Indian Army's importance has diminished because of lack of wars in 40-50 years: Manohar Parrikar

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Good you realise you wont win.

Transporting dead soldiers on truck is still better than calling your shaaheds as terrorists and not accepting their bodies in 99.

Apparently indians don't have any respect for their fallen nor others nor any shame lyin through their teeth...

indian army posts videos of body exchange ceremonies from Kargil which idiots like yourself relabel and boast about ... Yet when it doesn't suite your objective you lie shamelessly..

But than again you are people who transport their dead on garbage trucks,report fake battles by destroyin their own bunkers and playing dead enemy troops to get medals and even find a way to do corruption in coffin scandal.. So anything can be expected from you.

 

[third eye]

There have been no wars BECAUSE of the Army.

When will a minister & ungrateful nation realise it ?

 

[tsinga]

Most Indians don't know the name of the CoAS or what he looks like. That is because the army & its chief have no impact on the lives of most people because those who do are all civilian.That comes from democracy having deep roots & the armed forces not being present in normal life in people's faces. The army then get attention only in times of disaster or conflict. I don't believe there are many Indians who prefer it any other way.

Could not have put it better.

The Army does not affect Indians in peace time at all except for some major calamity.
They come in the spot light only during wars.

It is the natural order of things.

And always drag in 1971 to salvage their pride, without any comprehension on what happened to their army in Sri Lanka under much better circumstances. Imagine if there was no PDF, what would these Internet warriors go for gloating.

There is no need to salvage pride when it is there all around.

We've beaten Pakistan again and again and spoiled its plans. Pakistan being the only country in South Asia to consistently(means repeatedly) lose the territory it has or claims since 1948!

And that's just how we prefer things!

 

[Windjammer]

There is no need to salvage pride when it is there all around.

We've beaten Pakistan again and again and spoiled its plans. Pakistan being the only country in South Asia to consistently(means repeatedly) lose the territory it has or claims since 1948!

And that's just how we prefer things!

We have all heard the story of the village idiot who found a glass and wanted to make full use of it, eventually he killed himself by drinking excessive amount of water or the famous old.... empty vessels and more noise, ...you Indians represent these to the full extent. Your own defence minister issues a statement on the standing of IA in public eyes but the weekend warriors needed to drag in Pakistan. Wonder how many times do the Chinese need to mention that they gave you a bloody nose or how the LTTE butchered and humiliated your army when you had full air support from IAF. Do you have no shame how in recent times, twice you couldn't manage to blink an army 1/3rd your size and after a soul destroying 10 months on the border, you had to retreat from the border, again in 2008, after all the bravado, upon realising how PAF was poised to hit back, your much larger air force had to stand down. But hey, forget all that, let's drag in 1971, which happened before our times and not even realising under what hopeless conditions did the PA was left to fight.....even then you needed Muktis to fight along you. !!

 

[Guynextdoor2]

Indian members here on PDF need to learn a lot specially that blind Nationalism will only harm you in the long run. This is most displayed when Indians in their miserable attempts try to defend failed projects like LCA and Arjun.

That's a lesson YOU have to learn first

 

[Infinity]

I believe unlike other countries who have their emergency services, India like Pakistan also relies on the army during natural disasters.

No...............We have our emergency services............have you heard of National Disaster Response Force, Civil Defence, Home Guards, Fire Cell : Government of India

 

[Guynextdoor2]

We have all heard the story of the village idiot who found a glass and wanted to make full use of it, eventually he killed himself by drinking excessive amount of water or the famous old.... empty vessels and more noise, ...you Indians represent these to the full extent. Your own defence minister issues a statement on the standing of IA in public eyes but the weekend warriors needed to drag in Pakistan. Wonder how many times do the Chinese need to mention that they gave you a bloody nose or how the LTTE butchered and humiliated your army when you had full air support from IAF. Do you have no shame how in recent times, twice you couldn't manage to blink an army 1/3rd your size and after a soul destroying 10 months on the border, you had to retreat from the border, again in 2008, after all the bravado, upon realising how PAF was poised to hit back, your much larger air force had to stand down. But hey, forget all that, let's drag in 1971, which happened before our times and not even realising under what hopeless conditions did the PA was left to fight.....even then you needed Muktis to fight along you. !!

Wind breaker at it again. If you're country was so great why aren't you there instead of banging out these inflated talks online?

 

[Stephen Cohen]

We have all heard the story of the village idiot who found a glass and wanted to make full use of it, eventually he killed himself by drinking excessive amount of water or the famous old.... empty vessels and more noise, ...you Indians represent these to the full extent. Your own defence minister issues a statement on the standing of IA in public eyes but the weekend warriors needed to drag in Pakistan. Wonder how many times do the Chinese need to mention that they gave you a bloody nose or how the LTTE butchered and humiliated your army when you had full air support from IAF. Do you have no shame how in recent times, twice you couldn't manage to blink an army 1/3rd your size and after a soul destroying 10 months on the border, you had to retreat from the border, again in 2008, after all the bravado, upon realising how PAF was poised to hit back, your much larger air force had to stand down. But hey, forget all that, let's drag in 1971, which happened before our times and not even realising under what hopeless conditions did the PA was left to fight.....even then you needed Muktis to fight along you. !!

