons on us. Lagta hai Hamari quami gairat dafan ho gae mian Channu mai. Kash yeh manhos mian Channu China mai hota
 
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If we couldn't retaliate this time why you think we will retaliate next time? Next time they will come up with diffrent excuses, Brahmos is most advanced lethal missile, you can't just misfire it, if it can be misfired then there's ZERO guarantee that they can't misfire other weapons on us. Hamari quami gairat dafan ho gae mian Channu mai.
Because they claimed innocence in the form of malfunction.

Had they openly claimed it to be intentional, you would have seen a response, just like Balakot had a response.

We can't retaliate here otherwise we are seen as aggressors against an innocent India who had a malfunction during a routine test.

If we couldn't retaliate this time why you think we will retaliate next time? Next time they will come up with diffrent excuses, Brahmos is most advanced lethal missile, you can't just misfire it, if it can be misfired then there's ZERO guarantee that they can't misfire other weapons on us. Lagta hai Hamari quami gairat dafan ho gae mian Channu mai. Kash yeh manhos mian Channu China mai hota
This is my opinion on how it should be handled:

Pakistan should make a statement that if they don't agree to paying for the damages inflicted by their "malfunction" and starting a joint probe, they will take the incident as intentional and retaliate

And also threaten to retaliate against any future mishaps as it is hard to believe that you can consistently have malfunctions targeted specifically at your prime adversary, especially with a fascist regime that gains mass support through anti-Muslim/anti-Pakistan rhetoric

Raise this at the UN, internationally

But not immediate retaliation
 
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