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India’s new Modern Submachine Carbine (MSMC) and 5.56×30mm Ammunition
*The 5.56mm calibre MSMC will replace the Russian 9mm-calibre carbine currently used by the Indian Army and paramilitary forces.
*ARDE director Anil M Datar said the company was in process of demonstrating 99.7% reliability for the MSMC, which can fire up to 200m.
*MSMC Carbine will Replace old STEN and UZI Derivates as a PDW for tank crews and CQB and Officer Weapon.
City-based Armaments Research and Development Establishment (ARDE) is giving the final touches to a modern sub-machine carbine (MSMC) for the Indian Army. The final trials for this 5.56 mm calibre MSMC will be conducted in December this year.
A carbine is a lightweight compact automatic gun with a small barrel; unlike a rifle it fires rapidly and is suitable for close quarter combats.
At present, the Indian Army, paramilitary forces, commandos and the police use a Russian origin 9 mm calibre carbine, which is fairly ancient.
“We are in the process of proving 99.7 per cent reliability for the MSMC. The user will be able to fire up to 200 metres using the MSMC,” said ARDE director Anil M Datar.
The MSMC programme has its origins in the Indian Small Arms System family, which was started in 1982 in a bid to build an indigenous small arms weapons system for India. By 1987, the ARDE had designed the Rifle, the Light Machine Gun (LMG) and the carbine — all part of the INSAS family.
The Army had inducted the INSAS rifle and LMG in 1993; DRDO scientists say it met with a fair amount of success but there were some defects as well, which came to light after the Kargil war.
“The rifle and the LMG was first put to test during Kargil. After that, based on the battlefield experiences, we developed a new version — the INSAS 1B1” said R S Rao, joint director, INSAS, ARDE.
But it was the INSAS carbine that fell through, right from the start. “For the carbine, the ammunition was very powerful. It had higher sound, flash, and recoil effect,” said S V Gade, joint director, INSAS, ARDE. “With the MSMC, we have now changed the length of the ammunition. It is still a 5.6 mm calibre bullet, but it is slightly shorter in length, thereby eliminating the drawbacks of the earlier carbine.”
Finally, the INSAS carbine plan was shelved and in 2002, the Army devised a new set of General Staff Qualitative Requirements (GSQR) for the new MSMC, he said.
“Since 2006, when the first prototype was devised, the MSMC has been put through every possible scenario that the Army could conceive of.”
The first trial of the prototype was held in 2006, then 2007-end and the last one was in January 2009.
'' 5.56×30mm INSAS ''
The firearm chambers a round developed in India called the 5.56×30mm. This round is sometimes referred to as the “5.56×30mm INSAS” after the first gun to chambered the round, the INSAS Carbine.
Low fragmentation results of 5.56x30mm
INSAS cartridge a round named the 5.56×30mm MARS developed by Colt during the 90’s as part of their now defunct Mini Assault Rifle project.The MARS cartridge/rifle was able to achieve similar ballistics as a ultra-short barreled 5.56×45mm NATO rifle ,but with less muzzle flash, noise and weight . The Indian went with the 5.56×30mm over the 5.56×45mm for these exact same reasons as Colt.
*The 5.56mm calibre MSMC will replace the Russian 9mm-calibre carbine currently used by the Indian Army and paramilitary forces.
*ARDE director Anil M Datar said the company was in process of demonstrating 99.7% reliability for the MSMC, which can fire up to 200m.
*MSMC Carbine will Replace old STEN and UZI Derivates as a PDW for tank crews and CQB and Officer Weapon.
City-based Armaments Research and Development Establishment (ARDE) is giving the final touches to a modern sub-machine carbine (MSMC) for the Indian Army. The final trials for this 5.56 mm calibre MSMC will be conducted in December this year.
A carbine is a lightweight compact automatic gun with a small barrel; unlike a rifle it fires rapidly and is suitable for close quarter combats.
At present, the Indian Army, paramilitary forces, commandos and the police use a Russian origin 9 mm calibre carbine, which is fairly ancient.
“We are in the process of proving 99.7 per cent reliability for the MSMC. The user will be able to fire up to 200 metres using the MSMC,” said ARDE director Anil M Datar.