You always talk of 2002 and 2008

Dont worry we will get you next time

You know that it will HAPPEN one day it is inevitable

Why in so much hurry

In fact the covert response after 2008 has been very effective

Today's Pakistan is in much worse shape than in 2008

Just look at your losses AFTER 2008

2008 Mumbai did not help you at all ; you gained nothing
In fact now we have NO second thoughts about covert operations

And there MANY people in Pakistan who are seeking RAW's help

 

[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

93,000 no it was actually 93 million ... And it didn't include cops,civilians,govt officials ..

As for last man .. Your POWs in our jails tell a different tale.

93000 soldiers, para military and police force.All who can shoot.

Apparently indians don't have any respect for their fallen nor others nor any shame lyin through their teeth...

indian army posts videos of body exchange ceremonies from Kargil which idiots like yourself relabel and boast about ... Yet when it doesn't suite your objective you lie shamelessly..

But than again you are people who transport their dead on garbage trucks,report fake battles by destroyin their own bunkers and playing dead enemy troops to get medals and even find a way to do corruption in coffin scandal.. So anything can be expected from you.

Better than soldiers running away and being the fastest runners.6th balouch surrendering.SSG surrendering...the whole PA headquarters surrendering in 71 in dhaka.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

93000 soldiers, para military and police force.All who can shoot.


Better than soldiers running away and being the fastest runners.6th balouch surrendering.SSG surrendering...the whole PA headquarters surrendering in 71 in dhaka.

Army total deployment : 34,000

Casualties in actual war :4000+

Excluding during the 9th month of civil war .



Police : 10-15k

Rest included : give officials,clerics,doc,nurses,civilians included women and children...


Go through the interview of your own Gen shaw.

 

[anant_s]

If i find an Army jawan standing in train, i'll share my berth with him.
If an army vehicle wants to overtake my car, i'll be happy to allow him.
If (&when) government asks us to donate for army, i'll be the first one to share part of my salary.
The list can go on, but as ordinary citizens of country there is an inherent respect for the people who protect us and ask very little or nothing in return.
At least in India, armed forces have never interfered in democracy, infact they are one of important reasons for its strength. In Kargil Armed forces didn't cross LoC as advised by government. even when it knew, the heavy cost it would have to pay for this strategy, still it obliged.
as @nair has already said in one of his posts, DM's statement can be interpreted in any manner one desires, the fact remains Armed forces in India remain a faceless Hero, but a hero nonetheless.

 

[Abingdonboy]

What is wrong with this guy? Every week his big mouth causes a new controversy, is it so hard to either shut up or be more conservative in your comments?

Modi's ministers are causing controversy after controversy, they are undermining the government and scuttling his overall agenda of development. This is just getting ridiculous now, with every passing week it looks like Parrikar is out of his depth and in the wrong position.

 

[Areesh]

If you have problem in understanding his statement, do read my post..... Even after that you feel like trolling..... then enjoy it....

Yeah I have read your post. And still it is dumb. People don't give importance to our military, since we have not fought any war since last 4 decades.

that is one dumb statement. People all over the world respect their soldiers irrespective of a war or not. You don't need a war to gain importance and respect.

 

[anant_s]

What is wrong with this guy? Every week his big mouth causes a new controversy, is it so hard to either shut up or be more conservative in your comments?

Modi's ministers are causing controversy after controversy, they are undermining the government and scuttling his overall agenda of development. This is just getting ridiculous now, with every passing week it looks like Parrikar is out of his depth and in the wrong position.

Initially i thought, its the lack of Hindi that is leading to statements by DM that are becoming controversial.
In his position, he really must be careful with the choice of words. A person of his intellect, surely must know power of words and more importantly power of silence at times.

 

[tsinga]

We have all heard the story of the village idiot who found a glass and wanted to make full use of it, eventually he killed himself by drinking excessive amount of water or the famous old.... empty vessels and more noise, ...you Indians represent these to the full extent. Your own defence minister issues a statement on the standing of IA in public eyes but the weekend warriors needed to drag in Pakistan. Wonder how many times do the Chinese need to mention that they gave you a bloody nose or how the LTTE butchered and humiliated your army when you had full air support from IAF. Do you have no shame how in recent times, twice you couldn't manage to blink an army 1/3rd your size and after a soul destroying 10 months on the border, you had to retreat from the border, again in 2008, after all the bravado, upon realising how PAF was poised to hit back, your much larger air force had to stand down. But hey, forget all that, let's drag in 1971, which happened before our times and not even realising under what hopeless conditions did the PA was left to fight.....even then you needed Muktis to fight along you. !!

You keep talking of your own stories about how x backed out or y backed out.

We talk about wars and about India repeatedly taking territory from Pakistan and then beating Pakistan Army!

I said, the dubious distinction of being the only country in South Asia to repeatedly lose territory is Pakistan. I don't know how Pakistanis even have the courage to talk about their Army which has been an utter failure!