Indian Bollywood mocks Tamil struggle in "Madras Cafe". Chola Revival!

[bronxbull]

As far as history is concerned, in 1017, the Cholas could have wiped out the whole of Sinhala pseudo race, but they didnt although they should have to safe the future of Tamils in the island.


And the Pandyas were Singhala`s allies, which explains the survival of the Lions' progeny , remember the Queen of the pseudo Singhala race was a Tamil Pandya Princess from Madurai. And the last Buddhist King of Kandy was a Tamil , who died in Tamilnadu ..

Learn our own history and your genetics ..

That's not true.the last fight in rameswarM was between sethupathi maravars and the sinhala

 

[Skyline]

Nice try. My refusal to get into the murky waters of race debate, right from whether it exists, whats the definition to the various apocryphal stories about the origin of the Sinhala DOES not prove Sinhala are a race.

You made that claim.

Here's some interesting data here, no matter how interpreted, the separate race theory remains elusive.

Genetic studies on Sinhalese - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I don't think you will find a race without genetic mixing in this world, every human started their journey from Africa.

Those charts are familiar to me, one study is totally different to other.

Chart 1

chart 2

 

[notsuperstitious]

I don't think you will find a race without genetic mixing in this world, every human started their journey from Africa.

Those charts are familiar to me, one study is totally different to other.

Chart 1

chart 2

Agreed with what you say.

But still no distinct ''original'' race.

 

[Skyline]

Agreed with what you say.

But still no distinct ''original'' race.

Not clear what you are trying to mention. Can please name some "Original" race you are trying to mention.

 

[notsuperstitious]

Not clear what you are trying to mention. Can please name some "Original" race you are trying to mention.

I'm not trying to name any original races. You are.

 

[Skyline]

I'm not trying to name any original races. You are.

I'm not the person who commented in the previous post saying "But still no distinct ''original'' race."

 

[notsuperstitious]

I'm not the person who commented in the previous post saying "But still no distinct ''original'' race."

Oh I see the confusion. I was not implying some races are original and some are not, infact I made clear I did not want to get into the race debate.

You said ''hala is your original race'' and that ''Sinhala race is native only to SL''. I was referring to that.

 

[AnnoyingOrange]

MUMBAI (AFP) – Bollywood is foraying into controversial terrain with new spy thriller, "Madras Cafe", whose depiction of rebels in the Sri Lankan civil war has raised concerns among India's large Tamil population.

The movie, which opens in India this month, features John Abraham as an Indian secret agent shortly after peace-keeping troops sent by New Delhi to Sri Lanka were forced to withdraw in 1990 following a three-year battle with separatist Tamil rebels.

Director Shoojit Sircar describes "Madras Cafe", shot in the southwestern Indian state of Kerala, as a "hardcore political film which examines conspiracies, espionage, how information is coded, decoded and passed through".

India has a large and politically active Tamil population in its south and South Indian activists have already raised concerns over the movie's depiction of the rebels in the bloody conflict.

But Sircar insists the movie, set in the early 1990s, "does not take sides.

"The bigger message is that in a civil war, civilians suffer the most," he told AFP.

While the film's main character is fictitious, Sircar said he had "used real references, portrayed rebel groups, revolutionary freedom fighters, Indian Peace Keeping Forces (and) shown how India got involved and the chaos".

The conflict in Sri Lanka, which cost up to 100,000 lives, erupted in 1983 between government forces and the rebel Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE), who were fighting for an independent state for ethnic Tamils. Both sides are accused of human rights atrocities.

In 1987, Indian Prime Minister Rajiv Gandhi sent a peace-keeping force in a bid to end the conflict but the intervention failed.

The move was met with criticism at home while straining relationships between the two neighbours, and when Gandhi was assassinated in 1991, the LTTE were the prime suspects.

Sircar remains tight-lipped over whether Gandhi's killing is tackled directly in the movie, saying "how it ends and moves is the surprise of the film".

Although the assassination changed the course of Indian history, few of the country's movies have looked at Gandhi's death, the Tamil Tigers or the Sri Lankan conflict.

Tamil-language drama "Kutrapathrikai" (Chargesheet), based on Gandhi's killing and the civil war, was blocked by the censors for its political overtones and only released 13 years later in 2007 with several cuts.

The acclaimed 1999 Tamil film, "The Terrorist", was inspired by the assassination, while the 2002 drama "Kannathil Muthamittal" (A Peck on the Cheek), directed by Mani Ratnam, focused on a girl searching for her parents amid the Sri Lankan conflict and won various awards.

Often preferring more light-hearted fare, Hindi-language Bollywood films that venture into geopolitics tend to focus on cross-border conflicts with Pakistan and the disputed region of Kashmir.

But Sircar, whose past films include the unconventional 2012 comedy hit "Vicky Donor" about sperm donation, said he wanted to place the spy operation against a different setting.

"I did not want the usual India-Pakistan backdrop," he said. "I had been following this civilian crisis for a long time and integrated it into the main story."

Although the movie has passed India's censor board, the film may still face hurdles in the southern state of Tamil Nadu.