The MSMC programme has its origins in the Indian Small Arms System family, which was started in 1982 in a bid to build an indigenous small arms weapons system for India. By 1987, the ARDE had designed the Rifle, the Light Machine Gun (LMG) and the carbine — all part of the INSAS family.
The Army had inducted the INSAS rifle and LMG in 1993; DRDO scientists say it met with a fair amount of success but there were some defects as well, which came to light after the Kargil war.
“The rifle and the LMG was first put to test during Kargil. After that, based on the battlefield experiences, we developed a new version — the INSAS 1B1” said R S Rao, joint director, INSAS, ARDE.
But it was the INSAS carbine that fell through, right from the start. “For the carbine, the ammunition was very powerful. It had higher sound, flash, and recoil effect,” said S V Gade, joint director, INSAS, ARDE. “With the MSMC, we have now changed the length of the ammunition. It is still a 5.6 mm calibre bullet, but it is slightly shorter in length, thereby eliminating the drawbacks of the earlier carbine.”
Finally, the INSAS carbine plan was shelved and in 2002, the Army devised a new set of General Staff Qualitative Requirements (GSQR) for the new MSMC, he said.
“Since 2006, when the first prototype was devised, the MSMC has been put through every possible scenario that the Army could conceive of.”
The first trial of the prototype was held in 2006, then 2007-end and the last one was in January 2009.
'' 5.56×30mm INSAS ''
The firearm chambers a round developed in India called the 5.56×30mm. This round is sometimes referred to as the “5.56×30mm INSAS” after the first gun to chambered the round, the INSAS Carbine.
Low fragmentation results of 5.56x30mm
INSAS cartridge a round named the 5.56×30mm MARS developed by Colt during the 90’s as part of their now defunct Mini Assault Rifle project.The MARS cartridge/rifle was able to achieve similar ballistics as a ultra-short barreled 5.56×45mm NATO rifle ,but with less muzzle flash, noise and weight . The Indian went with the 5.56×30mm over the 5.56×45mm for these exact same reasons as Colt.
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INSAS rifle
Insas mark 2
Insas Excalibre
Derived from the INSAS weapon systems, the INSAS Excalibur Mark-I is ergonomically designed with a folding butt and can be fitted with 20 and 30-round magazines. It is also fitted with a Picatinny rail for mounting of opto-electronic devices. The INSAS Excalibur variant, to be used by Special forces, has semi-automatic and full automatic fire modes.
MINSAS 5.56 mm personal carbine
short barrel commando version, 5.56 x 30 mm ammunition, for close quarter battle use.
Indian Modern Submachine Carbine (MSMC)
Insas bullpup
Insas mark 2
Insas Excalibre
Derived from the INSAS weapon systems, the INSAS Excalibur Mark-I is ergonomically designed with a folding butt and can be fitted with 20 and 30-round magazines. It is also fitted with a Picatinny rail for mounting of opto-electronic devices. The INSAS Excalibur variant, to be used by Special forces, has semi-automatic and full automatic fire modes.
MINSAS 5.56 mm personal carbine
short barrel commando version, 5.56 x 30 mm ammunition, for close quarter battle use.
Indian Modern Submachine Carbine (MSMC)
Insas bullpup
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Does the IA have barrel mounted grenade launchers?
M203 grenade launcher - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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* M-TAR
* T91 assault rifle
* M16A2
* AK47 and East German MPi-KM MPi-KMS72 7.62mmx39 mm
* Indian Army para commondo with M-4 or CAR-15 (Colt Commando)
* FN F2000 and FN P90- In use with SPG
^^FN P90
^^FN F2000
FN P90 (top) and FN F2000 (bottom)
* T91 assault rifle
* M16A2
* AK47 and East German MPi-KM MPi-KMS72 7.62mmx39 mm
* Indian Army para commondo with M-4 or CAR-15 (Colt Commando)
* FN F2000 and FN P90- In use with SPG
^^FN P90
^^FN F2000
FN P90 (top) and FN F2000 (bottom)
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Anyone has any idea if we have any plans to design cornershot rifles (non linear sight) ?
