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Beggars cannot be choosers...IK should have seen this coming when he went with begging bowl to KSA and UAE...blame no other...India has relationship with Arabs dating back 2 Millennium...Pakistan is foolish if it thinks it can isolate India.Pakistan should work on developing its competency and economy to emerge as an indispensable country like Israel.
First of all I would like to say that India is not some 1000 year old civilization like some stupid BJP nationalists like to say.

Republic of India was created in 1947 like Pakistan was. Republic of India cannot claim all of South Asia's history.

Secondly, yes it is very difficult to isolate 1.3 billion people, lol.

I guess this is bad luck.

Pakistan needs to develop it's economy and military and then talk!
 
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Shaking my head, over 700,000 Indian terrorist army is oppressing, raping and killing non-Arab Kashmiri muslims for over 70 years and look at what the Arabs have done.

Oh how I wish the Ottomans was still an empire today, there is only one nation in the middle east that are our true blood brothers only one the Turks.

Arabs dont give 2 cents for Kashmir...they look after their own interest first and so we should.
 
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Shaking my head, over 700,000 Indian terrorist army is oppressing, raping and killing non-Arab Kashmiri muslims for over 70 years and look at what the Arabs have done.

Oh how I wish the Ottomans was still an empire today, there is only one nation in the middle east that are our true blood brothers only one the Turks.
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Arabs dont give 2 cents for Kashmir...they look after their own interest first and so we should.
Exactly!

Arabs, Turks, Persians, Uzbeks don't give a two cents for the Kashmir cause.

Nor should we care about the Palestinian-Israeli cause.

Everybody looks for their interests.
 
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First of all I would like to say that India is not some 1000 year old civilization like some stupid BJP nationalists like to say.

The Vedic civilization is the earliest civilization in the history of ancient India. It is named after the Vedas, the early literature of the Hindu people. The Vedic Civilization flourished along the river Saraswati, in a region that now consists of the modern Indian states of Haryana and Punjab.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_India

Shaking my head, over 700,000 Indian terrorist army is oppressing, raping and killing non-Arab Kashmiri muslims for over 70 years and look at what the Arabs have done.

Oh how I wish the Ottomans was still an empire today, there is only one nation in the middle east that are our true blood brothers only one the Turks.

The Ottoman empire indiscriminately exploited its colonies and imposed exorbitant taxation.
Shame on you to be wishing for going back to slavery.
 
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Excellent news.

Bangladesh will wholeheartedly welcome India.

Indian servants dont have any choice

There are more than 200 million Muslims in India. And Kashmiri Muslims are only 5% of Indian Muslim population. More importantly Kashmir is basically a water dispute between India and Pakistan. It's not a religious war. So comparing it with Palestine is oxymoron. I'm not saying they should gain OIC membership however I also do not see any major reasons that why they shouldn't .

Lets make Israel and Myanmar members too, after all they both have significant Muslim populations too.

Whats that? Oppression? no those are just minor land disputes not a religious issue.
 
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The Vedic civilization is the earliest civilization in the history of ancient India. It is named after the Vedas, the early literature of the Hindu people. The Vedic Civilization flourished along the river Saraswati, in a region that now consists of the modern Indian states of Haryana and Punjab.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_India
Wow, don't go to wikipedia. Don't let the Indians brainwash you because they have 1.3 billion people so they think they can shout louder than us.

Even Pakistan has a 5000 year old history with the Indus River Valley civilization.

Republic of India was created in 1947 like Pakistan was.

Seriously do you know what you are talking about?

Its so moronic, lol they are counting Mehrgarh, Balochistan to be part of India's history according to wikipedia?

How fcuking moronic!

Balochistan is not part of India.

DON'T GO TO WIKIPEDIA.

ITS FULL OF LIES!

Go to Britannica encyclopedia which says Indus River Valley Civilization happened in Pakistan mostly.

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Alternative Titles: Harappān civilization, Indus valley civilization
Indus civilization, also called Indus valley civilization or Harappan civilization, the earliest known urban culture of the Indian subcontinent. The nuclear dates of the civilization appear to be about 2500–1700 BCE, though the southern sites may have lasted later into the 2nd millennium BCE.

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While the Indus (or Harappan) civilization may be considered the culmination of a long process indigenous to the Indus valley, a number of parallels exist between developments on the Indus River and the rise of civilization in Mesopotamia. It is…

The civilization was first identified in 1921 at Harappa in the Punjab region and then in 1922 at Mohenjo-daro (Mohenjodaro), near the Indus River in the Sindh (Sind) region. Both sites are in present-day Pakistan, in Punjab and Sindh provinces, respectively. The ruins of Mohenjo-daro were designated a UNESCO World Heritage site in 1980.

