Indian army suicides blamed on 'poor leadership'

[Laughing_soldier]

More than 1300 suicides in just 11 years. Oh boy!!!

this makes indian army a lot more pathetic than their Pakistani counterparts !

92000 surrendered after just 2 days of war. shame.

 

[harpoon]

But still they don't commit suicides nor they kill each other. Unlike their "rich" Indian counterparts.

No they just surrender en masse to Insurgents and Foreign Armies.

That was real funny man.

Do you know the salary of an IA jawan?..Its 25,000.00 Indian Rupees which is equal to 42,407.01 Pakistani Rupees

How much does a Lieutanant in Pakistan Army earns btw?

They (PA) gets discounts on house plots and at regular intervals get to rule the country.

 

[janon]

1)What gloating. I just posted a news about your army in Indian defense section which you guys wouldn't have posted ever. I neither gloat at their death nor I am happy over it. It might be a small figure if we look at the percentage you calculated but still it is a big figure. And the reason is the "poor leadership". Do something about it instead of attacking the reporter.



But still they don't commit suicides nor they kill each other. Unlike their "rich" Indian counterparts.

1) Nothing wrong with posting the news. The gloating comment was directed at the one who did the gloating.

2) That was a response by another member to another pakistani member who asserted (baselessly) that poverty and "humiliation of parents by landlords" was the reason for suicides.

No they just surrender en masse to Insurgents and Foreign Armies.



They (PA) gets discounts on house plots and at regular intervals get to rule the country.

Well, the generals get to rule the country. The jawans fight whoever they are ordered to fight - sometimes foreigners, sometimes their own people, sometimes their politicians, sometimes their judiciary. Their lives don't get any better when their generals rule the country.

 

[Areesh]

92000 surrendered after just 2 days of war. shame.

Haha you are banned. Loser.

No they just surrender en masse to Insurgents and Foreign Armies.

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But still they don't follow royal tradition of suicides and killing their own mates.

 

[Saif_ullah]

What is starting salary of a lieutenant in Indian army?

40000 pm

What is the salary of Pakistan army lieutenant?

Not more than 30000

one Indian rupee = 1.70228037 Pakistan rupees

That's 68,000 Pakistani rupees. An Indian soldier's salary is 2.27 times that of his Pakistani counterpart.

Next time when you call an Indian soldier poor keep these figures in mind!




India had land reforms after Independence, there are NO landlords in India. Feudalism is a characteristic of Pakistani society in the 21st century.

Again, know what you write!

I think they are commiting suicide becoz they are very rich

 

[harpoon]

But still they don't follow royal tradition of suicides and killing their own mates.

Yeah whatever floats your boat.

 

[Dark Warrior]

Nothing extraordinary.
1362 suicides in 11 years means 12.38 suicides per 100,000 per year.
Whereas US Military's suicide rate is 18.8 per 100,000 per year.

 

[Rusty]

typical Indian troll brigade response. They attack the poster, the author and everyone in between but they never seem to respond to the topic.

 

[fd24]

I think India isnt unique in having issues in suicide rates in its army.
Just remember a soldiers duties are ones that are extremely stressful and one that most of us wouldnt venture near. To put on your uniform in the morning and venture into the land not knowing if its going to be your last day must be incredibly hard to combat day to day. You can imagine the stress and combination of the other related things resulting in the jawaans stepping over the mark.
Perhaps the army should recruit people who are qualified to note the ones that are close to the edge. More should be done to care for their mindset so their families dont lose them

 

[Windjammer]

Nothing extraordinary.
1362 suicides in 11 years means 12.38 suicides per 100,000 per year.
Whereas US Military's suicide rate is 18.8 per 100,000 per year.

So basically, if they are happening within the US Military, it's acceptable in the Indian army as well .

Alarming Suicide Rate Amongst Indians

During my recent visit to India I came across some interesting news, which has been in my mind ever since. For the Indian media it was not that important - they printed it in some corner in the inside pages, to fill some empty space, while the electronic media did not bother to report it at all.
I am talking about the high suicide rate among India's central forces that guard its border and look after its internal security. This rate is also very high among India's farmers, who feed the country.

Of the two, news about suicides on India's farms have been doing the rounds for some time now, but what I found surprising is that it is also very high in the security forces.

Media reports note that every 30 minutes, a farmer commits suicide in India.