Activist group Naam Tamilar (We Tamils) has asked the state government to stop the film's release, unhappy that the trailer depicted the LTTE as "terrorists", according to Indian media reports.

"We would like to see the film before its release," filmmaker Sebastian Seeman, who heads the group, told Indo-Asian News Service, saying they would let the film pass "if we don't find any scene in the film objectionable".

"Madras Cafe" star Abraham told AFP he plans to attend a press conference in Tamil Nadu to calm any controversy over the movie, saying: "I am sure once they see the film they will be happy.

"It is great cinema and we have taken great care not to hurt anyone's feelings. But the backdrop of the film is true incidents and real life situations which we can't shy away from," he said.

It would not be the first film to be banned in Tamil Nadu.

Another spy thriller, "Vishwaroopam", was forced out of cinemas in January after Muslim groups complained they were portrayed in a negative light, prompting director Kamal Haasan to threaten to go into exile.

The matter, which renewed fears about freedom of artistic expression in India, was resolved when controversial scenes were muted.

Read more: Bollywood courts controversy with Sri Lanka war film | Fox News

Madras Cafe has laid the foundation stone of the revival of the Chola Empire - the maps of which are circulating the internet, spread by the Tamil/Dravidian freedom movements inside Aryan India - most analysts agree that the re-establishment of this empire, in the form an independent Tamil state will occur before the turn of the decade.

The map of this independent state of Tamil Nadu can be seen below, shaded in grey.

Long Live Periyar, Long Live Tamil Nadu!

Just read the disclaimer before movie starts..." Everything about this movie is fictions... with no relation to true events"

That should help your pain.

Its a movie for god sake... why politicize....just shows intellectual maturity of some people.

 

[Guynextdoor2]

The idea that any movie that has John Abraham in it is more than worth a piece of tissue paper is a joke.

MUMBAI (AFP) – Bollywood is foraying into controversial terrain with new spy thriller, "Madras Cafe", whose depiction of rebels in the Sri Lankan civil war has raised concerns among India's large Tamil population.


India has a large and politically active Tamil population in its south and South Indian activists have already raised concerns over the movie's depiction of the rebels in the bloody conflict.



Read more: Bollywood courts controversy with Sri Lanka war film | Fox News

Madras Cafe has laid the foundation stone of the revival of the Chola Empire - the maps of which are circulating the internet, spread by the Tamil/Dravidian freedom movements inside Aryan India - most analysts agree that the re-establishment of this empire, in the form an independent Tamil state will occur before the turn of the decade.

The map of this independent state of Tamil Nadu can be seen below, shaded in grey.

Long Live Periyar, Long Live Tamil Nadu!

Naa....I think we'll be too busy with Balochistan to pay any attention to Tamil empire....

 

[HeinzG]

Oh I see the confusion. I was not implying some races are original and some are not, infact I made clear I did not want to get into the race debate.

You said ''hala is your original race'' and that ''Sinhala race is native only to SL''. I was referring to that.

Sinhala means four heals Siwu + Hela = Sinhala

 

[meral]

I don't know what's going on in India but what I felt is that India is a fake state. I say this not to hurt Indian brothers but I read a few nice stuff about Kerala like how they were successful on family planning and having the cleanest state in India and being a tourist attraction and whenever I tell this to Indians they go crazy

 

[notsuperstitious]

Sinhala means four heals Siwu + Hela = Sinhala

I know But not scientific, like Lanka was Ravan's capital is not scientific, its apocryphal.

I don't know what's going on in India but what I felt is that India is a fake state. I say this not to hurt Indian brothers but I read a few nice stuff about Kerala like how they were successful on family planning and having the cleanest state in India and being a tourist attraction and whenever I tell this to Indians they go crazy

Your concerns are noted, although you have not been kind enough to tell us how Kerala's success tells us why India is a fake state. But you may want to save that profound theory for a more relevant thread. Thanks.

 

[meral]

Your concerns are noted, although you have not been kind enough to tell us how Kerala's success tells us why India is a fake state. But you may want to save that profound theory for a more relevant thread. Thanks.

Cause Northerners have no union with the whole country, there is no indian nation, just Northerner who only feel good to look down upon Southerners

 

[HeinzG]

I know But not scientific, like Lanka was Ravan's capital is not scientific, its apocryphal.

Not scientific? You mean the Balangoda man is not scientific? You mean the the Balangoda iron smelters are not scientific? Your only scientific assumption is the Veddas are the only inhabitants of the Sri Lanka until the Vijeya.

 

[Mike_Brando]

I'm very proud that Sri Lanka created a international hero figure. I would like you to tread on the path of Piribhaharan and start a fight in India for a seperate Tamil state.

lets say India declares a war on your puny island country today.you think anyone will give a sh*t about S.L. as India has far too much importance in the international political arena than lankans.but the direct consequence would be the end of S.L. as a nation.just imagine a massive strike by around a 100 jaguars escorted by dozens of Su-30MKI.won't it be a beautiful sight for the lankans