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Indus civilizationAn overview of the Indus civilization.Encyclopædia Britannica, Inc.
Subsequently, vestiges of the civilization were found as far apart as Sutkagen Dor in southwestern Balochistan province, Pakistan, near the shore of the Arabian Sea, about 300 miles (480 km) west of Karachi; and at Ropar (or Rupar), in eastern Punjab state, northwestern India, at the foot of the Shimla Hills some 1,000 miles (1,600 km) northeast of Sutkagen Dor. Later exploration established its existence southward down the west coast of India as far as the Gulf of Khambhat (Cambay), 500 miles (800 km) southeast of Karachi, and as far east as the Yamuna (Jumna) River basin, 30 miles (50 km) north of Delhi. It is thus decidedly the most extensive of the world’s three earliest civilizations; the other two are those of Mesopotamia and Egypt, both of which began somewhat before it.

The Indus civilization is known to have consisted of two large cities, Harappa and Mohenjo-daro, and more than 100 towns and villages, often of relatively small size. The two cities were each perhaps originally about 1 mile (1.6 km) square in overall dimensions, and their outstanding magnitude suggests political centralization, either in two large states or in a single great empire with alternativecapitals, a practice having analogies in Indian history. It is also possible that Harappa succeeded Mohenjo-daro, which is known to have been devastated more than once by exceptional floods. The southern region of the civilization, on the Kathiawar Peninsula and beyond, appears to be of later origin than the major Indus sites. The civilization was literate, and its script, with some 250 to 500 characters, has been partly and tentatively deciphered; the language has been indefinitely identified as Dravidian.

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Mohenjo-daroPortion of the ruins at the Mohenjo-daro archaeological site, southeastern Pakistan.© Yousaf Fayyaz/Fotolia
The Indus civilization apparently evolved from the villages of neighbours or predecessors, using the Mesopotamian model of irrigated agriculture with sufficient skill to reap the advantages of the spacious and fertile Indus River valley while controlling the formidable annual flood that simultaneously fertilizes and destroys. Having obtained a secure foothold on the plain and mastered its more immediate problems, the new civilization, doubtless with a well-nourished and increasing population, would find expansion along the flanks of the great waterways an inevitable sequel. The civilization subsisted primarily by farming, supplemented by an appreciable but often elusivecommerce. Wheat and six-row barley were grown; field peas, mustard, sesame, and a few date stones have also been found, as well as some of the earliest known traces of cotton. Domesticated animals included dogs and cats, humped and shorthorn cattle, domestic fowl, and possibly pigs, camels, and buffalo. The Asian elephant probably was also domesticated, and its ivory tusks were freely used. Minerals, unavailable from the alluvial plain, were sometimes brought in from far afield. Gold was imported from southern India or Afghanistan, silver and copper from Afghanistan or northwestern India (present-day Rajasthan state), lapis lazuli from Afghanistan, turquoise from Iran (Persia), and a jadelike fuchsite from southern India.

Perhaps the best-known artifacts of the Indus civilization are a number of small seals, generally made of steatite (a form of talc), which are distinctive in kind and unique in quality, depicting a wide variety of animals, both real—such as elephants, tigers, rhinoceros, and antelopes—and fantastic, often composite creatures. Sometimes human forms are included. A few examples of Indus stone sculpture have also been found, usually small and representing humans or gods. There are great numbers of small terra-cotta figures of animals and humans.

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Indus civilization: sealsAssortment of seals with animal motifs in use during the time of the Indus civilization, 2nd–3rd millennium BCE.Copyright J.M. Kenoyer/Harappa.com; Courtesy Department of Archaeology and Museums, Government of Pakistan
How and when the civilization came to an end remains uncertain. In fact, no uniform ending need be postulated for a culture so widely distributed. But the end of Mohenjo-daro is known and was dramatic and sudden. Mohenjo-daro was attacked toward the middle of the 2nd millennium BCE by raiders who swept over the city and then passed on, leaving the dead lying where they fell. Who the attackers were is matter for conjecture. The episode would appear to be consistent in time and place with the earlier invaders from the north (formerly called Aryans) into the Indus region as reflected in the older books of the Rigveda, in which the newcomers are represented as attacking the “walled cities” or “citadels” of the aboriginal peoples and the invaders’ war-god Indra as rending forts “as age consumes a garment.” However, one thing is clear: the city was already in an advanced stage of economic and social decline before it received the coup de grâce. Deep floods had more than once submerged large tracts of it. Houses had become increasingly shoddy in construction and showed signs of overcrowding. The final blow seems to have been sudden, but the city was already dying. As the evidence stands, the civilization was succeeded in the Indus valley by poverty-stricken cultures, deriving a little from a sub-Indus heritage but also drawing elements from the direction of Iran and the Caucasus—from the general direction, in fact, of the northern invasions. For many centuries urban civilization was dead in the northwest of the Indian subcontinent.