Following is, further, the number of suicides by security forces: 38 suicides in CRPF (Central Reserve Police Force - like our own RCMP in Canada); 36 suicides in BSF (Border Security Force); 11 in SSB (Sashastra Seema Bal - Armed Border Force); 10 in CISS (Central Industrial Security Force); 8 in Assam Rifles; 4 in ITBP (Indo-Tibetan Border Police); and 2 suicides in NSG (National Security Guard).

The above figures are for the first 10 months of 2011 (so the number would likely have grown by year-end) from a combined personnel strength of less than 500,000. The figure does not include the personnel from the regular Army, Air Force and Navy; it also does not include the numbers from fratricide, or family murders.

Further, more than 8,500 personnel opted for VRS (Voluntary Retirement Scheme) because they were unable to cope with the workplace environment, and persuaded themselves to opt for VRS rather than commit suicide.

The question that arises is whether it is the Government of India that is to blame, or whether it is the pressure from the new economic revolution in India.

Whatever be the cause, I myself feel it is the human mind that decides to take the fatal step of taking one's own life, perhaps due to depression. But why?

In the Hindu religion, life is defined as a roller-coaster ride with many ups and downs. It is up to the individual mind to take the pressure - though, like in the ride, one has to buckle up and face it with pleasure, in positive spirit.

It is easy to say that life is a reality. But many times one gets the feeling of being helpless. The situation gets beyond the individual's control. This is the time when one's inner self guides one to control the individual's mind. As in the Bhagwat Gita Lord Krishna told Arjun: "Do your duty (Karma) to the best of your ability and leave the rest to Destiny which will follow you automatically."

I always remember that when one's favourite door shuts down, Destiny opens another door for you. And I always believe that whatever happens your way, might also happen for the best for you. So why must one take one's life?

Thoughts generate action, which create reaction. When one concludes that he or she has no purpose to live, that defeatist thought generates the reaction for suicide.

That, I believe, is the job environment in the Indian security forces, or of the farmers' poor conditions, which lead to such high suicide rates. There is meanwhile no meaningful or sympathetic guidance from the Defence authorities, when defending the country overrides the security personnel's personal welfare. And in similar fashion, there is no direct or indirect social/family support to farmers.

Every individual wants happiness. The secret of happiness is that one must first accept that happiness is a journey and not a destination. To be happy one must appreciate the beauty of life. Appreciate the present and live for today only.

Life is not perfect. There is grief and sadness all around. But the mind has to accept the fact that life's ups and downs must not crush the soul, or being in a helpless situation should not hold up our 'Karma'.

These are my views. But in respect of the security personnel who took their lives, had the Government of India/Defence Department acted rightfully and empathetically, these souls, who volunteered for their country, would have been saved.

But the politicians and bureaucrats couldn't care less. There is no debate in Parliament, no comment in media. Their own concern is mafia-style corruption and materialistic happiness for themselves.

Article on song | South Asian Focus

 

[Ignited Mind]

^^ Honey, Indians are amont the happiest people in the world. So just quit it.

...and any rational person will tell you that happiness is all that matters in the world.

Indians among world's happiest people: Poll - The Times of India

 

[third eye]

typical Indian troll brigade response. They attack the poster, the author and everyone in between but they never seem to respond to the topic.

It was the ludicrous post at No 6 I think which trigggered of the avalance.

 

[Dark Warrior]

Yes,US army the world's most professional army is the role model for every army.
Last year suicides were down to just 99 in the Indian Army.

“As many as 99 Army personnel committed suicide last year, while 65 were killed in security operations. Of the 99, 23 cases were registered in field areas and 76 in peace areas,” Army officials said, adding that the number of personnel committing suicide has gone down over the years

Indian Army Suicides.

Even in the CRPF and BSF suicide rate was around 15-15.1 which is still lower than both US Army and US Marines.

So I don't see anything extra worrying.
But yes I would like to see even lower rates.

 

[Ignited Mind]

Yes,US army the world's most professional army is the role model for every army.

The US Army is the world's most technologically advanced Army.

When it comes to professionalism, there are many armies in the world which have had a superlative record.

Indian Army
British Army
Russian Army
Pakistan Army

These are some of the most professional armies other than the US army.

 

[Windjammer]

^^ Honey, Indians are amont the happiest people in the world. So just quit it.

...and any rational person will tell you that happiness is all that matters in the world.

Indians among world's happiest people: Poll - The Times of India

There you go sweetie, some credible source than your TOIlet survey.

Pakistanis happier than Indians: Gallup survey