Indian army opens fire (LOC) one lady shaheed nine civilians injured

[Tom M]

how come every time India violates the cease fire, they end up killing civilians?
At least when pakistan violates it, we kill soldiers

Somethings are always better kept under the carpet I guess.

 

[Novice09]

What is it with you people and the past. All you do is talk about past this and past that.
More Mo the present my friend......maybe then you will also get a toilet

History is a good teacher...

I was waiting for the KHAIRAT from RSA and CHINA... or may be a bailout package from IMF or anywhere... to "get a TOILET"...

 

[Darwin]

Don't worry just a rotation taking place at the LOC. Boys are testing the weapons. happens all the time.

 

[GHALIB]

Don't worry, they left their mark with all the Indian soldiers they killed and by taking Point 5353, which remains under our control and is the dominating feature in Kargil.



Two of them won Nishan-e-Haider so shut your mouth.

How can they win nisan e haider when no troops were there ?

Yep my younger brother a civil engineer is stuck near a town in athmaqam, he said indians are firing on civilians and the road is too close to the army checkposts. He doesnt want to risk traveling on road until situation stabalizes. He said he heard gunfire and explosions for 1 hour yesterday. Thankfully he is a bit far from line of sight.

I have suggested to him stay put don't travel it seems indians got a good beating by our army and they want to gush out their anger at any soft targets. I guess they dont care for human lives as much as we pakistaniz do.



Pakistan uses sniper fire and high precision missiles.
Indian army uses russian 1970's tech mortars that sometimes land in front of their own faces. Mortars are not precise also their area of explosion impact is very wide as compared to anti tank missiles or silver sniper bullets.

I have seen photos of the injured its mortar rounds that throw out spikes in all directions . those spikes hit anyone soldier or civilian . sniper shots only hit 1 inch if enemy soldiers head regardless if he is wearing a helmet or not. These bullets pakistanjz use now are armor piercing sniprr rounds even tanks cant keep those indian men safe.

I just want them to leave civilian areas alone.. For sake of my actual brother and other kashmiri brothers indirect ones. This is very low of indian soliders to target civilian area.

Praying for safety of your brother.
Tell him not to go near loc ,

 

[Novice09]

How can they win nisan e haider when no troops were there ?


,

After 10years...

Because of PROFESSIONALISM... we know how to respect the fallen HEROES...

 

[Foxtrot Delta]

How can they win nisan e haider when no troops were there ?





Praying for safety of your brother.
Tell him not to go near loc ,

Yea thats what every kashmiri is doing right now after the death if those 9 people mostly women in that town. Everyone is avoiding loc. The problem is the evacuarion route road had one spot which depends on indian control. They shoot at vehicles from that vantage point when they want to shoot at vehicles. So its better for him to stay out or move west till the roads last then mountains and snow starts.... I wish i was in his place and he in my place infront of this burning gas heater in this warm room playing takken 7 online or fortnite like we usually do on weekends.

May Allah protect him and keep him safe And others too ameen. Thanks for the prayers

Conflict..... War... Are the Scum of earth.

 

[GHALIB]

After 10years...

Because of PROFESSIONALISM... we know how to respect the fallen HEROES...

They were civilians as usual .

 

[Foxtrot Delta]

Don't worry just a rotation taking place at the LOC. Boys are testing the weapons. happens all the time.

9 civilians killed in 30 minutes. God Knows how many indian soliders and pakistaniz died before indians started shelling civilian towns . usually indin boys when they see their close friends among soldiers die they start pounding civilians as revenge. Thats what local villegers say.

Thats not a mere rotation. Indians got hurt. They got hurt real bad . hence the violence on civilians.

 

[GHALIB]

Yea thats what every kashmiri is doing right now after the death if those 9 people mostly women in that town. Everyone is avoiding loc. The problem is the evacuarion route road had one spot which depends on indian control. They shoot at vehicles from that vantage point when they want to shoot at vehicles. So its better for him to stay out or move west till the roads last then mountains and snow starts.... I wish i was in his place and he in my place infront of this burning gas heater in this warm room playing takken 7 online or fortnite like we usually do on weekends.

May Allah protect him and keep him safe And others too ameen. Thanks for the prayers

Conflict..... War... Are the Scum of earth.

Even after 70 years you still plying on that dangerous road ? World's no.1 army should make a safer alternate road for civilians ? We have developed our part of kashmir fully with modern infrastructure.

 

[Foxtrot Delta]

Even after 70 years you still plying on that dangerous road ? World's no.1 army should make a safer alternate road for civilians ? We have developed our part of road .

Yea that road was made by the army

Even after 70 years you still plying on that dangerous road ? World's no.1 army should make a safer alternate road for civilians ? We have developed our part of kashmir fully with modern infrastructure.

Its a narrow strip there is no alternate route sadly only chinese could build roads that high and cut maintains.. The existing road was made by the army its a very good quality road but at one point it comes diretly infront of the dotted line on gps and there are 3 check posts directed at it. They oversee that part. So.... Yea thats what i collect from google earth. Im sure there are slow paced smaller routes back south but as far as i know its better to stay away from that road as it is overlooked by both armies.