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Indus civilization: cooking potsHarappan cooking pots in use during the Indus civilization, c. 2300–2200 BCE.Copyright J.M. Kenoyer/Harappa.com; Courtesy Department of Archaeology and Museums, Government of Pakistan
In the south, however, in Kathiawar and beyond, the situation appears to have been very different. There it would seem that there was a real cultural continuity between the late Indus phase and the Copper Age cultures that characterized central and western India between 1700 and the 1st millennium BCE. Those cultures form a material bridge between the end of the Indus civilization proper and the developed Iron Age civilization that arose in India about 1000 BCE.

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Site overview of Mohenjo-daro, eastern Pakistan.Frederick M. Asher


Britannica encyclopedia says Indus River Valley Civilization happened mostly in Pakistan.

Don't go to wikipedia. Wikipedia is trash and anyone can edit it.

Even Universities and Colleges do not use wikipedia for professional papers.
 
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Pakistan should take some actions against UAE.

Why is UAE doing this? This is because they are bigger puppets of Israelis and US than KSA.

All is being done by US.

They are breaking OIC now.

Because we went there with a begging bowl..and beggars cannot be choosers..as simple as that...Her speech was good..and did not mention Pakistan but made indirect attacks..FM Qureshi could have attended and made indirect references to Kul Bhushan and indian caste system in response of diversity claim in a tit for tat move...missed opportunity..Also we have been sucking up to Arabs too much rather than building our own competencies. We should compete on advantage rather than butt kissing...its a shame that India despite its challenges of huge population has progressed so far while we are still begging for aid..

SM Qureshi could have attended and proposed Vatican for observer status..this is also building inter religious harmony..

Wow, don't go to wikipedia. Don't let the Indians brainwash you because they have 1.3 billion people so they think they can shout louder than us.

Even Pakistan has a 5000 year old history with the Indus River Valley civilization.

Agree with you but point in case is discussing Indian history...no need to bring comparison at every opportunity...not all Indian culture evolved from Indus valley..rather there were many civilizations over Indian-Subcontinent.
 
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We need to learn to stand on our own 2 feet.
There are no brothers.
There are no friends.
There is no Ummah.
No one will stand with us when the chips are down.
We live and die as Pakistanis, for Pakistan, with Pakistan.
 
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Nope Israel is not an alternate to India. Sorry bro not gonna happen. Secondly please don't bring Israel into every thing and relax.
what is your gripe with Israelis

Pakistan should take some actions against UAE.

Why is UAE doing this? This is because they are bigger puppets of Israelis and US than KSA.

All is being done by US.

They are breaking OIC now.
you have a million workers in UAE. You can ask them to stop working :pakistan:

We should start with Pakistan, Turkey, and Iran. It needs to be done. We need to create a bloc of Muslim countries as a bulwark against Western intervention. Our foreign policies need to be coordinated.

Iran does not want to have anything to do with Turkey or Pakistan. Just an observation
 
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Because we went there with a begging bowl..and beggars cannot be choosers..as simple as that...Her speech was good..and did not mention Pakistan but made indirect attacks..FM Qureshi could have attended and made indirect references to Kul Bhushan and indian caste system in response of diversity claim in a tit for tat move...missed opportunity..Also we have been sucking up to Arabs too much rather than building our own competencies. We should compete on advantage rather than butt kissing...its a shame that India despite its challenges of huge population has progressed so far while we are still begging for aid..

SM Qureshi could have attended and proposed Vatican for observer status..this is also building inter religious harmony..



Agree with you but point in case is discussing Indian history...no need to bring comparison at every opportunity...not all Indian culture evolved from Indus valley..rather there were many civilizations over Indian-Subcontinent.
Don't even use the term "Indian Subcontinent." We are not Indians.

NEVER use the term "Indian Subcontinent."

We are Pakistanis. use the term "South Asia" or "Asian Subcontinent."
 
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what is your gripe with Israelis


you have a million workers in UAE. You can ask them to stop working :pakistan:



Iran does not want to have anything to do with Turkey or Pakistan. Just an observation

The same that entire humanity has with them. Stop innocent killing.
 
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The same that entire humanity has with them. Stop innocent killing.

if that is the yardstick there are scores of regimes with more blood on their hands
pakistan does business with many of them
 
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Didn't the Muslims had multi dimensional dealings with the Jews back in the Caliphate days?

The Jews weren't persecuting the Muslim, so having a relationship in that period was acceptable. Furthermore, there's a big difference between ordinary jews and the Zionists that believe in the state of Israel who are prosecuting the Palestinians. Some of the nicest people in this world are jews. Noam Chomsky, illan pappe, Norman Finklestein are such examples. Pakistan must stick by the moral code and not sell ourselves to the real enemy.
 
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