Currently IA has received 500 cornershots from Israel. Chinese ,korean russian and US army also uses them. China currently also uses locally made variants HD-66 and CF-66
Pakistan Army i think uses the local POF Eye made by Pakistan Ordnance factory. Video below
Israeli Cornershot
Currently IA has received 500 cornershots from Israel. Chinese ,korean russian and US army also uses them. China currently also uses locally made variants HD-66 and CF-66
Pakistan Army i think uses the local POF Eye made by Pakistan Ordnance factory. Video below
Israeli Cornershot
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My dear Indians friend; Impressive international small arms arsenal
AGS-17 Plamya.
Milan-2T ATGM
Nag missile and the Nag missile carrier (NAMICA).[edit] Handguns
FN Browning GP35 9mmx19 mm
SAF (Small Arms Factory) Pistol 1A 9mmx19 mm, This is more or less a copy of the Canadian Inglis 9 mm
Glock 17 9mmx19 mm, The Glock 19 along with the 17 is in use with the Special Protection Group (Prime Minister's Security)
[edit] Sub-machine guns and carbines
Heckler & Koch MP5A3 9mmx19 mm SMG
Heckler & Koch MP5K 9mmx19 mm SMG
SAF Carbine 1A 9mmx19 mm, Indian made Sterling L2A1 SMG
SAF Carbine 2A1 9mmx19 mm, Silenced Carbine
UZI 9mmx19 mm SMG
[edit] Assault rifles
AK-7, clone of the AK-47
INSAS 5.56mmx45 mm Assault Rifle
Zittara Indian version of the IMI Tavor TAR-21 Israeli Micro-Tavor
TAVOR TAR-21 5.56mmx45 mm, for special forces currently 3070 have been purchased from Israel [1]
AK-101
AK-103
AK47M1 7.62mmx39 mm, all black Bulgarian AK. Most of these have been imported for police and paramilitary forces
East German MPi-KM MPi-KMS72 7.62mmx39 mm
Czech Vz.58 and Vz.58P 7.62mmx39 mm
IMI Galil
M16A2
T91 assault rifle
M4
[edit] Grenades
Multi Mode Grenade Shivalik
[edit] Sniper rifles
Dragunov SVD59 7.62mmx54mmR Sniper Rifle
Mauser SP66 7.62mmx51 mm Sniper Rifle
Heckler & Koch MSG-90 7.62mmx51 mm Sniping Rifle. The H&K PSG-1 sniping rifle serves with the NSG anti-terrorist units while small numbers of the Steyr Mannlicher SSG69 serve with the para-military Border Security Force(BSF)
[edit] Machine guns
MG 1B 7.62mmx51 mm, Indian made Bren- This is currently being retired.
MG 2A1 7.62mmx51 mm, Indian made MAG 58
MG 5A 7.62mmx51 mm This is the Indian manufactured Co-axial MAG 58
MG 6A 7.62mmx51 mm Another Indian version of the MAG58 specifically designed as a tank commanders gun.
5.56mm INSAS LMG
FN-Browning M1919 .30Cal, in very limited quantities
Browning M2 heavy machine gun .50cal, heavy machine gun
7.62mm M60 machine gun
5.56mm IMI Negev light machine gun
12.7mm NSV (machine gun)
14.5mm KPV heavy machine gun
Just like to ask a question; Will this cause any maintenance problems?
AGS-17 Plamya.