Its sad to see in 2019 people of pakistan and india face problems the same ones they had 70 years ago. Or the problems similar to freaking horror towns of syria and iraq. Pakistan and india could have done better... Its a pitty we can fight destroy kill but we cant love, forgive or build. Eithe of us are same....

 

[GHALIB]

Yea that road was made by the army


Its a narrow strip there is no alternate route sadly only chinese could build roads that high and cut maintains.. The existing road was made by the army its a very good quality road but at one point it comes diretly infront of the dotted line on gps and there are 3 check posts directed at it. They oversee that part. So.... Yea thats what i collect from google earth. Im sure there are slow paced smaller routes back south but as far as i know its better to stay away from that road as it is overlooked by both armies.

Its sad to see in 2019 people of pakistan and india face problems the same ones they had 70 years ago. Or the problems similar to freaking horror towns of syria and iraq. Pakistan and india could have done better... Its a pitty we can fight destroy kill but we cant love, forgive or build. Eithe of us are same....

You look to be a good pakistani , let us hope peace prevails between us .

 

[Darwin]

9 civilians killed in 30 minutes. God Knows how many indian soliders and pakistaniz died before indians started shelling civilian towns . usually indin boys when they see their close friends among soldiers die they start pounding civilians as revenge. Thats what local villegers say.

Thats not a mere rotation. Indians got hurt. They got hurt real bad . hence the violence on civilians.

9 killed ? 1 killed 9 injured as per the op.And its not as if civilians are being targeted.
See below, 2 army men who won Olympic medals in shooting. Indian army has a excellent marksmen training centre.
Do ppl seriously think similar guys are not being used on the LOC against PA ?

“ Lieutenant-Colonel Rajyavardhan Singh Rathore became India’s first ever individual silver medal winner at an Olympic Games. Rathore got second position in the Men’s Double Trap event at Athens 2004.“
“shooter Vijay Kumar London Olympics - He got India its second medal in the men’s 25m Rapid Fire Pistol. Kumar won the silver with a score of 30 in the final.“

 

[Foxtrot Delta]

9 killed ? 1 killed 9 injured as per the op.And its not as if civilians are being targeted.
See below, 2 army men who won Olympic medals in shooting. Indian army has a excellent marksmen training centre.
Do ppl seriously think similar guys are not being used on the LOC against PA ?

“ Lieutenant-Colonel Rajyavardhan Singh Rathore became India’s first ever individual silver medal winner at an Olympic Games. Rathore got second position in the Men’s Double Trap event at Athens 2004.“
“shooter Vijay Kumar London Olympics - He got India its second medal in the men’s 25m Rapid Fire Pistol. Kumar won the silver with a score of 30 in the final.“

It was mortar fire no indian snipers ... May be snipers were busy shooting at posts but for 1 hour mortar shells rained in in 1 km radius . around the hospital and university campus area. It was heavy weapons fire. 9 killed had women mostley between ages of 9 to 33. There were two police men killed too.

Also im talking about athmaqam section where my brother works at. The poonch sector is different and is in my east toward a city called bagh.

This is athmuqam 80 kilometers north of my home in muzaffarabad azad kashmir pakistan.

They won the medals with sniper rifles. Mortars have mind of their once airborne.

 

[Darwin]

It was mortar fire no indian snipers ... May be snipers were busy shooting at posts but for 1 hour mortar shells rained in in 1 km radius . around the hospital and university campus area. It was heavy weapons fire. 9 killed had women mostley between ages of 9 to 33. There were two police men killed too.

Also im talking about athmaqam section where my brother works at. The poonch sector is different and is in my east toward a city called bagh.

This is athmuqam 80 kilometers north of my home in muzaffarabad azad kashmir pakistan.

They won the medals with sniper rifles. Mortars have mind of their once airborne.

OK. The 9 deaths are not being covered by media so I asked. Do these areas have army in proximity to the civilians? That could be a reason.
One tactic is to damage communication links on the loc and then wait for the army repair team.

 

[Foxtrot Delta]

OK. The 9 deaths are not being covered by media so I asked. Do these areas have army in proximity to the civilians? That could be a reason.
One tactic is to damage communication links on the loc and then wait for the army repair team.

Im not on the ground zero. Im in my home muzaffarabad city. I just saw whats app messages and images of children with splinters in their foreheads and backs. Not a pretty site.

Anyways pakistan and india should move civilains 20 k away from each line in the long learn. These people are not educated or very bright. I was surprised to see how close those roads and towns are to LOC . its a freakin nightmare for respectable armies... Bo one wants collateral damage they should move out civilian populations away from loc in the long run and then go about playing target practice at each other.

I wonder when will be the day when indian and pakistani men/women will realize enough is enough... I haven't seen any gains by india or pakistan in past 70 years because of kashmir. All iv ever noticed is hurdles, enemity , insecurities and massive damages to lives and property , lives is what i care about. Properties can be made or lost..

I wish and pray that i will one day see peace and trust among people of pakistan. Among all peace in kashmir security where we dont fear for our brothers and sisters lives. If i were there i could care less. I guess the way we are brought up we don't care for our own lives but we die for eachother.