Indian Army’s Artillery modernisation Plans on Track. 60 KM range light artillery is in making.

[GURU DUTT]

And isn't infiltrating terrorists prohibited too? Let's not act like saints. It's now an eye for an eye. Enough of Gandhian principles of turning the other cheek. Times have changed!

We have the targets, which are terror training camps and launch pads across the LoC/IB. The other side has no targets except villages on the Indian side which they would be loathe to target as it can have international ramifications due to civilian casualties.

themain concern of pakistani establishment is the basic change in indian policy in handling terror orignation from pakistani soil and to test indian resolve they did a few such ceasefire voilations when they to sneak terrorists in india undercover of heavy mortars fire against civillian areas in india but when they got " highly dispropotionate" response from indian side they are talking peace

now the thread is about 60Km 52 cal "light artilerry gun system" which in all probabillity the tender will go to baba kalyani

How many countries have slapped sanctions against Pakistan for sponsoring violence in Kashmir? They started a war, they gave shelter to USA's most wanted man and USA is still giving them weapons and finance.

Politics is about interests not morality.

 

[OrionHunter]

Terrorist camps are not located 50-60 km from the border but deep inside Azad Kashmir. The terrorists march for days and weeks before crossing the border. If artillery barrage was the soltuion of everything then Indian army would have done it long back. The SMERCH has a range of 90 km. Other than igniting a local artillery duel an artillery barrage won't achieve much. If their camps are hreatened then the terrorists will simply shift camps - a simple and economic solution. Artillery on he other hand cannot be moved around like that.

It is surprising that a person like you who claim to have a military service background are being so naive here.

Have you even bothered to check out the locations? Launch pads are bang near the border/LoC. Camps are within arty range.

Here's what I'm meaning....

Terror Camps in Pakistan

 

[Narendra Damodar Modi]

now the thread is about 60Km 52 cal "light artilerry gun system" which in all probabillity the tender will go to baba kalyani

Baba Kalyani?
We are talking about DRDO ATAGS here. Baba has only purchased and up-gunned Swedish GHN-45.

 

[Indian Patriot]

Have you even bothered to check out the locations? Launch pads are bang near the border/LoC. Camps are within arty range.

And launch pads are fixed concrete structures with running water, electricity, telephone connection and internet, attached bathrooms, kitchen and other household amenities right?

Just like the camps the terror pads are just places on the map which can be moved in very short notice. Why do you think the army faces such a big problem in tackling infiltration? Because the LOC is huge and the terrorists can move frequently and cross he border from any one point. And several news articles have reported that terrorists infiltrate in small groups of 8-12. They don't come by hundreds. I am not army but I think I can say with assurity hat no army in the world will fire artillery shells to kill 8-12 targets. For someone like you with fours years experience, as you said, you have much to learn.

If camps are withing arty range why are they not shelled? Shelling along the LOC has been going for decades.

 

[OrionHunter]

And launch pads are fixed concrete structures with running water, electricity, telephone connection and internet, attached bathrooms, kitchen and other household amenities right?

Just like the camps the terror pads are just places on the map which can be moved in very short notice. Why do you think the army faces such a big problem in tackling infiltration? Because the LOC is huge and the terrorists can move frequently and cross he border from any one point. And several news articles have reported that terrorists infiltrate in small groups of 8-12. They don't come by hundreds. I am not army but I think I can say with assurity hat no army in the world will fire artillery shells to kill 8-12 targets. For someone like you with fours years experience, as you said, you have much to learn.

If camps are withing arty range why are they not shelled? Shelling along the LOC has been going for decades.

You know squat what you are talking about!

Did I ever mention that 'launch pads' have fixed structures? Your imagination seems to be running wild.

Secondly, one doesn't only fire at camps (which do have fixed structures) but the posts from where they are launched too.

And then the IFGs don't have the range as the Bofors etc.

 

[Indian Patriot]

You know squat what you are talking about!

Did I ever mention that 'launch pads' have fixed structures? Your imagination seems to be running wild.

Secondly, one doesn't only fire at camps (which do have fixed structures) but the posts from where they are launched too.

Your ignorance is coming out in every post.

Launch pads as well as terror camps do not have fixed locations. They constantly keep moving and hence they are so difficult to track and destroy. And like a novice you claim that long-range artillery would be the solution.

Camps do not have fixed structures, don't be so ignorant in your comments. The point of having a camp is that hey are mobile. We are talking about terrorist training camps not military academies.

 

[OrionHunter]

Your ignorance is coming out in every post.

Launch pads as well as terror camps do not have fixed locations. They constantly keep moving and hence they are so difficult to track and destroy. And like a novice you claim that long-range artillery would be the solution.

Camps do not have fixed structures, don't be so ignorant in your comments. The point of having a camp is that hey are mobile. We are talking about terrorist training camps not military academies.

So you've come back after being banned and rapped on the knuckles?

Seeing your fantastic knowledge you should have been the National Security Adviser as well as the adviser to the Chief of Army Staff on military matters as well as the adviser to the director general of military operations. Why are you wasting everyone's time on PDF?

 

[GURU DUTT]

Baba Kalyani?
We are talking about DRDO ATAGS here. Baba has only purchased and up-gunned Swedish GHN-45.

do you realli think DRDO/chai biskit DODO's can realli make something like that on there own ?

 

[Narendra Damodar Modi]

do you realli think DRDO/chai biskit DODO's can realli make something like that on there own ?

I repeat - this is a DRDO project. There is no 'tender' involved of any kind. Whether or not they can do it, Baba or anyone else have nothing to do with it.
BTW Baba have only up-gunned an existing gun. They are behind even DRDO.

 

[Indian Patriot]

So you've come back after being banned and rapped on the knuckles?

Wow, such an intelligent comment and so very relevant to the topic. Speak for yourself kid, unlike you I don't claim to be a defence personnel with a 4 year record. I hope now you realise where Dimapur is located; the same place you claim to have been "posted" for four years and yet you don't know whether it is in Assam or Nagaland.

Seeing your fantastic knowledge you should have been the National Security Adviser as well as the adviser to the Chief of Army Staff on military matters as well as the adviser to the director general of military operations. Why are you wasting everyone's time on PDF?

I am an Indian civilian and I can post anywhere I like. This right has been guaranteed to me by the Constitution of India. But tell me why is a so-called ex-army like you spending time in a Pakistani defence forum?

It is bad enough that despite your "four years" of experience you were not considered eligible to be either in the NSA or adviser to COAS. But at least have the basic civility to respect the opinion of others who post in a public forum.

If you disagree with their views then debate, do not sulk and divert the topic. Capiche?

BTW Baba have only up-gunned an existing gun. They are behind even DRDO

How many decades did it take DRDO to upgrade a gun and how many years did it take "baba"?

 

[Narendra Damodar Modi]

DRDO to upgrade a gun

which gun?

 

[Indian Patriot]

which gun?

A 155 mm arty gun. Even now as in 2015 DRDO is yet to come up with a working model. How many more years do hey need?

 

[GURU DUTT]

I repeat - this is a DRDO project. There is no 'tender' involved of any kind. Whether or not they can do it, Baba or anyone else have nothing to do with it.
BTW Baba have only up-gunned an existing gun. They are behind even DRDO.

you may be right but even these DODOs have onli upgunned a three decade old swedish system so how are they any better ?

 

[Narendra Damodar Modi]

A

Which 'A'.. Name the gun

 

[Indian Patriot]

DRDO claims to have at last reverse engineered he Bofors. Let's see how that thing of heirs work.

If only the Bofors scandal was unearthed after all the 1500 guns were delivered.