Milan-2T ATGM
Nag missile and the Nag missile carrier (NAMICA).[edit] Handguns
FN Browning GP35 9mmx19 mm
SAF (Small Arms Factory) Pistol 1A 9mmx19 mm, This is more or less a copy of the Canadian Inglis 9 mm
Glock 17 9mmx19 mm, The Glock 19 along with the 17 is in use with the Special Protection Group (Prime Minister's Security)
[edit] Sub-machine guns and carbines
Heckler & Koch MP5A3 9mmx19 mm SMG
Heckler & Koch MP5K 9mmx19 mm SMG
SAF Carbine 1A 9mmx19 mm, Indian made Sterling L2A1 SMG
SAF Carbine 2A1 9mmx19 mm, Silenced Carbine
UZI 9mmx19 mm SMG
[edit] Assault rifles
AK-7, clone of the AK-47
INSAS 5.56mmx45 mm Assault Rifle
Zittara Indian version of the IMI Tavor TAR-21 Israeli Micro-Tavor
TAVOR TAR-21 5.56mmx45 mm, for special forces currently 3070 have been purchased from Israel [1]
AK-101
AK-103
AK47M1 7.62mmx39 mm, all black Bulgarian AK. Most of these have been imported for police and paramilitary forces
East German MPi-KM MPi-KMS72 7.62mmx39 mm
Czech Vz.58 and Vz.58P 7.62mmx39 mm
IMI Galil
M16A2
T91 assault rifle
M4
[edit] Grenades
Multi Mode Grenade Shivalik
[edit] Sniper rifles
Dragunov SVD59 7.62mmx54mmR Sniper Rifle
Mauser SP66 7.62mmx51 mm Sniper Rifle
Heckler & Koch MSG-90 7.62mmx51 mm Sniping Rifle. The H&K PSG-1 sniping rifle serves with the NSG anti-terrorist units while small numbers of the Steyr Mannlicher SSG69 serve with the para-military Border Security Force(BSF)
[edit] Machine guns
MG 1B 7.62mmx51 mm, Indian made Bren- This is currently being retired.
MG 2A1 7.62mmx51 mm, Indian made MAG 58
MG 5A 7.62mmx51 mm This is the Indian manufactured Co-axial MAG 58
MG 6A 7.62mmx51 mm Another Indian version of the MAG58 specifically designed as a tank commanders gun.
5.56mm INSAS LMG
FN-Browning M1919 .30Cal, in very limited quantities
Browning M2 heavy machine gun .50cal, heavy machine gun
7.62mm M60 machine gun
5.56mm IMI Negev light machine gun
12.7mm NSV (machine gun)
14.5mm KPV heavy machine gun
Just like to ask a question; Will this cause any maintenance problems?
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Off-course we have em !
A low weight , low recoil, long range and accurate Under Barrel Grenade Launcher ideal for use with Rifles 5.56 mm and with Rifles AK-47 type.
The device offers an ideal blend of features and ergonomic comfort to the soldier.
FEATURES
1. Can be fitted on Rifles 5.56 mm as well as on Rifles AK-47 type
2. 3-point attachment to Rifle gives rigidity for fitment
3. In-built safety to prevent accidental firing
4. Breech loading enables easy loading and unloading of ammunition
5. Pump action along with conventional extractor makes extraction and ejection for cartridge case easy
6. Location for trigger enables firing for both Rifle and UBGL without change in firing posture
7. Hard anodizing on all aluminium alloy components for wear resistance and for better thermal barrier properties
8. Low recoil ammunition enables shoulder firing
9. Simple and easy operated ladder sight
10. Provision of Beta light source for firing in low light conditions
11. Fires ammunition common with Multi Grenade Launcher
12. Wide choice of ammunition for different roles
13. Available in stand-alone version also
TECHNICAL INFORMATION
Calibre: 40 x 46 mm
Effective Range: 28 to 400 m (approx)
Loading: Breech Loading
Barrel Length: 350 mm
Barrel Rifling: 6 grooves RH
Foresight: Post Type
Back sight: Ladder Sight with 100 m steps
Overall length: 450 mm
Weight of Launcher: 1.5 kg
Muzzle velocity: 70 m/s (at 10 m from ME)
Recoil energy: 17Joule
Safety: In built safety for trigger operation and barrel locking
AMMUNITION
Type of Grenade : HE, HEDP, RP, SMK, TPT
Length of complete round : 103 mm
Length of projectile : 82 mm
Fuze Arming : 9 to 28 m
Lethal Radius : 5 m
Mass
- Complete round :230 gm
- Projectile :180 gm
- Fragment :120 mg
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Vidhwansak - anti-materiel rifle 
Vidhwansak ("The Destroyer") is an Indian developed multi-caliber anti-materiel rifle (AMR) or large-caliber sniper rifle manufactured by Ordnance Factory, Tiruchirapalli. It can be used in the anti-materiel role for destroying enemy bunkers, lightly armoured vehicles, radar systems, communication equipment, parked aircraft, fuel storage facilities, etc. It is also effective in long range sniping, counter sniping and ordnance disposal (shooting explosive ordnance from a safe distance) roles.
The Vidhwansak, which costs Rs 10 lakh (USD 20,000) is much cheaper than comparable foreign alternatives such as the Denel NTW-20 AMR, which costs Rs 23 lakhs (USD 45,000).[4] It also supports multiple calibers and fires 12.7mm, 14.5mm and 20mm rounds compared to dual calibers supported by the NTW-20.
20 mm (blue tipped) with .50 BMG rounds, golf ball, stick of RAM.
The barrel along with the receiver recoil inside the chassis frame against a damping system. The rifle is fed from a detachable box magazine, that is inserted from the left side. The rifle can be quickly disassembled and carried in two man-portable packs, each weighting about 12 - 15 kg.
The rifle has an effective range of 1800 m (1300 m for the 20 mm version), while shots can be achieved even up to 2000 m. The rifle is magazine fed, and reloaded through manual bolt action.
A muzzle brake is fitted on the end of the barrel which absorbs an estimated 50%-60% of recoil. This is further supplemented by a buffered slide in the receiver.
Vidhwansak ("The Destroyer") is an Indian developed multi-caliber anti-materiel rifle (AMR) or large-caliber sniper rifle manufactured by Ordnance Factory, Tiruchirapalli. It can be used in the anti-materiel role for destroying enemy bunkers, lightly armoured vehicles, radar systems, communication equipment, parked aircraft, fuel storage facilities, etc. It is also effective in long range sniping, counter sniping and ordnance disposal (shooting explosive ordnance from a safe distance) roles.
The Vidhwansak, which costs Rs 10 lakh (USD 20,000) is much cheaper than comparable foreign alternatives such as the Denel NTW-20 AMR, which costs Rs 23 lakhs (USD 45,000).[4] It also supports multiple calibers and fires 12.7mm, 14.5mm and 20mm rounds compared to dual calibers supported by the NTW-20.
20 mm (blue tipped) with .50 BMG rounds, golf ball, stick of RAM.
The barrel along with the receiver recoil inside the chassis frame against a damping system. The rifle is fed from a detachable box magazine, that is inserted from the left side. The rifle can be quickly disassembled and carried in two man-portable packs, each weighting about 12 - 15 kg.
The rifle has an effective range of 1800 m (1300 m for the 20 mm version), while shots can be achieved even up to 2000 m. The rifle is magazine fed, and reloaded through manual bolt action.
A muzzle brake is fitted on the end of the barrel which absorbs an estimated 50%-60% of recoil. This is further supplemented by a buffered slide in the receiver.
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Whats the purpose of the RAM in this Pic i wonder.Vidhwansak - anti-materiel rifle
Vidhwansak ("The Destroyer") is an Indian developed multi-caliber anti-materiel rifle (AMR) or large-caliber sniper rifle manufactured by Ordnance Factory, Tiruchirapalli. It can be used in the anti-materiel role for destroying enemy bunkers, lightly armoured vehicles, radar systems, communication equipment, parked aircraft, fuel storage facilities, etc. It is also effective in long range sniping, counter sniping and ordnance disposal (shooting explosive ordnance from a safe distance) roles.
The Vidhwansak, which costs Rs 10 lakh (USD 20,000) is much cheaper than comparable foreign alternatives such as the Denel NTW-20 AMR, which costs Rs 23 lakhs (USD 45,000).[4] It also supports multiple calibers and fires 12.7mm, 14.5mm and 20mm rounds compared to dual calibers supported by the NTW-20.
20 mm (blue tipped) with .50 BMG rounds, golf ball, stick of RAM.
The barrel along with the receiver recoil inside the chassis frame against a damping system. The rifle is fed from a detachable box magazine, that is inserted from the left side. The rifle can be quickly disassembled and carried in two man-portable packs, each weighting about 12 - 15 kg.
The rifle has an effective range of 1800 m (1300 m for the 20 mm version), while shots can be achieved even up to 2000 m. The rifle is magazine fed, and reloaded through manual bolt action.
A muzzle brake is fitted on the end of the barrel which absorbs an estimated 50%-60% of recoil. This is further supplemented by a buffered slide in the receiver.
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Whats the purpose of the RAM in this Pic i wonder.
Even i was wondering the same.............
May be comparison of size.
Beck bhaiya will clear it for us.
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